# Lets shut down the highway, that'll solve all the problems! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 25, 2018, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577 "2018-07-25T19:24:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/41 "2018-07-26T00:42:15Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > If only well-organized leftists would develop economically instead of demanding others do so, the world would be a more beautiful place. I would settle for you just shutting up. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/42 "2018-07-26T01:56:14Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > It would be better if they tried to accomplish something besides being assholes for the sake of being assholes. Sometimes the only way to get results, is to be an asshole and piss people off. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/43 "2018-07-26T01:58:39Z")
> [@bump](#): > > Independent of whether or not one part of the city is a fetid cesspool or not, I have to feel that these sorts of protests are counterproductive. Rather than make people think “Man, we’re treating the south part of town badly.” while they sit in traffic behind the demonstration, it reinforces negative stereotypes and also hardens hearts against them. I mean, if I had an important event to get to, and this protest snarled traffic everywhere, I’d be pretty turned off to the idea of actually helping them because of their antics. > > TL;DR, it’s essentially a terrorist tactic, and it turns people off to their cause. These protests are terrrorism? You have a really low bar there. For real. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/44 "2018-07-26T02:00:08Z")
> [@beowulff](#): > > I would settle for you just shutting up. Funny. It sure looks like the more liberal progressive places generally do better in EVERY way - culturally, financially, industrially, “humanitarianly”, EVERY way. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/45 "2018-07-26T02:21:46Z")
You just have to remember there are a lot of people who value order much more than they do justice. The point of a protest is to piss you off, to make you have to pay attention. Name a successful protest that never inconvenienced anyone. Maybe if you weren’t such an asshole that you think these parts of the city are “cesspools,” they wouldn’t have to add a slight inconvenience to your middle class life. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/46 "2018-07-26T03:09:27Z")
> [@beowulff](#): > > I would settle for you just shutting up. No your desire to control is insatiable. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/47 "2018-07-26T03:38:53Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > your desire to control is insatiable title of your sex tape ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/48 "2018-07-26T03:43:05Z")
So is anyone okay with protestors purposely blocking ambulances, fire trucks, and police from responding to emergencies, or preventing possibly critically ill patients from getting to the hospital? How would you feel if that was your family member or loved one? This is why blocking roads and intersections is idiotic. [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=msO\_r73wJ1o](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=msO_r73wJ1o) ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/49 "2018-07-26T03:58:21Z")
> [@pool](#): > > So is anyone okay with protestors purposely blocking ambulances, fire trucks, and police from responding to emergencies, or preventing possibly critically ill patients from getting to the hospital? Seriously? You’re asking this like it’s a real question? Make your best guess, chucklefuck. ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/50 "2018-07-26T04:01:46Z")
> [@pool](#): > > So is anyone okay with protestors purposely blocking ambulances, fire trucks, and police from responding to emergencies, or preventing possibly critically ill patients from getting to the hospital? How would you feel if that was your family member or loved one? This is why blocking roads and intersections is idiotic. > > [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=msO\_r73wJ1o](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=msO_r73wJ1o) Well what do ambulances, fire trucks, and police do when construction shuts down a major road for days or even weeks? This is a planned and pre-announced event, for one day. I am confident our first responders are capable of adjusting to a known street closure and finding the best possible route. What are your thoughts on freight trains that stop and just sit there shutting down roads for sometimes hours, are you equally concerned about that when it comes to ambulances etc? Since that is impossible to plan for that seems like a much greater concern. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/51 "2018-07-26T04:38:05Z")
Also, is the distribution of first response emergency services and facilities that screwed up in Chicago that unimpeded access to Lake Shore Drive is usually a critical need? Serious question. ‘Cos the Santa Ana Freeway is a bottleneck in Los Angeles, but folks in downtown L.A. don’t typically need hospital services in the City of Commerce. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/52 "2018-07-26T04:50:20Z")
> [@bump](#): > > Independent of whether or not one part of the city is a fetid cesspool or not, I have to feel that these sorts of protests are counterproductive. Rather than make people think “Man, we’re treating the south part of town badly.” while they sit in traffic behind the demonstration, it reinforces negative stereotypes and also hardens hearts against them. I mean, if I had an important event to get to, and this protest snarled traffic everywhere, I’d be pretty turned off to the idea of actually helping them because of their antics. Or to put it more succintly: “All press is really NOT good press.” I’m ambivalent myself. I mean, maybe sometimes it is. > [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > How, specifically, were you helping them prior to their “antics”? Prolly praying. > [@BigT](#): > > You just have to remember there are a lot of people who value order much more than they do justice. Shit, there are a lot of people who value the thinnest veneer of “order”, “peace” " and “patriotism” over justice > [@WillFarnaby](#): > > No your desire to control is insatiable. Um, I’m not quite sure why but after reading what seemed to be an innocuous, if not a bit self-satisfied bit of throw-away brain noise, I now dont think I feel comfortable messageboarding with you. You seem to REALLY like usingvsexy language to talk politics huh?. Your language is becoming theatrical. I’d hate to see wtf is going on in the world at the other end of that phone call. Its like not one damn person out of all, idk, 20? of you can even keep yourself from getting evicted. Its funny. Very. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/53 "2018-07-26T11:57:39Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Dr. King, you say? The OP has some thoughts about him, certainly. They can be found in this thread he started a few days prior to Martin Luther King Jr. Day 2015. > > [Let's pit Martin Luther King! - The BBQ Pit - Straight Dope Message Board](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=746440) … Which in turn brought me to this excellent example of moral fiber: > [@Let's pit Martin Luther King!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-pit-martin-luther-king/710016/10): > > The greatest moral victory of the 20th century was the Allies defeating the Axis powers. I’d support an FDR holiday, hopefully without the political correct wheelchair. (“Politically Correct Wheelchair” would make an excellent band name or Tumblr blog, by the way.) ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/54 "2018-07-26T12:40:32Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > It would be better if they tried to accomplish something besides being assholes for the sake of being assholes. Well, to be fair, they’re not doing it just to be assholes. It’s just easier than working. Of course, if they are dumb enough to call for the resignation of the police chief because that dumbass Harith Augustus tries to pull a gun on police and gets his silly self shot, they are probably too dumb to find any job that doesn’t involve saying “you want fries with that?” Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/55 "2018-07-26T12:48:10Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > It would be better if they tried to accomplish something besides being assholes for the sake of being assholes. They’re engaged in a protest. By defifuckingnition they’re doing it for the sake of accomplishing something, genius. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/56 "2018-07-26T13:01:17Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Hear, hear. Yeah, no shit. Based on his contempt for MLK Jr, insistence on praising only the white people involved for the Civil Rights Act, his irrational hatred of AOC, and this thread, I’d say it’s reasonable to suspect that dale has some issues with people who aren’t white. Look within yourself, dale. Such bias and bigotry can be fixed, if you’re willing to consider that you may have a problem. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/57 "2018-07-26T13:21:29Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Yeah, no shit. Based on his contempt for MLK Jr, insistence on praising only the white people involved for the Civil Rights Act, his irrational hatred of AOC, and this thread, I’d say it’s reasonable to suspect that dale has some issues with people who aren’t white. > > Look within yourself, dale. Such bias and bigotry can be fixed, if you’re willing to consider that you may have a problem. C’mon now, don’t forget his hatred of women! ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/58 "2018-07-26T13:42:33Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Also, is the distribution of first response emergency services and facilities that screwed up in Chicago that unimpeded access to Lake Shore Drive is usually a critical need? > > Serious question. ‘Cos the Santa Ana Freeway is a bottleneck in Los Angeles, but folks in downtown L.A. don’t typically need hospital services in the City of Commerce. The 405 is fucked up again, We’re all doomed. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/59 "2018-07-26T14:13:15Z")
Remember that time that asshole Gandhi blocked Marine Drive for hours. Boy, how bad did that turn public opinion against his cause? Bombay traffic was so bad that day the whole city decided it wanted to stay British. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2018, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/60 "2018-07-26T14:20:47Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Remember that time that asshole Gandhi blocked Marine Drive for hours. Boy, how bad did that turn public opinion against his cause? Bombay traffic was so bad that day the whole city decided it wanted to stay British. Just ask bump: Gandhi was a terrorist. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577.md?page=4)