# Let's talk about stories you love but never want to see a sequel to. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 21, 2010, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-stories-you-love-but-never-want-to-see-a-sequel-to/564985 "2010-12-21T18:49:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-stories-you-love-but-never-want-to-see-a-sequel-to/564985/21 "2010-12-22T02:53:16Z")
Moby Dick II: This Time It’s Personal Taxi Driver II: Travis Meets the Love Bug ---
**Author:** ![Grayson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c77e96/32.png) [@Grayson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grayson)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-stories-you-love-but-never-want-to-see-a-sequel-to/564985/22 "2010-12-22T03:35:15Z")
Tbh, I really don’t think we need another POTC movie…I love Captain Jack, but the first trilogy was perfect (to me). This fourth one (and any subsequent others) will just feel forced. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-stories-you-love-but-never-want-to-see-a-sequel-to/564985/23 "2010-12-22T04:04:01Z")
I don’t think any movie should be sequeled (unless it is a series\*). In general, the sequel cannot capture what made the original great. There are exceptions, but I prefer to stick with Howard Chaykin’s rule: It’s better to have people begging for more than to have them saying, “why does he continue to drag this out?” **True Grit** , BTW, is a remake, not a sequel. There is usually room for remakes – they have a higher rate of success than sequels. \*A series are multiple films with the same characters, with each film independent and only very slow change over time. Think **The Thin Man** or **James Bond**. A sequel is **Little Fockers**. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Civil\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d78d45/32.png) [@Civil\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Civil_Guy)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-stories-you-love-but-never-want-to-see-a-sequel-to/564985/24 "2010-12-22T04:23:43Z")
Book: Gateway, by Fredrick Pohl. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-stories-you-love-but-never-want-to-see-a-sequel-to/564985/25 "2010-12-22T04:59:25Z")
> [@Civil\_Guy](#): > > Book: Gateway, by Fredrick Pohl. Too late, he wrote a sequel. _Beyond the Blue Event Horizon_ I thought it was quite good. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-stories-you-love-but-never-want-to-see-a-sequel-to/564985/26 "2010-12-22T05:10:16Z")
Bad sequels Brian’s Song II More War and Peace Independence Day II The Wicker Man II (These latter 2, we could have done without the recent versions) ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-stories-you-love-but-never-want-to-see-a-sequel-to/564985/27 "2010-12-22T15:56:26Z")
> [@Grayson](#): > > Tbh, I really don’t think we need another POTC movie…I love Captain Jack, but the first trilogy was perfect (to me). This fourth one (and any subsequent others) will just feel forced. Not to mention that Knightley shan’t be in the next one. Too old at 27. :mad: Like there’s any reason to watch that series other than to look at that face. ---
**Author:** ![Keith\_Berry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/22d042/32.png) [@Keith\_Berry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Keith_Berry)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-stories-you-love-but-never-want-to-see-a-sequel-to/564985/28 "2010-12-22T16:02:46Z")
> [@Dung\_Beetle](#): > > I hear that Stephen King is working on a sequel to _The Shining_ (his best work, IMO). And Og help me, I know that I’ll read it and that he’ll fuck it up and I’ll be sad. King has also kicked around the idea of a sequel to _Salem’s Lot_, which would probably be wretched as well. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-stories-you-love-but-never-want-to-see-a-sequel-to/564985/29 "2010-12-22T16:08:11Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > Not to mention that Knightley shan’t be in the next one. Too old at 27. :mad: Wait, what? Seriously? But she’s a babe! And will be one, in all likelihood, for another twenty years! Stupid Hollywood. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-stories-you-love-but-never-want-to-see-a-sequel-to/564985/30 "2010-12-22T16:24:59Z")
> [@Mr.Excellent](#): > > Wait, what? Seriously? But she’s a babe! And will be one, in all likelihood, for another twenty years! > > Stupid Hollywood. [It’s true.](http://www.okmagazine.com/2010/02/no-keira-knightley-or-orlando-bloom-on-pirates-of-the-caribbean-4-says-johnny-depp/) I blame you and the rest of the board. Every time I come up with a plan to murder everyone at Disney, you guys are all, “No, Skaldimus! It’s too evil!” ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-stories-you-love-but-never-want-to-see-a-sequel-to/564985/31 "2010-12-22T16:31:47Z")
According to IMDB, Penelope Cruz is the new female lead. The gods hate us. Well, you guys. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-stories-you-love-but-never-want-to-see-a-sequel-to/564985/32 "2010-12-22T16:35:00Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > The Wicker Man II > (These latter 2, we could have done without the recent versions) Depends on if you mean the original or the remake. I’ve heard interesting ideas about sequels to the original. (I’m not talking about The Wicker Tree- formerly titled Riding of the Laddie/May Day/Cowboys for Christ, either.) One involves Howie surviving as a disfigured guru for repentant Summerislanders & another- Willow having conceived a child by him & then fleeing the community who wants to kill the baby. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-stories-you-love-but-never-want-to-see-a-sequel-to/564985/33 "2010-12-22T16:42:27Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > According to IMDB, Penelope Cruz is the new female lead. The gods hate us. > > Well, you guys. In all fairness, Ms. Cruz is lovely. And I thought she did a fine job in “Open Your Eyes.” But still - I’ve never been impressed by her acting in English-language gigs. And isn’t she older than Knightley anyway? ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-stories-you-love-but-never-want-to-see-a-sequel-to/564985/34 "2010-12-22T16:46:21Z")
> [@Mr.Excellent](#): > > In all fairness, Ms. Cruz is lovely. And I thought she did a fine job in “Open Your Eyes.” But still - I’ve never been impressed by her acting in English-language gigs. And isn’t she older than Knightley anyway? What have I told you about bothering me with facts? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-stories-you-love-but-never-want-to-see-a-sequel-to/564985/35 "2010-12-22T16:46:40Z")
> [@FriarTed](#): > > Depends on if you mean the original or the remake. I’ve heard interesting ideas about sequels to the original. (I’m not talking about The Wicker Tree- formerly titled Riding of the Laddie/May Day/Cowboys for Christ, either.) One involves Howie surviving as a disfigured guru for repentant Summerislanders & another- Willow having conceived a child by him & then fleeing the community who wants to kill the baby. Eh. I’m not sure either of those would work terribly well. Howie-as-creepy-guru would rob the sequel of the relatively light, surreal tone that drove most of the first movie. Sure, it got extremely dark at the very end - but the fact it had been a relatively cheerful film for the first three-quarters or so made the end much more effective. As for Willow being pregnant with Howie’s kid - why would the Islanders want to kill that infant? Summerisle theology values adult sacrifices much more highly than child sacrifice - the kid should be fine. Besides, a big part of Howie’s character was his aversion to sex outside of Christian marriage. It’s not really believable that he got anyone pregant before his appointment with the Wicker Man. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-about-stories-you-love-but-never-want-to-see-a-sequel-to/564985.md?page=1)