# Lets shut down the highway, that'll solve all the problems!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 25, 2018, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577 "2018-07-25T19:24:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/161 "2018-07-27T21:28:57Z")

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> **[Plane makes emergency landing on Lake Shore Drive](https://wgntv.com/news/plane-makes-emergency-landing-on-lake-shore-drive/)**
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> CHICAGO — A plane made an emergency landing on Lake Shore Drive near 38th Street on Friday afternoon. In a mayday call to a tower at Chicago Midway International Airport, the pilot can be heard say…

Plane lands on Lake Shore Drive today fucking up south side traffic and causing it to be rerouted. Unhinged racists vow to now include “pilots in trouble” to the list of people they would TOTALLY be upset with and probably not support, just like they haven’t supported so far in their lives.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/162 "2018-07-27T21:43:17Z")

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The idea, or one of them, behind disruptive protests, is to show the country that things that harm the least privileged among us can also affect the comfortable.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/163 "2018-07-27T22:35:31Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> [https://wgntv.com/2018/07/27/plane-makes-emergency-landing-on-lake-shore-drive/](https://wgntv.com/2018/07/27/plane-makes-emergency-landing-on-lake-shore-drive/)
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> Plane lands on Lake Shore Drive today fucking up south side traffic and causing it to be rerouted. Unhinged racists vow to now include “pilots in trouble” to the list of people they would TOTALLY be upset with and probably not support, just like they haven’t supported so far in their lives.

Don’t forget [cyclists](https://bikethedrive.org/routeandtiming)  
[and runners](https://www.soldierfield10.com/road-closures)  
[and bridges](https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/bridge-installation-scheduled-to-shut-down-lake-shore-drive-near-41st-street/)  
[and winter](https://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/03/us/03chicago.html)

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/164 "2018-07-27T22:49:02Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> …[  
> [URL=“https://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/03/us/03chicago.html”]and winter](https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/bridge-installation-scheduled-to-shut-down-lake-shore-drive-near-41st-street/)

Oh yeah, that was a fucked up one!

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2018, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/165 "2018-07-27T23:02:04Z")

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Huh, apparently advocating outright murder of protesters is AOK here. Who knew.

As a quick aside… Anyone saying, “Man, I would have totally been on board back when MLK was around, but…” Cut the shit. Stop lying to yourself to make yourself feel better. What, do you think those people back then were moral monsters who couldn’t exist now? No. It’s just that back then, King wasn’t _obviously right_. The same people who are decrying this shit as “too radical” would have been decrying the bus boycott, the marches, and everything else as “too radical”. Give it a rest.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2018, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/166 "2018-07-28T00:09:00Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Huh, apparently advocating outright murder of protesters is AOK here. Who knew.

I mean, it’s a stupid, shitty joke Shodan made, evidence of his character, but it didn’t read to me like actual advocacy of murder.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2018, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/167 "2018-07-28T08:20:42Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Huh, apparently advocating outright murder of protesters is AOK here. Who knew.
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> As a quick aside… Anyone saying, “Man, I would have totally been on board back when MLK was around, but…” Cut the shit. Stop lying to yourself to make yourself feel better. What, do you think those people back then were moral monsters who couldn’t exist now? No. It’s just that back then, King wasn’t _obviously right_. The same people who are decrying this shit as “too radical” would have been decrying the bus boycott, the marches, and everything else as “too radical”. Give it a rest.

[Relevant? You decide.](http://nonadventures.com/2015/06/13/march-of-times/)

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2018, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/168 "2018-07-28T08:25:22Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> [Relevant? You decide.](http://nonadventures.com/2015/06/13/march-of-times/)

Oh definitely.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2018, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/169 "2018-08-02T23:01:23Z")

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Lake Shore Drive is now re-open after the protests.  
Let’s take a look at the rush hour traffic:  
[https://imgur.com/5TwVRZz](https://imgur.com/5TwVRZz)

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2018, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/170 "2018-08-02T23:03:32Z")

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The march has now reached Wrigley Field. Cubs fans are watching from the stadium. Police of all sort - on foot, on bicycle, and on horses - are deployed to maintain order.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2018, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/171 "2018-08-02T23:28:48Z")

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I counted about 100 of these clowns, some of them marching for other causes. It was extremely unorganized, I think they were trying to take up as much space as possible, but this caused them to just be shouting out random slogans.

Glad to see it was a miserable failure. Since some of the protestors wanted, ‘No police! No Prisons!’ I’ll be encouraging the mayor and my alderman to reallocate officers from the South and West sides to the north side of the city.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/172 "2018-08-03T00:21:01Z")

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Some people want to raise their fists for social justice. Others just want to be a monkey’s paw.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/173 "2018-08-03T00:32:59Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> … I’ll be encouraging the mayor and my alderman to reallocate officers from the South and West sides to the north side of the city.

You tell 'em angry man! I’m sure they’ll jump right on your suggestion! But why stop there? Tell them that they can take their stinking Martin Luther King Jr. with them, too! Fuckin doofus.

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**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/174 "2018-08-03T02:48:50Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> If LSD is a parking lot you could try, oh, I don’t know - Sheridan, Clark, Western? There are numerous north-south streets in Chicago that can be used as alternates. Sure, the speed limit is low, but at least they’re moving.

Or, hey, go crazy - take public transportation once in a while.

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**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/175 "2018-08-03T03:22:08Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> The point of a protest is to piss you off, to make you have to pay attention. Name a successful protest that never inconvenienced anyone.

I think the football players taking a knee is a good example of a successful protest that doesn’t inconvenience anyone. It’s not like they’re refusing to play. They’re not disrupting the game. But they definitely got people talking and paying attention, which was their goal, so I’d say it was a success.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/176 "2018-08-03T03:26:25Z")

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I’ve seen more twenty somethings crossing the street five minutes ago after Lollapalooza closed than protestors that were so happy that they, ‘Shut it down.’

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/177 "2018-08-03T13:52:20Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> Lake Shore Drive is now re-open after the protests.  
> Let’s take a look at the rush hour traffic:  
> [https://imgur.com/5TwVRZz](https://imgur.com/5TwVRZz)

I see orange on an off-ramp. TERRORISTS!

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/178 "2018-08-03T13:53:51Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> I’ve seen more twenty somethings crossing the street five minutes ago after Lollapalooza closed than protestors that were so happy that they, ‘Shut it down.’

A fair criticism of a protest is that it didn’t work. (Another fair criticism of a protest, of course, is that it’s protesting something that doesn’t need to be protested).

A shitty criticism of a protest is that it might inconvenience your privileged ass.

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**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/179 "2018-08-03T14:14:04Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> I’ve seen more twenty somethings crossing the street five minutes ago after Lollapalooza closed than protestors that were so happy that they, ‘Shut it down.’

Ok so are you going to stop whining and bitching about it then?

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**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-shut-down-the-highway-thatll-solve-all-the-problems/818577/180 "2018-08-03T14:24:35Z")

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And don’t you feel silly about all of your histrionics over this march now?

I’m guessing probably not.

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