You know, you might come across as slightly less of a tool if you actually provided citations more robust than “this article I once read in the Times” or “that documentary whose name I can’t remember I saw one time by that guy whose name I can’t remember either but he’s definitely an expert”. Links would go a long way to help your cause too.
Still making cite free assertions, eh, liar?
Perhaps he’s referring to the Wigan Times, tossed into his Mum’s front yard once a week…
He may be right in that the Times probably had some sort of article about ISIS recruitment numbers vs army recruitment numbers over a very specific period. For example, this articlesuggests that at one point ISIS were gaining 2000 foreign fighters a month (a small minority of which were from the West) for a maximum of about 30,000 or so.
So I’m sure that as long as you very carefully cherrypick your timeframe and metrics you might be able to find a point at which ISIS recruitment was larger than military recruitment, but such an approach would be easily debunked and make anyone using it look like a disingenuous tool.
Is the British military even recruiting? I mean, from what I understand, they’re fairly small and focus on long-term retention. How many fresh bodies do they even need?
Well, they’re still running ads for the various UK military branches so I assume they must be recruiting somebody.
But how many? I mean, are they meeting recruitment quotas?
From Wikipedia:
With a population of about 61 million, that’s about 1 out of 305 citizens in uniform at any one time. Figuring a very generous ‘churn’ of 10%/year (many are 'regulars whom the military is a career), that’s about 20,000 new recruits, or 1 out of about every 3,000 people, needed to join the military.
No opinion offered, just added for the info.
Here’s his cite. I can’t access the whole article, but the headline relies on a deceptive statistic: the number of people who signed up for a particular military organization in a given time period, not the number enrolled in a particular military organization.
ISIS was fairly new when this headline came out, and yes, a terrible number of people signed up for it. It was a new opportunity for these terrible people to be terrible.
Meanwhile, the British military has been around for…awhile, I don’t have an exact number. Muslims who wanted to enroll in the British military and who were eligible to do so were presumably already enrolled. But the first couple of paragraphs of the article don’t mention how many of them there are.
Jefferson at this point is likely to dismiss me as a pointy-headed liberal trying to weasel out of admitting how terrible Muslims are, because it hurts his head to think that things might be complicated.
Typical bigot bait and switch. They say something bigoted or implies bigotry, but your the racist for calling them out on it.
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Well, like something that appeared on my FB feed a couple of days ago said;
“There are more than a billion muslims in the world. If they wanted you dead, you would be.”
I do not understand the troll-friendly moderation on this board. I suppose I never will.
310 years. Before that they were the English, Scottish etc militaries.
Current figures suggest there are about 650 serving Muslims in the British armed forces, mostly in the Army (roughly 50 each in the Navy and Air Force). Estimates suggest that 750 Muslims total went to fight for ISIS from the UK, but not all at the same time; a few hundred have returned for various reasons (including disillusionment) and of course several (50-60) have died. Estimates I can find from a year ago suggest 430-440 British fighters in Syria, most of which will be in ISIS.
Of course, when the Empire included more Muslim-heavy lands there were many more fighting for Britain…
Just stating a fact, pal. HE brought colour into it.
Starry, starry night
Paint your palette blue and gray
Look out on a summer’s day
With eyes that know the darkness in my soul
Shadows on the hills
Sketch the trees and the daffodils
Catch the breeze and the winter chills
In colors on the snowy linen land
Even I know that you’re supposed to credit the author when you copy his words.
Maybe its Melina Trump?
*you’re
Good point. You do know who started this thread don’t you?
Then again, this site if full of Left-wing trolls.
If it? I don’t think it if.