# LiAngelo Ball (basketball player) arrested in China

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [November 8, 2017, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liangelo-ball-basketball-player-arrested-in-china/801036 "2017-11-08T07:48:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liangelo-ball-basketball-player-arrested-in-china/801036/21 "2017-11-13T05:20:09Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> Another question: How long can UCLA continue to pay for the hotel room while Ball and his teammates await the results of the investigation and potential trial? I assume it wouldn’t be a violation of NCAA rules if the Ball family paid for the room if the Chinese choose to drag out the investigation and take the case to trial.

This kid drives a Lambo to class. He is a star in a reality program. He is the perfect entitled kid; the sad thing is he took down two other kids.

As a UCLA alum; I hope they give all three a 2nd chance. I am sure all three are getting the scare of a lifetime. What good would expulsion do for anyone?

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liangelo-ball-basketball-player-arrested-in-china/801036/22 "2017-11-13T05:24:26Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> This kid drives a Lambo to class. He is a star in a reality program. He is the perfect entitled kid; the sad thing is he took down two other kids.
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> As a UCLA alum; I hope they give all three a 2nd chance. I am sure all three are getting the scare of a lifetime. What good would expulsion do for anyone?

[Mistakes.](https://despair.com/collections/posters/products/mistakes)

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liangelo-ball-basketball-player-arrested-in-china/801036/23 "2017-11-13T10:18:26Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> [Mistakes.](https://despair.com/collections/posters/products/mistakes)

For Ball maybe. But the other two have great futures in basketball. Its amazingly stupid that they would go on a shoplifting spree in a foreign country. Its a property crime. May we save expulsion for physical crimes like sexual assault or battery.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liangelo-ball-basketball-player-arrested-in-china/801036/24 "2017-11-13T10:22:03Z")

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Other American collegiates shoplifting in Asia:

> **[U.S. College Band Accused of Shoplifting in Japan (Published 1992)](https://www.nytimes.com/1992/12/16/world/us-college-band-accused-of-shoplifting-in-japan.html)**

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liangelo-ball-basketball-player-arrested-in-china/801036/25 "2017-11-13T20:10:24Z")

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Actually, IJSHTBAEOAL (I Just So Happen To Be An Expert On Asian Law), and I believe LiAngelo Ball will be subject to about 600 cane lashings across his back, his face, his stomach and his groin and then will get the crab trap treatment, half-submerged in leech-infested waters, but for not too long, though - maybe 96 hours, tops.

I find it’s pretty transparent around here that most people have a problem with the Ball family simply because (k - let’s fess up, sheeple) none of you can get hair like Lonzo Ball’s.  
Hey - I wish I could. Might look a little jarring, but would definitely put a cap on my hair issues.

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liangelo-ball-basketball-player-arrested-in-china/801036/26 "2017-11-13T20:17:08Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> Actually, IJSHTBAEOAL (I Just So Happen To Be An Expert On Asian Law), and I believe LiAngelo Ball will be subject to about 600 cane lashings across his back, his face, his stomach and his groin and then will get the crab trap treatment, half-submerged in leech-infested waters, but for not too long, though - maybe 96 hours, tops.
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> I find it’s pretty transparent around here that most people have a problem with the Ball family simply because (k - let’s fess up, sheeple)\*\* none of you can get hair like Lonzo Ball’s.\*\*  
> Hey - I wish I could. Might look a little jarring, but would definitely put a cap on my hair issues.

For which I thank the God I don’t believe in.

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liangelo-ball-basketball-player-arrested-in-china/801036/27 "2017-11-13T20:56:07Z")

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Trump has asked the Chinese Great Leader to intervene on the players behalf according to the WashPost.

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**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liangelo-ball-basketball-player-arrested-in-china/801036/28 "2017-11-14T19:52:04Z")

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It worked!!! President Xi took care of it. It’s fortunate that the diplomatic conference gave the two leaders an opportunity to get this straightened out.

They are headed home!

> **[3 UCLA basketball players arrested in China arrive back in US | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/14/sport/ucla-basketball-players-leave-china/index.html)**
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> Three UCLA basketball players accused of shoplifting in China last week arrived back back in Los Angeles on Tuesday, authorities said.

I hope this has taught them a lesson.

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**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liangelo-ball-basketball-player-arrested-in-china/801036/29 "2017-11-14T21:02:46Z")

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Maybe we can organize the Ball family to take a ‘goodwill’ trip to North Korea.

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**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liangelo-ball-basketball-player-arrested-in-china/801036/30 "2017-11-14T21:05:11Z")

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I have mixed feelings that the Presidents of the world’s larger nation’s intervened in a shoplifting case.

I would have no problem with the students serving a short sentence similar to California law.

News reports indicated China’s law is much harsher. This case could have been a thorn in US-China relations for months. It’s better to get it settled. Our state department has much bigger issues to negotiate with China.

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**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liangelo-ball-basketball-player-arrested-in-china/801036/31 "2017-11-14T21:11:30Z")

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Coach Alford played for Bobby Knight at Indiana and the 1984 Olympic team. Alford won’t let this incident go unpunished. These knuckleheads embarrassed the school and Steve’s basketball program. They’ll be suspended for awhile. Imho

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**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liangelo-ball-basketball-player-arrested-in-china/801036/32 "2017-11-14T21:41:03Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> I hope this has taught them a lesson.

Hahahaha, of course it won’t.

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**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liangelo-ball-basketball-player-arrested-in-china/801036/33 "2017-11-14T22:52:20Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> Coach Alford played for Bobby Knight at Indiana and the 1984 Olympic team. Alford won’t let this incident go unpunished. These knuckleheads embarrassed the school and Steve’s basketball program. They’ll be suspended for awhile. Imho

Steve Alford tried to dissuade a rape victim from pursuing criminal charges against one of his players when he was the Iowa coach. He’s no shining beacon of discipline.

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**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liangelo-ball-basketball-player-arrested-in-china/801036/34 "2017-11-14T23:07:58Z")

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I haven’t followed Steve’s career since college. I know his dad, Sam was a high school coach and Steve played for a notoriously demanding coach.

I guess Steve’s years coaching changed his priorities.

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**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liangelo-ball-basketball-player-arrested-in-china/801036/35 "2017-11-14T23:17:32Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> Hahahaha, of course it won’t.

Of course he learned a lesson: Consequences are for little people.

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liangelo-ball-basketball-player-arrested-in-china/801036/36 "2017-11-15T01:39:06Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Of course he learned a lesson: Consequences are for little people.

Muggsy Bogues?

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liangelo-ball-basketball-player-arrested-in-china/801036/37 "2017-11-15T01:52:50Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Muggsy Bogues?

One of the most over-looked players in the history of the NBA.

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liangelo-ball-basketball-player-arrested-in-china/801036/38 "2017-11-15T19:27:59Z")

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So today it was announced the three were receiving “indefinite suspension” which could either be quite long or could be one game Mike Krzyzewski style…

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liangelo-ball-basketball-player-arrested-in-china/801036/39 "2017-11-15T20:27:33Z")

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I’ll assume indefinite suspension means all the games before conference season begins.

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liangelo-ball-basketball-player-arrested-in-china/801036/40 "2017-11-15T20:44:21Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> I’ll assume indefinite suspension means all the games before conference season begins.

That’s actually my guess too, and probably neatly aligns with the school calendar (UCLA’s fall quarter ends December 15, winter quarter begins January 3). They’re probably thinking it’ll give enough time for the attention to settle down and get the players back for the meat of the schedule.

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