# Let's talk about etv78 **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [September 13, 2012, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622 "2012-09-13T18:57:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/21 "2012-09-13T20:13:29Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I’m not giving **Ambivalid** any shit, and I don’t think **TubaDiva** was either. The point here is twofold: the private message doesn’t necessarily mean anything, and this is a forum for discussing the rules and how situations like this should be handled, so it’s not the place to ‘make a case’ that **etv78** might be a troll. So this thread should not go in that direction. What direction should it go in? Should it get moved? Closed? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/22 "2012-09-13T20:17:57Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > What direction should it go in? We can talk about what the rules say about this kind of thing, what people think the rules _should_ say, why we’re not warning **etv78** and whether or not that’s appropriate, whether or not the MPSIMS thread was trolling, and other stuff related to rules and moderation. But as much as I enjoyed the whole **umkay** investigation, ATMB isn’t the place to put **etv78** through the wringer. Make sense? ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/23 "2012-09-13T20:18:18Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I’m not giving **Ambivalid** any shit, and I don’t think **TubaDiva** was either. Okay, if you guy’s aren’t you aren’t. I just don’t think he was particulary out of line. And as others have said it’s not really clear where such an observation should be placed. Carry on. ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/24 "2012-09-13T20:37:04Z")
I think he should have stayed with **erictelevision**. That was a snappier nape. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/25 "2012-09-13T21:23:54Z")
IMO, if you purposefully troll other boards, come here and admit it, then effectively drag the external trolling here by having someone come to bitch at you - you deserve at least a warning here. What would have happened if this mod from another board had read that “bragging” thread as if this board was complicit, and rallied the troops to come over and spam/troll/annoy this board? IMO, if you want to troll other places and talk about it here, fine, you should probably talk about your lame pursuits elsewhere, but whatever. But if your trolling endeavors should happen to follow you back here for any reason, be prepared to face the consequences. It’s nothing personal against **etv** one way or the other, I just think it makes sense to treat _admitted_ (or proven) infractions elsewhere as infractions here _if_ they should happen to follow you back here. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/26 "2012-09-13T21:37:17Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > What would have happened if this mod from another board had read that “bragging” thread as if this board was complicit, and rallied the troops to come over and spam/troll/annoy this board? Then we might’ve had a board war on our hands and would’ve probably had to talk down or warn or ban those people. That’s one reason among many that this was a stupid and thoughtless thing to do. > [@](#): > > I just think it makes sense to treat _admitted_ (or proven) infractions elsewhere as infractions here _if_ they should happen to follow you back here. Unfortunately the implications of this can become kind of unwieldy, and it does amount to warning a poster for something someone else did. The extent of the repercussions of **etv78** trolling other boards was one person coming here to yell at **etv78**. It would have been a problem if 20 people had done it, but since it was only one it sounds more like just deserts. ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/27 "2012-09-13T21:40:08Z")
If you have an issue with etv78, you need to start a Pit thread. We cannot police what people do – or claim to do – in places that we don’t moderate. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/28 "2012-09-13T21:41:19Z")
You wouldn’t believe how gullible those maroons are on all those other boards I troll… they’re definitely not savvy and smart like everyone here. I even have them believing I troll _this_ board. Can you imagine? What a bunch of yokels! ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/29 "2012-09-13T21:43:52Z")
Just watch him, **Tuba**. That’s all I ask. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/30 "2012-09-13T21:47:50Z")
Watch that turnip guy. too. He seems a bit shifty eyed to me. ---
**Author:** ![SubaRhubarb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@SubaRhubarb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SubaRhubarb)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/31 "2012-09-13T22:06:49Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > I’ve organized Dopefests in Boston, met several in Dopers in person. So I AM who I say I am. If I so offend you, do put me on ignore. So you are a married pregnant male lesbian father of 3 with a wife with a large vagina? Just making sure we all get to know the real you here. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/32 "2012-09-13T22:07:22Z")
In case anyone is interested I saw him at a Boston Dopefest and he was in a wheelchair. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/33 "2012-09-13T22:30:12Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > In case anyone is interested I saw him at a Boston Dopefest and he was in a wheelchair. But was he pregnant? And how large was his wife’s vagina? ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/34 "2012-09-13T22:56:21Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > That’s one reason among many that this was a stupid and thoughtless thing to do. > [@TubaDiva](#): > > If you have an issue with etv78, you need to start a Pit thread. This was directed at **Marley** , correct? ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/35 "2012-09-13T23:09:31Z")
Wait a sec… > [@Marley23](#): > > Unfortunately the implications of this can become kind of unwieldy, **and it does amount to warning a poster for something someone else did.** (bolding mine) Who’s the “someone else?” He admitted he did these things. His identity is not in question. He’s not a sock. There is no one else using the **etv78** username. Your math doesn’t wash here. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/36 "2012-09-13T23:21:47Z")
Wait, let’s go back to this board war thing. I want a board war! I know we can win! We can sic **BearNenno** on whatever other board there is and be assured of victory, as long as we keep **DerThris** tied up in the back room. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/37 "2012-09-13T23:27:17Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > Wait a sec…(bolding mine) Who’s the “someone else?” He admitted he did these things. The “someone else” is the person (people) that’d pour over during a board war. If I signed up for a Pepsi forum using the same username I have here and posted “Coke is better!” and a bunch of people came chasing me back to the Dope and I was warned for it I would be getting a warning because of the actions of other people. And they’ve already said they shouldn’t and won’t moderate people based on what they do in places outside their jurisdiction (a position I agree with). ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/38 "2012-09-13T23:31:42Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Could some of those Dopers verify? I have and I can. :dubious: I can also verify that **etv78** is a very pleasant, engaging young man in person, and I’m sure you’d like him. And yes, I hear you say “Consider the source”. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/39 "2012-09-14T00:12:17Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > The “someone else” is the person (people) that’d pour over during a board war. If I signed up for a Pepsi forum using the same username I have here and posted “Coke is better!” and a bunch of people came chasing me back to the Dope and I was warned for it I would be getting a warning because of the actions of other people. And they’ve already said they shouldn’t and won’t moderate people based on what they do in places outside their jurisdiction (a position I agree with). I don’t buy that. **Marley** said “it does amount to warning a poster for something someone else did.” He said “did” not “will”. I know talking about tenses may seem pedantic, but I have a point here. There is zero danger of us getting in a board war here. I just don’t see that happening. The mod that came in was warning _us_ about the guy. He’s like an INTERPOL agent warning us of a known criminal. Both boards are fully aware that **etv** is acting alone. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/40 "2012-09-14T00:15:21Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > I don’t buy that. **Marley** said “it does amount to warning a poster for something someone else did.” He said “did” not “will”. > > I know talking about tenses may seem pedantic, but I have a point here. There is zero danger of us getting in a board war here. I just don’t see that happening. The mod that came in was warning _us_ about the guy. He’s like an INTERPOL agent warning us of a known criminal. I really don’t know what you’re talking about. I know about the mod from the other board, but I don’t get the point you’re trying to make. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622.md?page=3)