OK.
Who here is arguing otherwise?
What about the fact that the US media was very reluctant to ever label the IRA as terrorists? That can’t really be denied.
the useful thing about using terms like ‘terrorist’ is they’re inherently judgmental and serve the cause. There was a point in Iraq where, taking both invaders and indigenous into account, about 99% of everyone there was a ‘terrorist’.
Totally helpful and constructive: solved a whole bunch of issues.
Fwiw, I’ from London and I would never use that term about the IRA. Its just mind numbingly infantile.
It’s two miles from here. As above. Infantile. In fact I’d go as far as to say things got to that stage exactly because of dehumanising strategies like pejorative name calling. Playground stuff. Intellectual gibberish.
So it wasn’t done by the IRA or it wasn’t an act of terrorism? which is infantile?
You nailed the tone perfectly.
Horseshit.
When have atrocities committed by the PFLP been classified as “Islamist terrorism”?
Similarly, all the guerrillas who carried out the 1972 Munich operation were Muslim, or at least of Muslim descent, but I don’t remember any referred to as “Muslim terrorists”. Instead they were called Palestinian terrorists.
You seem awfully sure of yourself when it comes to events you knew so little about that you foolishly bragged you could find statements by IRA leaders using religious justifications for their violence.
This despite the fact that they were a Marxist group.
Are you really sure you know enough about the situation to make such strong statements?
Do you have any knowledge about it beyond a couple of wiki articles you scanned?
It’s a simple world of cowboys and injuns and the Lord will ensure the moral prevail. Etc.
The more I see about the Planned Parenthood shooter the more he looks like a nutjob who went over the edge rather than a terrorist.
On the lighter side:
Climate Change is a form of terror
Yes. They went there.
Oh okay, ‘terrorism’ is the rational persons choice for murder.
Oh okay. Every murder is terrorism.
Unless they’re a nutjob.
You probably don’t agree with me, but my definition of terrorism (the attempt to achieve political goals through violence against civilians) is very similar to that used by the U.S. Code Tittle 22 Chapter 38, Section 2656f(d):
I wouldn’t discount the political motive just because a person is nuts. Nutty people can be politically motivated, too. In the end, though, it’s all criminal, so whether we call it “terrorism” or not is, to a certain extant, semantic. I know that laws have been modified to add penalties when “terrorism” is involved, but it wouldn’t bother me at all if we dropped that.
Well it’s not that important to me if people want to call him a terrorist, it just seems to me this guy was just as likely to shoot up some office or school as Planned Parenthood. He advised a neighbor to put in a metal roof to stop government spying. He hid food in the woods.The FBI isn’t likely to find out how he was “radicalized”. Nobody who knew said he had any strong political or religious views (other than hating government spying on him). So I just don’t think it’s a useful term to describe him.
The OP did not state or imply whether the clinic shooting or Islamic terrorism is a greater threat, just that the clinic shooting was an act of terrorism as much as an Islamic attack. I don’t see a logical argument contradicting that.
I stated that I am at more risk for an attack at a U.S. medical facility by a radical Christian terrorist than an Islamic terrorist, and I stand by that.
I don’t know that more people have died from Islamic than Christian violence, but will read any reputable source that provides the historical body count for each with great interest.
Other than using the phrase" No more baby parts".
That’s hilarious.
“The United States is engaging in terrorism!”
“No, we’re not. Look it up!”
“It’s premeditated, politically-motivated violence against noncombatant targets!”
“Sure, but we’re neither subnational nor clandestine.”
“Er – what?”
“When we’re out to influence an audience by terrorizing folks, we say we’re a nation.”
“That doesn’t…”
“USA! USA! As long as we do that chant, it can’t be terrorism!”