As Mueller could say: Tell me more ghost stories uncle Jeff!
Can’t argue with that. If your “noble goal” is to be universally thought of as an idiot on an Internet message board, then mission accomplished.
When Lorelei Lee said “a girl like I” it was charming. She may have been a bit too fond of diamonds, but her mistake indicated a desire to sound more educated.
Jefferson lacks charm. The historical TJ had his moments–producing the first draft of the Declaration & championing Church/State separation. I think our local version identifies more with the TJ revealed in Notes on the State of Virginia:
Sorry for the Wall O’Text–he did tend to go on. Briefly, TJ was too lazy to actually use Science to prove his belief in Black Inferiority. Yet his belief was sufficiently strong to provide reasons not to end slavery (which he opposed–at times). Why, ending slavery (without removing the ex-slaves) would lead to “staining the blood of his master.” (Staining the blood of her master was just fine.)
Just glad that this latest idiot has given me an excuse to dig up an old historical grudge…
Like Jefferson the Blinky does not look like he will grow up, they follow the motto of another famous Jeffrey:
I don’t wanna grow up! I’m a Hate Я us Kid!
Okay, hold on here.
I am absolutely NO fan of Islam. I’m not a fan of any religious ideology whatsoever. I believe in none of these methods or paths as religions call them. I argue against them all the time.
But FIRST, I am an American. And every person that comes here has a RIGHT-- not a privilege, a RIGHT, to be as religious as they like to be. No one has to apply for a faith license. It comes with the package. And though I disagree with religion, I’ll never agree with banning people due to religion. As I recall, it was probably the top selling point in the 1650s with people being beheaded by their leaders all over the place. Here, all are welcome and it should always be that way.
So how does this opinion make into some “ridiculous liberal”? The equal rights part?
Jefferson Beauregard Sessions the third?
With him as AG, racism becomes far more acceptable.
Same guy?
Objection, Your Honor. Assuming facts not in evidence.
“More like I”, eh? I think we’ve already established that you’re an ignorant, hateful bigot, so I have nothing further to add on that score.
I’ll just add that if your understanding of idiomatic English usage extended to linguistic nuance beyond the level of grade-school rote, you wouldn’t make such a pretentious ass of yourself. When you were in grade school, did the other kids often hold you upside down and dip your head in the toilet? I imagine they did. I enjoy thinking about it.
And yet is is Republicans who consistently try to tell people what Liberals think.
They couldn’t when he was in grade school. He was 28.
Dr. Dunning, Dr. Kruger, Dr. Howard!
If you weren’t trolling, there would be more contrition in your posts, or outrage that you were misunderstood. Not snark to try and further get under people’s skin.
I see the problem here. You are reading the word “help” with the wrong definition for the context in which running coach used the word. He meant that you can prevent yourself from being an asshole. You apparently think he meant that you can become more of one, sine you seem to understand the word “help” somewhat akin to “Help yourself to move pie”. Nope. He or she most certainly did not mean, “Hey, Troll, go ahead and help yourself to being even more of an asshole than your earlier posts show you to be”.
Actually, b/j* got that one correct. Using the first person singular pronoun in the accusative case is the informal/colloquial use.
To the newbie troll: Whining about “colorful language” in this board’s Pit doesn’t usually bode well for the whiner.
*How fortuitous.
What is to be done? If Islam is inherently and permanently malicious, what is the answer? There is an awful lot of them. A project of forced secularization, then? We will declare their religion unacceptable, and insist that they convert to a more agreeable theistic persuasion? Or none at all?
A less modest proposal, perhaps, a more final solution? Does it involve trains? If your plan centers on massacre and extermination, aren’t you tipping your hand? They might fail to appreciate our moral superiority, and refuse to cooperate. But here you are, giving the game away! So now they are warned, and now, thanks to you, there are more of them.
Of course, none of this may be any part of your plan, you may plan a program of tea, macaroons, and gentle persuasion. In which case, knock yourself out! You will enjoy the unstinting approval of liberals, Christians, humanists, and the sane.
elucidator: Trump has already declared their religion unacceptable. Now he’s trying to convince the judiciary he is not taking action on that declaration. Sadly, he has a lot of support along the likes of ol’ b/j.
I’m (Honestly) interesting in reading it, just out of curiousity. It’s stupid, I’m confident it’s stupid, and I’m interested in the overall context of it - and who said it makes no difference to me.
“Like” is a preposition. It takes an accusative pronoun.
Conjunction. The verb after I is understood. Since the pronoun is operating as the subject of the clause, it is nominative.
The above is formal usage, of course. Although b/j got the grammar correct, his content is, let’s say, alternative.
Actually, I think there’s a good argument to be made that it goes a good deal beyond just the formal/informal register. Certainly if one said “… if only the world were more like I am”, there is no doubt about the required case of the pronoun. But in the absence of the verb, there’s a good reason that the accusative case is so frequently and instinctively used in the common idiom. Mark Liberman lays it out pretty clearly here. “Me” functions here in the manner of a noun-phrase complement in phrases like “walk like an angel” and “ran like nobody’s business” which naturally take the accusative case.
Shakespeare got it right in Romeo and Juliet: “Doting like me, and like me banished”. Jonathan Swift, in The Lady’s Dressing Room: “He soon would learn to think like me”. Robert Southey, in his poem To Lycon: “And train the future race to live and act like me.” Charles Dickens, The Old Curiosity Shop: “… he told me about my mother, and how she once looked and spoke just like me.”
Anyway, only a complete dweeb would use a phrase like “if only the world were more like I” in normal conversation, and under closer scrutiny it appears to be a hypercorrected solecism in any register, or, as Liberman more picturesquely calls it, “nervous cluelessness”. We conclude that our pal Jefferson the Islamophobic bigot and cluelessly nervous grammar maven deserves to be held upside down and have his head submerged in a toilet bowl, an activity to which he must surely by now be accustomed through long experience.
You guys are only convincing the neo-fascists being roasted here that we’re all just a bunch of grammar Nazis!
