# Liberal. Did they kick you out ?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 13, 2009, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255 "2009-05-13T04:30:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/221 "2009-05-18T03:08:58Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> I have to have the way I’ve defined “aesthetics” accepted in order to go forward.

In the same manner as which you define the word “liberal”?

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**Author:** ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/222 "2009-05-18T04:25:03Z")

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> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#):
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> You must have cared very much as a lot of moments have passed since your introduction into this thread.
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> And so now your bored ? You really need to get a life to take you away from this now boring thread.

Hey. Wait a minute. I thought you were done with me because I was worthless?

Go on. Admit it. You love me and can’t get enough of me. I kind of grow on you like mould on bread.

And we both think Liberal is a putz.

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**Author:** ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/223 "2009-05-18T04:27:33Z")

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> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#):
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> Jesus only approves the King James version of the bible which contains Oxford English spelling.

HA HA.

I’m sure that is true of the blonde haired, blue eyed, American Jesus anyway.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_Wright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Steve\_Wright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_Wright)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/224 "2009-05-18T10:36:42Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> My buddy **Steve Wright** who read 'em in the original Greek in response to a similar question (on another board) by me said:
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> 😃
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> And if it’s a choice of trusting Lib or **Steve** , um…there’s really no choice actually.

Bloomin’ 'eck, I’m gone but not forgotten …

Actually … this is my first visit to the boards in a while … and what do I find? A thread full of **Liberal** -related drama that grows new pages while I watch! Bitching about the board software! And (in other threads) **Carol Stream** being, well, **Carol Stream** (than which there is no worse insult imaginable).

It’s like I was never gone. Thank goodness there’s one fixed point in a changing world!

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/225 "2009-05-18T12:00:33Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> In the same manner as which you define the word “liberal”?

I define “liberal” the way von Mises and Hayek (and a large portion of the world) define it. You can, as you know, see the thread to determine how I define “aesthetics”.

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**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/226 "2009-05-18T13:31:22Z")

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> [@Seven](#):
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> Hey. Wait a minute. I thought you were done with me because I was worthless?
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> Go on. Admit it. You love me and can’t get enough of me. I kind of grow on you like mould on bread.

My anger towards you has subsided to a mild form of pity. You seem to be handicapped by an inability to properly interpret the emotions and intentions of posters that have engaged you. I do not love you. Sorry.

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> And we both think Liberal is a putz.

Perhaps, but for me it is in a respectfull sort of way. It is not uncommon for geniuses to experience difficulties socially.

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/227 "2009-05-18T14:11:52Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> I define “liberal” the way von Mises and Hayek (and a large portion of the world) define it. You can, as you know, see the thread to determine how I define “aesthetics”.

But not the English speaking modern western political world. Pre collapse soviet union maybe, but not 21st century America. But other than that you have a…nah you still don’t have a point.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/228 "2009-05-18T14:36:03Z")

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> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#):
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> It is not uncommon for geniuses to experience difficulties socially.

It is far less uncommon for someone who experiences difficulties socially to just be a bit of a twat.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/229 "2009-05-18T15:20:03Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> It is far less uncommon for someone who experiences difficulties socially to just be a bit of a twat.

That explains virtually all of the posts in this thread.

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**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/230 "2009-05-18T15:45:25Z")

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> [@Lord\_Ashtar](#):
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> That explains virtually all of the posts in this thread.

What’s a twat?

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/231 "2009-05-18T16:04:16Z")

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> [@mangeorge](#):
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> What’s a twat?

[It’s British slang.](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=twat)

I listen to too much BBC.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/232 "2009-05-18T16:43:03Z")

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> [@askeptic](#):
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> But not the English speaking modern western political world. Pre collapse soviet union maybe, but not 21st century America. But other than that you have a…nah you still don’t have a point.

Well, God Bless America. But I suggest that you actually research liberalism, and you will find that there are many many varieties worldwide. But central to most (except in God Bless America) is the notion of liberty, individual rights, and minimal government intervention.

After all, “liberal” and “liberty” both come from the Latin “liber” — meaning freedom.

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**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/233 "2009-05-18T16:46:02Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> [It’s British slang.](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=twat)
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> I listen to too much BBC.

So do I.  
But when I was younger, and while I was in the Navy, it only meant vagina.

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/234 "2009-05-18T16:47:58Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> Well, God Bless America. But I suggest that you actually research liberalism, and you will find that there are many many varieties worldwide. But central to most (except in God Bless America) is the notion of liberty, individual rights, and minimal government intervention.
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> After all, “liberal” and “liberty” both come from the Latin “liber” — meaning freedom.

So does Libertarian. What was your former name again? Oh yeah, it was Libertarian. I guess that was too clear…

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**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/235 "2009-05-18T17:11:02Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> After all, “liberal” and “liberty” both come from the Latin “liber” — meaning freedom.

Etymology sucks, lexicon rules.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/236 "2009-05-18T20:07:23Z")

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I could use a little morpheme right now.

(Just had about a hundred skin tags removed.)

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**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/237 "2009-05-18T22:02:02Z")

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At first I thought you said “morphing”. I wondered what you might like to become. 😉

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**Author:** ![JimOfAllTrades](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@JimOfAllTrades](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JimOfAllTrades)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/238 "2009-05-18T22:06:27Z")

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Welcome back **Liberal**. I hope you get feeling better.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/239 "2009-05-18T22:21:09Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> I could use a little morpheme right now.
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> (Just had about a hundred skin tags removed.)

I take it the dermatologist wasn’t too worried about your infection, if he decided to perform elective surgery on you. Good deal.

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/240 "2009-05-18T22:46:06Z")

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> [@mangeorge](#):
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> At first I thought you said “morphing”. I wondered what you might like to become. 😉

I am still trying to figure out how a small linguistic unit that has semantic meaning is going to help him…

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