# Levi's Stadium Guards Demanding Wallets **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 14, 2015, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/levis-stadium-guards-demanding-wallets/731172 "2015-09-14T02:50:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/levis-stadium-guards-demanding-wallets/731172/21 "2015-09-14T17:04:06Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Private guards on private property? Yeah, they can do pretty much whatever they want as long as they don’t keep the wallets, take anything from the wallets, or add anything to the wallets, AFAIK. Another reason to never enter a Walmart in the U.S. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/levis-stadium-guards-demanding-wallets/731172/22 "2015-09-14T17:55:07Z")
> [@Claverhouse](#): > > By now he could smuggle in the parts for a drone, assemble it in his lunch-break, add some loot, set it by a window, and leave it to an accomplice to control from a distance… > Hopefully the guards would have no shotguns to keep their flock in check. So, sorta the reverse Psychobilly Cadillac? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/levis-stadium-guards-demanding-wallets/731172/23 "2015-09-14T18:04:25Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Yeah, three events at high schools and one from Brazil isn’t great reason to start policing this at NFL games. [NFL Stadium Bag Policy](http://www.nfl.com/qs/allclear/index.jsp) > [@](#): > > Bags that are clear plastic, vinyl or PVC and do not exceed 12" x 6" x 12." (**Official NFL team logo clear plastic tote bags will be available through club merchandise outlets or at [nflshop.com](http://nflshop.com)**/allclear), or > > One-gallon clear plastic freezer bag (Ziploc bag or similar). > Small clutch bags, approximately the size of a hand, with or without a handle or strap can be taken into the stadium with one of the clear plastic bags. > > An exception will be made for medically necessary items after proper inspection at a gate designated for this purpose. Think that might be the reason for the policy? ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/levis-stadium-guards-demanding-wallets/731172/24 "2015-09-14T18:11:08Z")
Maybe they just want to see how much cash people are bringing into the gam and then raise concessions so that they don’t leave with any. ---
**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/levis-stadium-guards-demanding-wallets/731172/25 "2015-09-14T18:34:07Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > [NFL Stadium Bag Policy](http://www.nfl.com/qs/allclear/index.jsp) > > Think that might be the reason for the policy? Yes, because there is no difference between demanding a wallet from a pocket, and an abnormally heavy violin case. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/levis-stadium-guards-demanding-wallets/731172/26 "2015-09-14T21:15:26Z")
I’d like to know the rationale behind wallet searches too. Anything that would fit in one would also fit in your shoe. Is that next? Back in the 80’s, I took a train from college to NYC to stay with a friend. On a whim, I jumped on the subway up to Yankee stadium. Even though I had large duffle bag on my back, I bought a ticket and walked right on in, unmolested. I guess I could have had a sniper rifle in there, so maybe that level of scrutiny was too lax. But wallets now? GTFO. ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/levis-stadium-guards-demanding-wallets/731172/27 "2015-09-14T21:54:10Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > So, sorta the reverse Psychobilly Cadillac? Are you talking low flying planes? ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/levis-stadium-guards-demanding-wallets/731172/28 "2015-09-14T23:02:10Z")
It’s possible the story in Ars Technica is wrong, since it seems to be the only source. Do we have any other source that says that wallets were searched? ---
**Author:** ![DataX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@DataX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DataX)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/levis-stadium-guards-demanding-wallets/731172/29 "2015-09-14T23:34:35Z")
I’m gonna go out on a limb and assume that ARS is sensationalizing one aspect of their security procedures. I get that there are credit card knifes. There are also regular knives - as other posters point out - that can be easily concealed upon a person. I’m assuming they aren’t just checking the wallet (and would likely piss off people if they just said “no that case marked ‘glock’ is fine - just give me your wallet”). That makes no sense. Of course you can buy (or make) - very sharp knives that contain no metal and would be easy to bring into a game unless they are using those airport machines. Of course the NFL has in the past cooperated with the FBI in scanning people with facial recognition - so maybe there is something sinister going on. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/levis-stadium-guards-demanding-wallets/731172/30 "2015-09-14T23:57:09Z")
I’ve examined a couple of those folding plastic credit card knives. The prospective stabber would be better served by gathering materials inside the stadium and constructing a prison-style shiv. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2015, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/levis-stadium-guards-demanding-wallets/731172/31 "2015-09-15T00:46:16Z")
How long until they start checking buttholes for contraband, like in prison? ---
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2015, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/levis-stadium-guards-demanding-wallets/731172/32 "2015-09-15T01:22:31Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > guard: “OK, kopek, now we’re retired and it doesn’t matter any more, what were you stealing all those years?” > > kopek: “Wallets.” \ Actually I had to explain to them why I have 23 membership cards and no credit cards except for one BP gas card. They found that so unusual that they had to kick it up to the building manager. That and the dozen of so multi-million and trillion dollar notes I always carry — from Zimbabwe. My building manager has been known to refer to me as “Oh ----- him.” :o ---
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2015, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/levis-stadium-guards-demanding-wallets/731172/33 "2015-09-15T01:26:47Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > I’d like to know the rationale behind wallet searches too. Anything that would fit in one would also fit in your shoe. Is that next? At work its about theft of gift cards and stuff but I am guessing at stadiums (and I’ve seen it at amusement parks) its some of the holsters out there made to look like wallets. The legality of such things is questionable but they are pretty common and easy to get for the usual over-under derringers. ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2015, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/levis-stadium-guards-demanding-wallets/731172/34 "2015-09-15T22:21:54Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > In a workplace, I could see it, since you’re concerned that people are stealing stuff. (Although what can you steal in a warehouse that you could fit in your wallet?) My nephew worked for Amazon for a bit. The most commonly stolen high-value item? Gift cards. He says people were fired almost daily for trying to walk out with high denomination cards for various places. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2015, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/levis-stadium-guards-demanding-wallets/731172/35 "2015-09-15T22:51:00Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Yes, but we’re talking about an NFL stadium in Silicon Valley. The only people who can afford seats are yuppies, who are not known for their violent tendencies. What if they’re all Patrick Batemans, huh? Didja think of that? Huh? Didja? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2015, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/levis-stadium-guards-demanding-wallets/731172/36 "2015-09-15T23:13:26Z")
Can you get a trick wallet that snaps a rattrap on whoever opens it? ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/levis-stadium-guards-demanding-wallets/731172/37 "2015-09-16T02:29:49Z")
> [@kopek](#): > > At work its about theft of gift cards and stuff but I am guessing at stadiums (and I’ve seen it at amusement parks) its some of the holsters out there made to look like wallets. The legality of such things is questionable but they are pretty common and easy to get for the usual over-under derringers. But unless they’re doing pat downs, they won’t know you haven’t turned over all your wallets. Of course, by the same token, they won’t know about the credit card knife tucked into your sock. ---
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/levis-stadium-guards-demanding-wallets/731172/38 "2015-09-16T14:39:33Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > But unless they’re doing pat downs, they won’t know you haven’t turned over all your wallets. Of course, by the same token, they won’t know about the credit card knife tucked into your sock. Parks these days are using TSA-like metal detectors and then follow that up with a wand or (in some cases) a pat-down or refusal to admit you. Wallets they will check visually and/or ask you to open it so they can look in. The way they have the things tuned, it is more density than just the metal involved - a plastic snuff can will set off the detector just as surely as a knife would - so even a lot of the plastic weapons will get found. I haven’t tried one of those credit card knives but since I know a few of the security people at one local park I’m tempted to ask them or try it. ---
**Author:** ![Carryon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc29f/32.png) [@Carryon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carryon)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/levis-stadium-guards-demanding-wallets/731172/39 "2015-09-16T15:26:36Z")
> [@epbrown01](#): > > My nephew worked for Amazon for a bit. The most commonly stolen high-value item? Gift cards. He says people were fired almost daily for trying to walk out with high denomination cards for various places. How does that work? They are preactivated? ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/levis-stadium-guards-demanding-wallets/731172/40 "2015-09-16T16:02:43Z")
> [@kopek](#): > > Parks these days are using TSA-like metal detectors and then follow that up with a wand or (in some cases) a pat-down or refusal to admit you. Wallets they will check visually and/or ask you to open it so they can look in. The way they have the things tuned, it is more density than just the metal involved - a plastic snuff can will set off the detector just as surely as a knife would - so even a lot of the plastic weapons will get found. I haven’t tried one of those credit card knives but since I know a few of the security people at one local park I’m tempted to ask them or try it. I doubt this is true, as far as I know no such density detector exists. If you mean the full body “nude” milimeter scanners the TSA uses, those are really expensive and have a viewer in another area. I doubt sporting events can afford them, and roll them out with no outcry. The wallet searching makes no sense because anything small enough to conceal in a wallet could just be secreted on your person. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/levis-stadium-guards-demanding-wallets/731172.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/levis-stadium-guards-demanding-wallets/731172.md?page=3)