# Let's segregate the races - new liberal solution

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-segregate-the-races-new-liberal-solution/720798>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [May 25, 2015, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-segregate-the-races-new-liberal-solution/720798 "2015-05-25T15:21:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-segregate-the-races-new-liberal-solution/720798/141 "2015-05-27T02:56:55Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> You, like everyone else, believes that discrimination based on skin color is appropriate under some circumstances, and not others.

No, I do not. Discrimination in hiring based on fitness for the job is quite appropriate, though.

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-segregate-the-races-new-liberal-solution/720798/142 "2015-05-27T02:57:55Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> See, I’m being completely sincere here: I cannot believe that you’re not backing down on this. Of fucking course Brad Pitt is not suitable for the role because he’s not black.

Because he’s not fit for the job. Again, discrimination based on fitness for the job is fine.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-segregate-the-races-new-liberal-solution/720798/143 "2015-05-27T03:04:49Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> Because he’s not fit for the job. Again, discrimination based on fitness for the job is fine.

I’ll ask one more time, and understand that I think there’s only one possible answer and that you’re avoiding it on purpose because it requires you to rethink your axiom: **in what way is he not fit for the job**? Please be specific.

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-segregate-the-races-new-liberal-solution/720798/144 "2015-05-27T03:09:52Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> I’ll ask one more time, and understand that I think there’s only one possible answer and that you’re avoiding it on purpose because it requires you to rethink your axiom: **in what way is he not fit for the job**? Please be specific.

He’s not fit for the job because he cannot play a black man. At least not very believably. Is that specific enough for you?

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-segregate-the-races-new-liberal-solution/720798/145 "2015-05-27T06:32:45Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> you don’t get to racially discriminate against innocent people in order to cure some perceived societal ill.

Aaah, well that’s the crux of it, isn’t it. The intent isn’t to discriminate _against_ anyone. No-one’s exactly _hurt_ if some other people get to experience something they don’t - they’re neutrally affected, not negatively affected (speaking of classroom-type field trips etc).

And as for “innocent”…

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-segregate-the-races-new-liberal-solution/720798/146 "2015-05-27T07:26:29Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I don’t see anything inherently wrong with the field trip thing, except it should have been done as an extra-curricular activity not associated with the school. Our public schools should not engage in activities that segregate students by race.

It would annoy _me_ if this happened at my school. Wanting to go because he’s a rocket engineer is at least as valid as wanting to go because he’s a successful black man.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-segregate-the-races-new-liberal-solution/720798/147 "2015-05-27T10:37:58Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> He’s not fit for the job because he cannot play a black man. At least not very believably. Is that specific enough for you?

Of course it’s not specific enough. What is it about him that makes him not able to play a black man very believably?

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-segregate-the-races-new-liberal-solution/720798/148 "2015-05-27T11:34:46Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> It would annoy _me_ if this happened at my school.

Is “annoyed” the same as “hurt”, though? " It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg", sort of thing…

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