# Let's talk grilled cheese

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-grilled-cheese/989658>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** food-cooking\
**Created:** [September 5, 2023, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-grilled-cheese/989658 "2023-09-05T18:29:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2024, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-grilled-cheese/989658/101 "2024-06-29T15:59:59Z")

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Starbucks has a very good grilled cheese.

I copy it closely and make at home with Sourdough bread, white cheddar, and mozzarella. I don’t make the [Parmesan Butter spread](https://www.tasteofhome.com/recipes/parmesan-butter/). It looks like an easy recipe. It’s a hassle for only one sandwich.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2024, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-grilled-cheese/989658/102 "2024-09-05T02:21:47Z")

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Those who love grilled cheese in many incarnations, we should have a Dopefest in my city. There’s a place called The WheelBarrel that specialized in grilled cheese. Every time I’ve eaten there I love it.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2024, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-grilled-cheese/989658/103 "2024-09-05T02:44:27Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> There’s a place called The WheelBarrel that specialized in grilled cheese.

I’m in. I’m about a 2 hour drive from your city.

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2024, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-grilled-cheese/989658/104 "2024-09-05T03:00:49Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> I’m in. I’m about a 2 hour drive from your city.

I’m in too. I’m 2 hours 42 minutes away. Need to make it a long weekend~there’s at least 5 sandwiches I **have** to try.

Here’s the menu to tiptoe through.

> **[The Wheel Barrel | Topeka Kansas](https://www.thewheelbarrel.com/)**

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2024, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-grilled-cheese/989658/105 "2024-09-05T04:33:09Z")

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I can guarantee that the menu is good, and so is the beer and the pickles. Hey, I’m retired and could be a hostess just about any time folks would want to come. If someone needs a place to stay you can have my bed and I’ll sleep in the recliner, I’ve done that before when I hurt my shoulder. I do have a dog and a cat though, the dog is super friendly and the cat may hide but he won’t bother you. The same area the Wheel Barrel is in has a other places to eat and drink, there’s a fantastic micro brewery, the Norseman, just a block away, and for breakfast theres Bradleys Cafe just a few doors from the Norseman. Tuesday nights they have a great trivia game, we are smart people aren’t we? We could do this!!!

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2024, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-grilled-cheese/989658/106 "2024-09-05T12:42:02Z")

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I like a couple of slices of bacon on a grilled cheese. I also like grilled pimiento cheese sandwich. But they must always be cut on the diagonal, either for dipping in tomato soup or just the fun of biting off the corner.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2024, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-grilled-cheese/989658/107 "2024-09-06T21:14:06Z")

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Starbucks has a very good grilled cheese. Pricey but everything they sell is expensive

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**Author:** ![fedman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e495f1/32.png) [@fedman1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fedman1)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-grilled-cheese/989658/108 "2024-09-07T08:25:37Z")

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That wouldn’t be Melt in Cleveland, which just went out of business?

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-grilled-cheese/989658/109 "2024-09-07T08:51:01Z")

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> [@fedman1](#):
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> That wouldn’t be Melt in Cleveland, which just went out of business

Four posts up ⬆. It’s the Wheel House in Topeka, Kansas.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-grilled-cheese/989658/110 "2024-09-07T08:54:12Z")

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Close, it’s the Wheel Barrel, and typing in the wee small hours makes me hungry thinking about the place. Y’all need to come, like I said, I don’t have a lot of space my self but there’s a bed for two and a recliner. Free housing!

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-grilled-cheese/989658/111 "2024-09-07T17:59:36Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> Close, it’s the Wheel Barrel

What can I say? It was 4 o’clock in the morning and obviously accuracy wasn’t in my wheel house at that moment 😕. At least I got the ‘four posts up ⬆’ part right.

Rest assured, Topeka is now on my bucket list. First time I’ve ever said that out loud.

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-grilled-cheese/989658/112 "2024-09-07T18:21:49Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> The absolute best cheese for a grilled cheese sandwich is those big blocks of “Government Cheese” that they give away for free… Is that still a thing? Absent that, though, any sort of cheddar or American will work. Alternately, you can replace half of the cheese with cream cheese: It’s not the same thing, but it’s good

You know I recently discovered why a lot of that was as great as it was? because it was a lower-grade version of Kraft Velveeta… apparently kraft received a huge tax break for making it for the USDA so much so that it affected them financially when they stopped for a while

In this week’s MMP we are having a debate about the "frozen presliced grilled cheese toasties " Would you try or not ?

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-grilled-cheese/989658/113 "2024-09-07T20:35:41Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> I have fond memories of the open face grilled Velveeta sandwiches my mother made. One slice of white bread, a thick slice of Velveeta, toasted under the broiler until the cheese gets ooey-gooey. Some times it would bubble and start to blacken, that meant it was perfectly done. If you ate it too soon, it would burn the roof of your mouth off.

I liked grilled cheese sandwiches fine when I was a kid, but I didn’t love them, and they weren’t my favorite. But we did do these open face cheese “sandwiches” under the broiler, with a slice of tomato and a sprinkle of garlic salt. And you had to keep them under the broiler until the edges were nearly charcoal. That was ambrosia.

Although if I had a can of Ortega chiles, those were a good sub for the tomato.

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**Author:** ![Die\_Capacitrix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/die_capacitrix/32/9_2.png) [@Die\_Capacitrix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Die_Capacitrix)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-grilled-cheese/989658/114 "2024-09-08T07:23:59Z")

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> [@BippityBoppityBoo](#):
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> Rest assured, Topeka is now on my bucket list. First time I’ve ever said that out loud.

There was a post some time ago about fly-fishing in some Kansas-like area that was so well written, that I put that place on my list of places to go if I’m ever close enough.

Looks like I have to add Topeka to my list as well. Probably won’t be in the area any time soon, but life is strange.

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-grilled-cheese/989658/115 "2024-09-08T07:30:59Z")

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> [@Die\_Capacitrix](#):
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> Looks like I have to add Topeka to my list as well.

Fly into Omaha and we can drive down together. Mumpfest!

Or fly into Chicago (lots cheaper) and take Amtrak’s California Zephyr train to Lincoln and I’ll pull up in my Venetian red Suburu to pick you up. The station is about a mile away from my house~at night I can sometimes hear train whistles.

> [@Die\_Capacitrix](#):
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> Probably won’t be in the area any time soon, but life is strange.

Tis true.

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**Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-grilled-cheese/989658/116 "2024-09-08T08:17:44Z")

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> [@WildaBeast](#):
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> (come to think of it, they call them “grilled cheese” on the menu, so maybe the do call them that in the UK)

In my part of the UK (the south) If it’s an open sandwich (ie one slice of bread with melted cheese on top), it’s ‘cheese on toast’; a more complex version of the same - often comprising some sort of cheesy sauce/topping might be ‘Welsh Rarebit’.  
If it’s two slices of bread/toast with a melted cheese filling it’s a toastie, or a toasted sandwich or maybe Croque Monsieur (or Croque [something else]).

‘Grilled cheese’ is a term that actually trips up a fair few people here - partly because ‘grill’, in a domestic setting is what in the USA is called a broiler (although bars over charcoal or other radiant source might also be called a grill), but also due to the fragmentary nature of the name; people may expect this to be a literal piece of cheese that has been grilled (like halloumi or something).  
This is just a familiarity thing and is possibly similar to:

UK: Macaroni cheese  
USA: Macaroni **and** cheese

You guys need an ‘and’ in there; we don’t.

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**Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-grilled-cheese/989658/117 "2024-09-08T20:19:47Z")

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Yours sounds like the macaroni is made of cheese.

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**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-grilled-cheese/989658/118 "2024-09-08T20:29:21Z")

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I chopped cooked Bacon and red onion, w/bbq sauce put between the cheeses grilled crispy.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-grilled-cheese/989658/119 "2024-09-08T20:35:31Z")

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A gluten-free noodle, just like the ones made with lentils, only substituting cheese! I bet _that_ would make a tasty macaroni and cheese dish 😋

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-grilled-cheese/989658/120 "2024-09-08T21:05:28Z")

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lo l thats one of my fav pizzas …tho they put chicken on it too

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