# Leverage on TNT: what a bucket of suck!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leverage-on-tnt-what-a-bucket-of-suck/476416>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 9, 2008, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leverage-on-tnt-what-a-bucket-of-suck/476416 "2008-12-09T17:21:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Leiko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Leiko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leiko)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leverage-on-tnt-what-a-bucket-of-suck/476416/21 "2008-12-10T00:49:06Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Sarah Alexander was in _Stardust_ last year (in heavy makeup, easy to miss her) and I recognized Ben Miles in some Masterpiece Theater period piece. Jeff and Sally are the only two I haven’t seen in anything else.

Probably the Masterpiece Theater thing was “From Lark Rise to Candleford.” I haven’t watched it, but I’ve heard good things.

On topic, I haven’t gotten to watch Leverage yet\*, but my mother (who has similar taste in television to me) said it was really fun, and she’s taped it for me so when I get home for Christmas break I can watch it myself. Frankly, though, it’s a show that could have hideous dialogue and almost zero plot and I’d still watch it just for Timothy Hutton and Christian Kane.

\*I decided I couldn’t give it a fair trial if I spent the entire show working on my finals.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leverage-on-tnt-what-a-bucket-of-suck/476416/22 "2008-12-10T04:10:55Z")

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> [@Bridget\_Burke](#):
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> (What do you mean by “even on cable”? _Mad Men_ is a cable show. No, I hardly expect _Leverage_ to rise to those heights. But there are damn few news shows I bother to watch–on the networks & on cable.)

I didn’t mean to impugn the quality of cable shows (I like a lot of cable series) - it was in context of my prediction that the show would be cancelled shortly. It is my understanding that cable shows have a much smaller audience share than network shows, and thus do not require as large an audience to survive. Does that make sense?

Of course, as the responses here show, I may be wrong about that since many people seem to like it and mileage clearly varies.

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**Author:** ![firstname](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7ab992/32.png) [@firstname](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/firstname)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leverage-on-tnt-what-a-bucket-of-suck/476416/23 "2008-12-10T06:19:53Z")

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I’m surprised no-one has said how much of a ripoff from the British show Hustle this is. Personally i thought it (leverage) was mediocre, I didn’t think it was horrible though, certainly watchable even though i winced at a few of the parts that seemed silly. Hustle is a brilliant show though, I’d recommend it to all.

Also I only watched the first episode of Mad Men and was pretty indifferent towards it, should I get it another shot?

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leverage-on-tnt-what-a-bucket-of-suck/476416/24 "2008-12-10T07:01:13Z")

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> [@firstname](#):
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> I’m surprised no-one has said how much of a ripoff from the British show Hustle this is.

I’d say it’s more like Hustle meets Burn Notice. And I’m not sure there was really that much of a con game in the second episode.

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**Author:** ![Prelude\_to\_Fascination](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Prelude\_to\_Fascination](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prelude_to_Fascination)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leverage-on-tnt-what-a-bucket-of-suck/476416/25 "2008-12-10T14:03:39Z")

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> [@firstname](#):
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> I’m surprised no-one has said how much of a ripoff from the British show Hustle this is. Personally i thought it (leverage) was mediocre, I didn’t think it was horrible though, certainly watchable even though i winced at a few of the parts that seemed silly. Hustle is a brilliant show though, I’d recommend it to all.
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> Also I only watched the first episode of Mad Men and was pretty indifferent towards it, should I get it another shot?

I thought that from the preview, and taped it, but I’m just getting to the first episode today.

It does strike me as an Americanized Hu$tle. Not that that’s so bad, but Hu$tle was a great show. I’ll still give it a fair chance though.

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**Author:** ![clarkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/439d5e/32.png) [@clarkstar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clarkstar)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leverage-on-tnt-what-a-bucket-of-suck/476416/26 "2008-12-11T14:22:52Z")

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> [@Katriona](#):
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> 😕He wasn’t in The Outsiders. Are you thinking of Taps?
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> [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000459/](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000459/)

heh i had him confused with C Thomas Howell, my bad. i actually kinda like Timothy Hutton as an actor. too bad the show sucks :dubious:

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**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leverage-on-tnt-what-a-bucket-of-suck/476416/27 "2008-12-11T22:45:33Z")

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We’ve seen the pilot and the first show, and we thought it was amusing for what it was. Sort of a MISSION IMPOSSIBLE, lightweight, mindless, fun… although a bit predictable. Not great TV, but not unwatchable, neither.

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**Author:** ![drillrod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@drillrod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drillrod)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leverage-on-tnt-what-a-bucket-of-suck/476416/28 "2008-12-12T17:18:33Z")

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Well, my family likes it. It isn’t great drama or anything, but it’s fun.

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**Author:** ![Sycorax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a4c791/32.png) [@Sycorax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sycorax)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leverage-on-tnt-what-a-bucket-of-suck/476416/29 "2008-12-18T00:44:51Z")

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I didn’t know about Leverage till a few days ago, and I just watched my recording of it tonight – not sure what number ep – about race horses. I liked it – I thought of it as a poor man’s Mission Impossible. I like complicated relationships and plots. Although it’s not on my must-see list at this point, I’ll keep watching.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/leverage-on-tnt-what-a-bucket-of-suck/476416/30 "2008-12-18T01:50:55Z")

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Well, I still think it sucks.

😛

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