# Let's talk about etv78

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [September 13, 2012, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622 "2012-09-13T18:57:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/41 "2012-09-14T00:17:59Z")

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He may be in a wheelchair, and he may look like a guy, but that doesn’t mean he’s not a butch lesbian.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/42 "2012-09-14T00:18:29Z")

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**Clockwork** , you missed my edit. **etv78** is acting alone.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/43 "2012-09-14T00:24:55Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> **Clockwork** , you missed my edit. **etv78** is acting alone.

I know? 😕

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/44 "2012-09-14T00:28:44Z")

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I’m posting from a grassy knoll.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/45 "2012-09-14T00:33:44Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> 😕

Let me explain it simply.

There is no chance of a board war. We have a guy that acted independently and trolled another board. ONE guy. We know that, the mod from the other board knows that. There is no “somebody else”. It’s all **etv78**.

Nobody else. Just him.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/46 "2012-09-14T00:36:30Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> Let me explain it simply.
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> There is no chance of a board war. We have a guy that acted independently and trolled another board. ONE guy. We know that, the mod from the other board knows that. There is no “somebody else”. It’s all **etv78**.
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> Nobody else. Just him.

**Marley** was talking about a hypothetical situation in which **etv78** caused a board war. I’m perfectly aware, as I’m overwhelmingly sure is **Marley** , that there isn’t going to be a board war and that **etv78** was acting alone.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/47 "2012-09-14T00:40:52Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> I have and I can. :dubious:
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> I can also verify that **etv78** is a very pleasant, engaging young man in person, and I’m sure you’d like him.
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> And yes, I hear you say “Consider the source”. 😉

Ok, 'nuff for me.

One question though; why the “dubious” face? 😕

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/48 "2012-09-14T00:41:41Z")

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> [@Sicks\_Ate](#):
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> I think the point is that if **etv78** _is_ handicapped, then why would he need to do research about what it’s like to be handicapped..

I can’t see how getting further data is not a good idea if you are researching a book.

That aside, Private Messages (IMHO) should be kept private.

Finally, this whole thread is rather “strange”. ATMB is supposed to be about the administration of the board (mainly) and bitching about other posters goes to the Pit. There is nothing said in the original post expressing dissatisfaction about administration.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/49 "2012-09-14T00:45:47Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> **Marley** was talking about a hypothetical situation in which **etv78** caused a board war. I’m perfectly aware, as I’m overwhelmingly sure is **Marley** , that there isn’t going to be a board war and that **etv78** was acting alone.

I get the hypotheticals, but I don’t buy them here. **Marley** is looking at the forest, and I’m trying to point out that the forest is going to stay there - but there’s a tree about to fall on his house.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/50 "2012-09-14T00:59:02Z")

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> [@Cicero](#):
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> Finally, this whole thread is rather “strange”. ATMB is supposed to be about the administration of the board (mainly) and bitching about other posters goes to the Pit.

It’s really not that strange. This thread is about what the administration should do when a poster is a known troll - just not necessarily here. We _know_ the guy is a troll. He said it in his OP. Do we harbor trolls, or not?

Now, as I said earlier, I recommend the mods do nothing - except watch the guy like a hawk.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/51 "2012-09-14T01:01:45Z")

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> [@Cicero](#):
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> Finally, this whole thread is rather “strange”. ATMB is supposed to be about the administration of the board (mainly) and bitching about other posters goes to the Pit. There is nothing said in the original post expressing dissatisfaction about administration.

But thats the way the powers that be want it.

You can bitch a person out in the Pit for doing what you think is stupid thing X…but since it’s not in ATMB its just bitching and or name callling. Or you can complain about action X here in ATMB but you aren’t technically supposed to mention the actual poster that is the reason you are bitching about X in the first place.

Whatcha gonna do?  
Dio milked this “problem” for years

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/52 "2012-09-14T01:03:42Z")

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> [@Cicero](#):
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> Finally, this whole thread is rather “strange”. ATMB is supposed to be about the administration of the board (mainly) and bitching about other posters goes to the Pit. There is nothing said in the original post expressing dissatisfaction about administration.

I agree. **Marley** himself said this is not the appropriate place to put **etv78** through the wringer. How is it this thread hasn’t been closed or moved to the Pit?

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/53 "2012-09-14T01:10:34Z")

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> [@Cicero](#):
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> I can’t see how getting further data is not a good idea if you are researching a book.
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> That aside, Private Messages (IMHO) should be kept private.

I didn’t post the PM, I just vaguely described (to the best of my bad recollection) the general content. The actual PM remained private.

But let me just say, he was actually asking about someone with _spina bifida_. If he has spina bifida himself, WHY would he ever ask another person- who doesn’t even have the condition-(but is simply also handicapped) for information about how that condition affects the daily life of those it afflicts?

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**Author:** ![SubaRhubarb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@SubaRhubarb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SubaRhubarb)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/54 "2012-09-14T01:12:19Z")

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> [@Cicero](#):
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> I can’t see how getting further data is not a good idea if you are researching a book.
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> That aside, Private Messages (IMHO) should be kept private.
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> Finally, this whole thread is rather “strange”. **ATMB is supposed to be about the administration of the board (mainly) and bitching about other posters goes to the Pit.** There is nothing said in the original post expressing dissatisfaction about administration.

Bolding mine.

Is ATMB for that? I have never quite figured out what this forum is for. Bug/ad/malware complaints get joked away, and a lot of the griping about mods ends with “take it to the pit” or a polite version of “fuck off”.

Mods, maybe you should make a sticky about “What ATMB is for”.

It is half toilet, half daycare.

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/55 "2012-09-14T01:13:44Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> Do we harbor trolls, or not?

Of course not. Trolls live under bridges, not in harbors.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/56 "2012-09-14T01:17:48Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> I get the hypotheticals, but I don’t buy them here. **Marley** is looking at the forest, and I’m trying to point out that the forest is going to stay there - but there’s a tree about to fall on his house.

Talking with you I feel like I’m on crazy pills. **Voltaire** was the one advancing that the hypothetical was plausible.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/57 "2012-09-14T01:23:52Z")

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The reason this is in ATMB is the question **auolycus** quoted above. Do we harbor trolls? What should the mods do if someone talks _here_ about troliing _over there_?

I think that’s a good question that deserves to be in ATMB.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/58 "2012-09-14T01:29:14Z")

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Wait until the poster does something actionable? It’s crazy but it just might work.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/59 "2012-09-14T01:41:49Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> Wait until the poster does something actionable? It’s crazy but it just might work.

Where have I heard that before? Oh, right, me:

> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> Like I said in the first sentence of the OP, I don’t know what to think. We have mods from other boards chasing this guy down, but I haven’t personally seen anything here that violates the rules. I’m not asking for any SDMB mod action, but I am suggesting that y’all watch this guy like a hawk.

> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> Just watch him, Tuba. That’s all I ask.

> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> Now, as I said earlier, I recommend the mods do nothing - except watch the guy like a hawk.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-etv78/634622/60 "2012-09-14T01:44:14Z")

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That’s still a hilariously over the top reaction. Why, so the minute he posts about his aircraft hangar of a vagina, he can be banned on the spot? If he loses his cool, the half a day it may take to ban him won’t touch you in the no-no place so relax.

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