# Let's welcome our newest bigot **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 12, 2017, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-welcome-our-newest-bigot/779617 "2017-02-12T02:27:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-welcome-our-newest-bigot/779617/81 "2017-02-13T03:31:54Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > You guys are only convincing the neo-fascists being roasted here that we’re all just a bunch of _grammar_ Nazis! Are you saying you have a problem with that? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-welcome-our-newest-bigot/779617/82 "2017-02-13T03:45:29Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > [Conjunction](http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Like). The verb after _I_ is understood. Since the pronoun is operating as the subject of the clause, it is nominative. > > The above is formal usage, of course. Although b/j got the grammar correct, his content is, let’s say, alternative. Nope. The preposition reading is far clearer. He wants people like he–excuse me, like **him**. In the same way I’d say “His posts are like a pile of fetid squirrels,” or “I wish there were more pizzas like that,” he wishes there were more people like **him**. No imaginary verb is necessary. Check around for usage notes. I’ve found several that address this exact question; not a one approves of “like I.” I have no problem with it as a colloquialism, but it’s nonsense to claim it’s standard English. Edit: if you really want to be formal, “like” is frowned at by some in its use as a conjunction; the preferred conjunction is “as.” So even the “he’s as formal as he is stupid” argument fails. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Crap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.crap/32/3131_2.png) [@Dr.Crap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Crap)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-welcome-our-newest-bigot/779617/83 "2017-02-13T05:56:25Z")
We all need someone to shit on. Thanks for being our toilet, Jefferson. ---
**Author:** ![CatandMouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@CatandMouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatandMouse)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-welcome-our-newest-bigot/779617/84 "2017-02-13T06:47:34Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > [Hi](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19983391&postcount=21), [Jefferson](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19993240&postcount=116). > > I especially like that it only took him nine days after registering to toss out this fun “fact”: > > Of course, that was just an afterthought (apparently) to this stupidity posted four days after registering: > > So, basically we have a [del]jackass[/del] bigot who thinks that all Muslims are prone to be terrorists and Muslims usually share one culture. I think someone’s been doing dope and just tripped onto this site. Has anyone asked if his full name is Jefferson Beauregard Sessions? ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-welcome-our-newest-bigot/779617/85 "2017-02-13T06:47:50Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > You guys are only convincing the neo-fascists being roasted here that we’re all just a bunch of _grammar_ Nazis! > 🙂 No. We’re alt-write. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-welcome-our-newest-bigot/779617/86 "2017-02-13T07:03:13Z")
Fearsome, they are. Hardened veterans of the 101st Keyboard speak their names in muted tones of awe and reverence. Their eyes are smoky with the fires of the noobs they have flamed, steely Spartans of the message boards. The weak, the timid, the liberal shrink from the sting of their contempt. Probably if those Islamic jihadist guys ever actually read these boards, they would most likely just give up, whipped by their stern disdain, they would just quit. Maybe take up Scientology or Ayn Rand. ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-welcome-our-newest-bigot/779617/87 "2017-02-13T07:16:28Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > No. > > We’re alt-write. Thread winner! ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-welcome-our-newest-bigot/779617/88 "2017-02-13T08:25:53Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > We’re alt-write. _applause_ ---
**Author:** ![Jefferson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8491ac/32.png) [@Jefferson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jefferson)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-welcome-our-newest-bigot/779617/89 "2017-02-13T14:29:01Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > “More like I”, eh? I think we’ve already established that you’re an ignorant, hateful bigot, so I have nothing further to add on that score. > > I’ll just add that if your understanding of idiomatic English usage extended to linguistic nuance beyond the level of grade-school rote, you wouldn’t make such a pretentious ass of yourself. When you were in grade school, did the other kids often hold you upside down and dip your head in the toilet? I imagine they did. I enjoy thinking about it. All that has been established is that rancid hate-filled mobs of “liberals” infest the internet. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-welcome-our-newest-bigot/779617/90 "2017-02-13T16:21:04Z")
> [@Are Americans losing it with Muslims?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-americans-losing-it-with-muslims/741553/651): > > > [@Are Americans losing it with Muslims?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-americans-losing-it-with-muslims/741553/647): > > > > I’m English > > > [@Are Americans losing it with Muslims?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-americans-losing-it-with-muslims/741553/648): > > > > Hey Jefferson, England is a geographically small country, so perhaps you can help me out. Where is the location “Eating pig with the Prophet Mohammed”, and what does it mean? > > Rather then get into it here, please justify your statement in The Pit thread “[Let’s welcome our newest bigot](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=818900)”. Of course the offensive nature of your statement comes through loud and clear. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-welcome-our-newest-bigot/779617/91 "2017-02-13T16:43:56Z")
> [@Jefferson](#): > > All that has been established is that rancid hate-filled mobs of “liberals” infest the internet. The sarcastiquotes are great, since without them the sentence is bullshit. With them, it’s just opaque, since nobody knows to whom you’re sarcastically referring. Sadly, a little bit of transparency is likely to render the quote bullshit again. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-welcome-our-newest-bigot/779617/92 "2017-02-13T16:53:15Z")
The twerp still thinks I’m a liberal. Oh, well Trump still thinks he’s competent. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-welcome-our-newest-bigot/779617/93 "2017-02-13T17:02:08Z")
> [@Jefferson](#): > > All that has been established is that rancid hate-filled mobs of “liberals” infest the internet. No, I think what’s been clearly established from your pontifications in your short but illustrious time here is that you’re a prejudiced asshole, but you seem to be rapidly expanding the scope of your prejudice. Muslims and liberals everywhere, oh, my! You also can’t write. Sloppy writing is common enough, but when you grace us with phrases like “if the world were more like I”, that isn’t just ordinary sloppy writing (not to mention the narcissism), it’s a contrived affectation – the bleating of feigned superiority by a pompous ignoramus. Just the kind of pompous dweeb, in fact, who might be expected to [spontaneously offer us a helpful lecture on remedial English](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=818944). ---
**Author:** ![Jefferson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8491ac/32.png) [@Jefferson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jefferson)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-welcome-our-newest-bigot/779617/94 "2017-02-13T18:25:00Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > No, I think what’s been clearly established from your pontifications in your short but illustrious time here is that you’re a prejudiced asshole, but you seem to be rapidly expanding the scope of your prejudice. Muslims and liberals everywhere, oh, my! > > You also can’t write. Sloppy writing is common enough, but when you grace us with phrases like “if the world were more like I”, that isn’t just ordinary sloppy writing (not to mention the narcissism), it’s a contrived affectation – the bleating of feigned superiority by a pompous ignoramus. Just the kind of pompous dweeb, in fact, who might be expected to [spontaneously offer us a helpful lecture on remedial English](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=818944). The grammar is correct, nurdlinger. But trying to criticise someone on a site like this for their grammar indicates you have lost the argument. ---
**Author:** ![Jefferson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8491ac/32.png) [@Jefferson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jefferson)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-welcome-our-newest-bigot/779617/95 "2017-02-13T18:27:03Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > Of course the offensive nature of your statement comes through loud and clear. What are you trying to say? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-welcome-our-newest-bigot/779617/96 "2017-02-13T18:40:43Z")
> [@Jefferson](#): > > The 12 days to become “radicalised” is a quote from a Government (UK) expert on radicalisation. Who? Others have asked you for a citation and you seem to be ignoring them. I’m genuinely curious about the context and so far I’ve been unable to find any expert commentary or report approximating the claim. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-welcome-our-newest-bigot/779617/97 "2017-02-13T18:59:48Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Who? Others have asked you for a citation and you seem to be ignoring them. I’m genuinely curious about the context and so far I’ve been unable to find any expert commentary or report approximating the claim. I think you need to consult with an expert proctologist for the answer. ---
**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-welcome-our-newest-bigot/779617/98 "2017-02-13T19:00:11Z")
> [@Jefferson](#): > > The grammar is correct, nurdlinger. But trying to criticise someone on a site like this for their grammar indicates you have lost the argument. I was the one who corrected your pronoun usage. You denied the error and insisted that you were correct. I had a lot of support on this forum, from other people who are smarter than I am, who were able to describe your error. If you can’t even get things like that right, how are we to expect that you are getting anything else right? ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-welcome-our-newest-bigot/779617/99 "2017-02-13T19:13:32Z")
> [@Jefferson](#): > > The grammar is correct, nurdlinger. But trying to criticise someone on a site like this for their grammar indicates you have lost the argument. Good idea, doubling down on the stupid always helps! 😃 [I explained here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19996322&postcount=79) why your grammar is wrong. Not just wrong, but wrapped in a contrived and pretentious aura that is blissfully unaware of its own wrongness. Or perhaps Shakespeare, Swift, Dickens, and other great writers are the ones who are wrong, and linguists like Mark Liberman and Geoff Pullum are wrong, too, but you, a random Internet dweeb and raving bigot, are absolutely correct. But I don’t think so. I would also note that you not only cannot write, you also cannot read. The word “also” in my earlier note preceded my description of your grammatical blunder. This means “additional to”. Your primary credentials as an Islamophobe and raving bigot were established first. Your secondary credentials as a pretentious illiterate are just the icing on the cake. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2017, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-welcome-our-newest-bigot/779617/100 "2017-02-13T20:08:07Z")
> [@Jefferson](#): > > What are you trying to say? Something even you can understand: FUCK OFF. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-welcome-our-newest-bigot/779617.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lets-welcome-our-newest-bigot/779617.md?page=6)