# Letters T-O-Y-O-T-A in the Toyota emblem **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 12, 2009, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letters-t-o-y-o-t-a-in-the-toyota-emblem/480921 "2009-01-12T16:16:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letters-t-o-y-o-t-a-in-the-toyota-emblem/480921/21 "2009-01-12T19:47:01Z")
> [@CAT\_1](#): > > I have the same ones!!! That was the first year I went to a game too. My bad, they were from [pizza hut](http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3285/2834020248_42fc6dd21c.jpg?v=0), not McDonalds. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letters-t-o-y-o-t-a-in-the-toyota-emblem/480921/22 "2009-01-12T19:52:53Z")
It was a **long** time before I figured out the Target logo. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letters-t-o-y-o-t-a-in-the-toyota-emblem/480921/23 "2009-01-12T20:01:57Z")
> [@silk1976](#): > > Kinda like the arrow in FedEx - completely coincidental and once you (or, at least _I_ see it, I can’t not see it anymore). > > Has anyone else seen all 6 letters of the word Toyota in their emblem? I thought that’s what Toyota was going for with its logo, but the company claims not. The website says, “In 1990, Toyota debuted the three overlapping Ellipses logo on American vehicles. The Toyota Ellipses symbolize the unification of the hearts of our customers and the heart of Toyota products. The background space represents Toyota’s technological advancement and the boundless opportunities ahead.” ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letters-t-o-y-o-t-a-in-the-toyota-emblem/480921/24 "2009-01-12T20:33:02Z")
> [@silk1976](#): > > Kinda like the arrow in FedEx - completely coincidental and once you (or, at least _I_ see it, I can’t not see it anymore). > > Has anyone else seen all 6 letters of the word Toyota in their emblem? Huh, never noticed that. Seems like it works in the Scion logo as well. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letters-t-o-y-o-t-a-in-the-toyota-emblem/480921/25 "2009-01-12T20:51:36Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I thought that’s what Toyota was going for with its logo, but the company claims not. The website says, “In 1990, Toyota debuted the three overlapping Ellipses logo on American vehicles. The Toyota Ellipses symbolize the unification of the hearts of our customers and the heart of Toyota products. The background space represents Toyota’s technological advancement and the boundless opportunities ahead.” That seems like typical WTF corporate nonsense. Not for one minute do I believe that they didn’t at least mean to make a stylized _T_. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letters-t-o-y-o-t-a-in-the-toyota-emblem/480921/26 "2009-01-12T21:36:12Z")
“This sweeping curve represents my anger at having to explain myself. The silver circle is the dildo I am ramming into your ass. The blue background is your ass.” ---
**Author:** ![Borborygmi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/borborygmi/32/217_2.png) [@Borborygmi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Borborygmi)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letters-t-o-y-o-t-a-in-the-toyota-emblem/480921/27 "2009-01-12T22:01:41Z")
“Oh, what a feeling!” ---
**Author:** ![silk1976](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@silk1976](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silk1976)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letters-t-o-y-o-t-a-in-the-toyota-emblem/480921/28 "2009-01-12T22:02:28Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Huh, never noticed that. Seems like it works in the Scion logo as well. I dont see the letters in the scion logo - especially the N. What am I missing? ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letters-t-o-y-o-t-a-in-the-toyota-emblem/480921/29 "2009-01-12T22:18:49Z")
> [@acsenray](#): > > That seems like typical WTF corporate nonsense. Not for one minute do I believe that they didn’t at least mean to make a stylized _T_. That’s what they said when they released the symbol. I have to say, I don’t see the letters in that except in a very awkward way. If they wanted the letters to be there they should have done a much better job. ---
**Author:** ![Cyberhwk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Cyberhwk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyberhwk)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letters-t-o-y-o-t-a-in-the-toyota-emblem/480921/30 "2009-01-12T23:43:30Z")
> [@ZipperJJ](#): > > I always thought that the [Detroit Tigers](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit_tigers#Uniforms_and_logos) logo could spell out “Detroit” in a weird way, but I’m wrong - it’s just a stylized D and nothing more. Our middle school started with a “D.” A teacher confiscated the entire baseball team’s hats because she was told Old English typeface was “gang related.” :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letters-t-o-y-o-t-a-in-the-toyota-emblem/480921/31 "2009-01-13T00:13:44Z")
A friend and I were stargazing a couple of weeks ago, and he noticed the Pleiades was the Subaru symbol. I’d never noticed it before. He asked if Subaru was the name of one of the stars, and I told him it wasn’t in Greek, but maybe in Japanese. We checked Wikipedia when we got back, and sure enough “Subaru” is the Japanese name for the Pleiades star cluster. Very cool! 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letters-t-o-y-o-t-a-in-the-toyota-emblem/480921/32 "2009-01-13T04:43:46Z")
> [@silk1976](#): > > I dont see the letters in the scion logo - especially the N. What am I missing? Here’s my best MSPaint interpretations: [S](http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v233/axpauction/?action=view¤t=s.jpg) [C](http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v233/axpauction/?action=view¤t=c1.jpg) or [C](http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v233/axpauction/?action=view¤t=c2.jpg) [I](http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v233/axpauction/?action=view¤t=i.jpg) [O](http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v233/axpauction/?action=view¤t=0.jpg) [N](http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v233/axpauction/?action=view¤t=n1.jpg) or [N](http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v233/axpauction/?action=view¤t=n2.jpg) or [N](http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v233/axpauction/?action=view¤t=n3.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letters-t-o-y-o-t-a-in-the-toyota-emblem/480921/33 "2009-01-13T05:15:24Z")
My thought was the squiggly for both the I and the S, and your first N for the N. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letters-t-o-y-o-t-a-in-the-toyota-emblem/480921/34 "2009-01-13T06:06:40Z")
> [@Gordon\_Urquhart](#): > > I’ve written on this Board about the revelation (to me) that, in addition to half of a happy face, the [Goodwill logo](http://tnjn.com/content/storyimage/2007/10/03/goodwill_logo.512.jpg) is a lowercase “g.” Well, they DO spell it out for you (literally) at the bottom of the logo. Kinda hard to miss that! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letters-t-o-y-o-t-a-in-the-toyota-emblem/480921/35 "2009-01-13T17:14:10Z")
The Honda logo is also doable. The “n” and “d” are lower case like on an 8-segment display. ---
**Author:** ![silk1976](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@silk1976](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silk1976)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letters-t-o-y-o-t-a-in-the-toyota-emblem/480921/36 "2009-01-13T17:15:46Z")
> [@bouv](#): > > Here’s my best MSPaint interpretations: > > [S](http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v233/axpauction/?action=view¤t=s.jpg) > [C](http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v233/axpauction/?action=view¤t=c1.jpg) or [C](http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v233/axpauction/?action=view¤t=c2.jpg) > [I](http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v233/axpauction/?action=view¤t=i.jpg) > [O](http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v233/axpauction/?action=view¤t=0.jpg) > [N](http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v233/axpauction/?action=view¤t=n1.jpg) or [N](http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v233/axpauction/?action=view¤t=n2.jpg) or [N](http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v233/axpauction/?action=view¤t=n3.jpg) Wow - you’d have to be crazy to think that those letters are legit! :rolleyes: Not nearly as straight forward as, say, TOYOTA 😛 Dear pot, Stop calling me black Sincerely, Mr Kettle ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letters-t-o-y-o-t-a-in-the-toyota-emblem/480921/37 "2009-01-13T17:21:53Z")
> [@silk1976](#): > > The A is the biggest stretch, because all you have available to make the sides end up continuing on to fill out the circle. So you kinda have to ignore the fact that the lines representing the / and \ dont just stop at the appropriate spot for an A. > > I thought the Y was the easiest of them, actually. It just has an extra wide vertical component. No, the A is the easiest to see, after the T. it is smaller than the rest, and in the middle of the logo. ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letters-t-o-y-o-t-a-in-the-toyota-emblem/480921/38 "2009-01-13T17:23:42Z")
The hidden arrow in the FedEx Logo is NOT coincidental. Here’s an interview with its creator. Cite: [The Sneeze - Half zine. Half blog. Half not good with fractions.](http://www.thesneeze.com/mt-archives/000273.php) Similarly, check out the arrow in the [amazon.com](http://amazon.com) logo. I always thought it was a smiley mouth, but it’s an arrow pointing from A to Z. ---
**Author:** ![Labdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/439d5e/32.png) [@Labdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labdad)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letters-t-o-y-o-t-a-in-the-toyota-emblem/480921/39 "2009-01-13T17:35:49Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > “In 1990, Toyota debuted the three overlapping Ellipses logo on American vehicles. The Toyota Ellipses symbolize the unification of the hearts of our customers and the heart of Toyota products. The background space represents Toyota’s technological advancement and the boundless opportunities ahead.” Oh, nonsense! It’s a man in a sombrero! ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letters-t-o-y-o-t-a-in-the-toyota-emblem/480921/40 "2009-01-13T18:02:11Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > The Honda logo is also doable. The “n” and “d” are lower case like on an 8-segment display. Regarding the Honda logo, I like how the Acura logo is the same thing, only very slightly modified. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letters-t-o-y-o-t-a-in-the-toyota-emblem/480921.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/letters-t-o-y-o-t-a-in-the-toyota-emblem/480921.md?page=3)