# Let's Talk Pokemon!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-pokemon/502504>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [July 9, 2009, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-pokemon/502504 "2009-07-09T23:01:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-pokemon/502504/181 "2009-08-04T19:58:00Z")

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> [@MeDrewNotYou](#):
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> I blame Nintendo. Their sites aren’t clear at all about what version it was for; I’d expect them to put a “Platinum version only” thing at the bottom, but nooooooo! Stupid Nintendo. :mad:
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> Even the Pokemon fan sites didn’t specify when they mentioned the news and they’re usually on the ball.

So how does a Diamond or Pearl player get a Darkrai creature, then? Seems unfair.

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**Author:** ![MeDrewNotYou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@MeDrewNotYou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeDrewNotYou)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-pokemon/502504/182 "2009-08-04T20:22:22Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> So how does a Diamond or Pearl player get a Darkrai creature, then? Seems unfair.

I think that the item that unlocks it was released at an event a year or two ago. Game Stop and Toys 'R Us probably distributed them. Not as convenient as getting it via WiFi, but not impossible to find. Much better than the old days where you had to physically link with cables to get the rarer ones.

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-pokemon/502504/183 "2009-08-04T20:29:13Z")

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> [@MeDrewNotYou](#):
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> Porygon is fine. I’ll have time to breed some up after lunch. Do you have any gender or nature preferences?

No preferences at all. Thank you.  
Bricker: Here is a website that has some [tournaments](http://www.smogon.com/), although if there are prizes I have no clue. I’m sure he already knows about it though.

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**Author:** ![MeDrewNotYou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@MeDrewNotYou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeDrewNotYou)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-pokemon/502504/184 "2009-08-04T20:44:54Z")

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> [@RandMcnally](#):
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> No preferences at all. Thank you.  
> Bricker: Here is a website that has some [tournaments](http://www.smogon.com/), although if there are prizes I have no clue. I’m sure he already knows about it though.

You’re in luck! I got a female with a Naughty nature and “Often lost in thought.” She’ll have especially good Atk. and Sp. Atk. Moves are Wrap, Leer, and Thunder Wave.

See you 7/4

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**Author:** ![MeDrewNotYou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@MeDrewNotYou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeDrewNotYou)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-pokemon/502504/185 "2009-08-05T19:32:06Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Bricker Jr says: Well, yes, I am still looking for Groudon. I’m thinking about trading Monday or Tuesday afternoon. Yes, I do have some of the event legendaries. If you can tell me exactly who you want, I’d be happy to trade.

Hope he hasn’t forgot about the Groudon. 🙂  
I have a second one now, lvl 46, that I traded for. I don’t have the DS handy, but I know that he’s gained some EVs and might not have his original moves, so he probably isn’t as desirable.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2009, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-pokemon/502504/186 "2009-08-05T22:15:51Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> So how does a Diamond or Pearl player get a Darkrai creature, then? Seems unfair.

There was a Toys R Us event last year timed to coincide with the DVD release of _The Rise of Darkrai_. That’s where my sons got the first of theirs. The event was for the Darkrai itself, not an item like the Platinum event.

You can also unlock a bonus mission in the side game “Pokemon Ranger:Shadows of Almia”, capture the Darkrai, and send it to Diamond/Pearl via the local WiFi (provided you have 2 DS units). My kids have done the bonus mission, but haven’t copied over Darkrai. “Pokemon Ranger:Shadows of Almia” also has bonus missions that can get you a Manaphy egg and a Riolu that knows Aura Sphere.

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**Author:** ![MeDrewNotYou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@MeDrewNotYou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeDrewNotYou)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-pokemon/502504/187 "2009-08-06T00:44:12Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> There was a Toys R Us event last year timed to coincide with the DVD release of _The Rise of Darkrai_. That’s where my sons got the first of theirs. The event was for the Darkrai itself, not an item like the Platinum event.
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> You can also unlock a bonus mission in the side game “Pokemon Ranger:Shadows of Almia”, capture the Darkrai, and send it to Diamond/Pearl via the local WiFi (provided you have 2 DS units). My kids have done the bonus mission, but haven’t copied over Darkrai. “Pokemon Ranger:Shadows of Almia” also has bonus missions that can get you a Manaphy egg and a Riolu that knows Aura Sphere.

I knew about _Pokemon Ranger_ having Manaphy, but with Darkrai too? Hmm…

I might try to get a friend to go halfsies on it. I’ve still got 3 weeks of vacation that need to be wasted on video games. 😃

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-pokemon/502504/188 "2009-08-06T00:47:30Z")

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> [@MeDrewNotYou](#):
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> I knew about _Pokemon Ranger_ having Manaphy, but with Darkrai too? Hmm…
> 
> I might try to get a friend to go halfsies on it. I’ve still got 3 weeks of vacation that need to be wasted on video games. 😃

Just a warning, there are 2 Ranger games. The original _Pokemon Ranger_ just has the Manaphy egg. The sequel _Pokemon Ranger: Shadows of Almia_ is the one with Darkrai, Manaphy egg, and Riolu (also bonus missions with Palkia, Dialga, and Shaymin, but the latter 3 aren’t transferable to Diamond/Pearl/Platinum)

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**Author:** ![CyclopticXander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@CyclopticXander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CyclopticXander)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-pokemon/502504/189 "2009-08-06T04:01:11Z")

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Well I’ve been out for a while. I’m always down for trades but… I feel like a broken record here, is anyone any closer to being ready for a battle?🙂

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-pokemon/502504/190 "2009-08-06T05:08:52Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> Just a warning, there are 2 Ranger games. The original _Pokemon Ranger_ just has the Manaphy egg. The sequel _Pokemon Ranger: Shadows of Almia_ is the one with Darkrai, Manaphy egg, and Riolu

I knew I forgot something. The bonus Darkrai mission was downloadable through WiFi for a limited time only, supposedly December 2008-January 2009. I have noticed some WiFi downloads still being available after the announced end date, but I have no way to determine if this is one of them. So you may not want to get the game just for the Darkrai. Although it is a pretty fun game, one that makes great use of the DS touch screen.

And now my turn for a request. As a cheap father, I didn’t bother getting my kids Ruby/Sapphire since I got them Emerald. But this means they have no way to get Zangoose or Lunatone. Anybody want to trade or let me see one so we can get them off of GTS? They have every other DS-compatible game (Diamond/Pearl/Platinum/Emerald/Fire Red/Leaf Green) so I’m sure we can offer up some other version exclusive Pokemon. I know my boys won’t part with any legendaries, except Phione, as we can breed as many of those as we want.

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**Author:** ![MeDrewNotYou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@MeDrewNotYou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeDrewNotYou)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-pokemon/502504/191 "2009-08-06T05:35:40Z")

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> [@CyclopticXander](#):
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> Well I’ve been out for a while. I’m always down for trades but… I feel like a broken record here, is anyone any closer to being ready for a battle?🙂

How about Friday afternoon/evening? We can do it with or without legendaries, but it might be interesting to have 4-5 regulars and 1-2 legendaries, just to see what we come up with.

> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> I knew I forgot something. The bonus Darkrai mission was downloadable through WiFi for a limited time only, supposedly December 2008-January 2009. I have noticed some WiFi downloads still being available after the announced end date, but I have no way to determine if this is one of them. So you may not want to get the game just for the Darkrai. Although it is a pretty fun game, one that makes great use of the DS touch screen.
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> And now my turn for a request. As a cheap father, I didn’t bother getting my kids Ruby/Sapphire since I got them Emerald. But this means they have no way to get Zangoose or Lunatone. Anybody want to trade or let me see one so we can get them off of GTS? They have every other DS-compatible game (Diamond/Pearl/Platinum/Emerald/Fire Red/Leaf Green) so I’m sure we can offer up some other version exclusive Pokemon. I know my boys won’t part with any legendaries, except Phione, as we can breed as many of those as we want.

I think I have each on _My Pokemon Ranch_, do you think they’d be willing to show me a Manaphy and/or Darkrai for them? (I’d bring some legendaries as collateral.) If they aren’t comfortable with that, I’d settle for a Seviper and a lvl 1 Magnemite or Budew.

ETA: Actually I could use a Burmy too, if that’s better for them.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-pokemon/502504/192 "2009-08-06T16:20:13Z")

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> [@MeDrewNotYou](#):
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> Hope he hasn’t forgot about the Groudon. 🙂  
> I have a second one now, lvl 46, that I traded for. I don’t have the DS handy, but I know that he’s gained some EVs and might not have his original moves, so he probably isn’t as desirable.

Bricker Jr says (and I quote): I am still interested in gaining Groudon.

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**Author:** ![MeDrewNotYou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@MeDrewNotYou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeDrewNotYou)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-pokemon/502504/193 "2009-08-06T16:31:11Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Bricker Jr says (and I quote): I am still interested in gaining Groudon.

Hehe. I like the way he says that. It sounds very intellectual. Are you sure he isn’t sipping cognac by a fireplace somewhere?

If he has a Jirachi, I’d like that, or Raikou or Entei.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-pokemon/502504/194 "2009-08-06T17:14:36Z")

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> [@MeDrewNotYou](#):
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> Hehe. I like the way he says that. It sounds very intellectual. Are you sure he isn’t sipping cognac by a fireplace somewhere?

Heh heh heh… “Gaining Groudon” was the title of one of the cartoon episodes, so I’m thinking that’s where he got it.

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> If he has a Jirachi, I’d like that, or Raikou or Entei.

I’ll ask!

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2009, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-pokemon/502504/195 "2009-08-08T00:01:48Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Heh heh heh… “Gaining Groudon” was the title of one of the cartoon episodes, so I’m thinking that’s where he got it.
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> I’ll ask!

How about a Level 5 Jirachi?

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**Author:** ![MeDrewNotYou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@MeDrewNotYou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeDrewNotYou)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2009, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-pokemon/502504/196 "2009-08-08T00:51:18Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> How about a Level 5 Jirachi?

That’s peachy. I assume he wants the lvl 70 one w/ no EVs? Sunday afternoon/evening good?

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2009, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-pokemon/502504/197 "2009-08-08T16:30:24Z")

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> [@MeDrewNotYou](#):
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> That’s peachy. I assume he wants the lvl 70 one w/ no EVs? Sunday afternoon/evening good?

Sunday evening, about 8 EDT?

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**Author:** ![MeDrewNotYou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@MeDrewNotYou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeDrewNotYou)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2009, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-pokemon/502504/198 "2009-08-08T17:29:11Z")

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Okay. If he thinks of anything else he’d like to trade before then, just give me a shout.

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**Author:** ![MeDrewNotYou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@MeDrewNotYou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeDrewNotYou)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2009, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-pokemon/502504/199 "2009-08-08T19:56:19Z")

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> [@joco23](#):
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> I love charmander! I own a lot of versions but I love red the best!
> 
> [Xanax 2mg](http://www.xanax2mg.com)

This has been bothering me since yesterday. While I’m still waiting for a mod to look at this, I want to mention something I find a little disturbing. Even though **Rand** , **Xander** , and I are young adults, let’s not kid ourselves; Pokemon is mostly a kid’s game. Its a well designed and fun RPG, but we aren’t the target audience, **BrickJr** and **ChockFull** ’s kids are.

That a fly-by-night drug company might want to sell us older folks drugs doesn’t bother me much. They go about it in a sleazy (and I’d argue medically unethical, but that’s a GD kinda thing) way, but it isn’t too hard to tune out. The fact that the spammer either has an auto-message _that specifically mentions Pokemon_ or the spammer _specifically target a thread about a children’s game_ is what bugs me. Asking for decency from these people is hopeless, but one would at least think they’d limit this to WoW threads or something.

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**Author:** ![MeDrewNotYou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@MeDrewNotYou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeDrewNotYou)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2009, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-pokemon/502504/200 "2009-08-10T01:10:43Z")

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**Bricker-** My battery is about dead, want to reschedule?

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