# Lets Talk Race

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-race/705432>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [November 23, 2014, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-race/705432 "2014-11-23T20:31:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![mustudent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bc79bd/32.png) [@mustudent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mustudent)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-race/705432/1 "2014-11-23T20:31:53Z")

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How do people feel about Diversity and how it plays a role in America/culture?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-race/705432/2 "2014-11-23T20:32:42Z")

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Diversity is good and has played an enormous role in American history and culture. Anything more specific?

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**Author:** ![mustudent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bc79bd/32.png) [@mustudent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mustudent)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-race/705432/3 "2014-11-23T20:34:06Z")

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I would like to get opinions on diversity in America…?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-race/705432/4 "2014-11-23T20:36:52Z")

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It’s the cultural equivalent of what the free market is to the economy. Different cultures exist alongside each other and society can choose the best aspects from each. The resulting multiculture is more alive with ideas than any singular culture could be.

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**Author:** ![Max\_the\_Immortal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Max\_the\_Immortal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_the_Immortal)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-race/705432/5 "2014-11-23T20:40:14Z")

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How do _you_ feel about it, **mustudent**?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-race/705432/6 "2014-11-23T20:51:34Z")

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What’s the debate?

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-race/705432/7 "2014-11-23T20:54:35Z")

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Diversity good. Exclusivity bad.

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**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-race/705432/8 "2014-11-23T21:00:29Z")

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I think it’s delicious! 😃

I’m not being completely frivolous here. People talk and bond over shared food – how it’s made, when, special reasons, memories. If world peace ever comes to pass, I think it will be because we’re too busy cooking and sharing our own “ethnic” specialties with each other, to kill each other. I’ve learned more about how people from other cultures live and think about food through potlucks than through any history or sociology course. Tastier, too.

I can’t imagine living someplace that’s all one race, ethnicity, religion, sexuality, whatever. It would be boring.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-race/705432/9 "2014-11-23T21:02:39Z")

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This wouldn’t happen to be a homework assignment, would it?

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-race/705432/10 "2014-11-23T21:13:11Z")

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I am of the opinion that race is a thing that exists.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-race/705432/11 "2014-11-23T21:14:44Z")

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My opinion is that the US is pretty diverse.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-race/705432/12 "2014-11-23T21:14:47Z")

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> [@mustudent](#):
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> How do people feel about Diversity and how it plays a role in America/culture?

Some people feel good about it. Some don’t.

Glad I could contribute.

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-race/705432/13 "2014-11-23T21:16:20Z")

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Genetic diversity is awesome.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-race/705432/14 "2014-11-23T21:25:12Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> I am of the opinion that race is a thing that exists.

I disagree. It is a social construct, but not in itself a thing that exists.

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-race/705432/15 "2014-11-23T21:56:32Z")

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Seems to me that the crime rate is directly correlated to the diversity of a city. That is probably not a coincidence, so I’m going to assume that “diversity” contributes somehow to the incidence of crime. Saying that does not necessarily mean that diverse groups carry a criminality withthem. It could be a causality of diversity contributing to poverty or a demographic that is otherwise marginalized, leading then to criminality. Nevertheless, it appears that factors generated by diversity tend to lead to criminality.

If that is the case, it would be hard to argue that raising diversity has had a positive social effect, or promises to have one in the future…

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**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/staggerlee/32/3134_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Staggerlee)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-race/705432/16 "2014-11-23T22:12:07Z")

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> [@jtur88](#):
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> Seems to me that the crime rate is directly correlated to the diversity of a city. That is probably not a coincidence, so I’m going to assume that “diversity” contributes somehow to the incidence of crime. Saying that does not necessarily mean that diverse groups carry a criminality withthem. It could be a causality of diversity contributing to poverty or a demographic that is otherwise marginalized, leading then to criminality. Nevertheless, it appears that factors generated by diversity tend to lead to criminality.
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> If that is the case, it would be hard to argue that raising diversity has had a positive social effect, or promises to have one in the future…

I expect that both the crime rate and diversity tend increase with city-size - as an economy grows, so does immigration, wealth inequalities and the black market, so it’s presumably not as straightforward as you suggest. But I’m not in the mood for sociological discussion, or homework.

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**Author:** ![Canadjun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@Canadjun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Canadjun)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-race/705432/17 "2014-11-23T22:16:05Z")

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Reported that the same question is posted in two places (GD and IMHO)

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**Author:** ![jimbuff314](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c57346/32.png) [@jimbuff314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimbuff314)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-race/705432/18 "2014-11-23T22:19:48Z")

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Given the OP’s username and obvious essay question, I’m gonna say :  
I do an 11.3 sec forty-yard-dash. What do I win?

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-race/705432/19 "2014-11-23T22:32:00Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> Diversity good. Exclusivity bad.

If I disagree with you, I am against diversity. If I agree with you, and an discouraging diversity of opinion. Does not compute. Head asplode.

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**Author:** ![Steken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Steken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steken)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2014, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-talk-race/705432/20 "2014-11-23T22:38:52Z")

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The first two albums are good. They sold out after that.

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