# Liberal. Did they kick you out ?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 13, 2009, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255 "2009-05-13T04:30:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/61 "2009-05-14T01:26:35Z")

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> [@Seven](#):
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> the guy is a douche.
> 
> I think it was Andrew Jackson who once said “You sir, are a white-trash, hillbilly, sociopathic, liar.”
> 
> (Not you Shodan.. Liberal)

Hey, you insensitive bastard. Per Lib"The rules need to revolve around _me_"eral, [All mentions of Andrew Indian Hater Jackson _must_ go in the Pit unless they discuss how he’s eeee-vil. Because it wouldn’t be fair to Lib if people discussed any aspect of ol’ Hickory other than that anywhere else](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=357198)

So you _take_ your comments and get yourself to the Pit you insensitive twat…oh…nevermind.

For a libertarian liberal, he sure needs a whole lot of special rules just to protect his oh-so-sensitive butthurt ass from any hint of disagreement. How many special rules did he try to demand from the (patient far beyond the call of duty) mods at Domebo? And here?

As far as I know, he’s the only poster here who’s ever whined until he got a special rule made for him regarding how no-one can mock his user-name anywhere (_ **including in the Pit** _) and there were like 8 spin-off threads that came out of the confusion that rule caused before [it was retracted](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=353003&highlight=liberaltarian)

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**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/62 "2009-05-14T01:35:00Z")

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I have never had a problem with Liberal, personally. But I have noticed a tendency for him to turn on people without provocation as far as I can see. For example, what he had to say about What Exit in this thread was uncalled for, and completely mischaracterizes what happened over at domebo. What Exit has been invaluable to the board for being a voice of reason and a calming influence while we have been trying to work out what kind of rules and guidelines we want to have over there. It’s great to have someone with a genuinely nice and friendly demeanor to help guide these discussions, and at no time have I seen What Exit ever trying to be anything but helpful to the posters and to the board in general. Any questioning he did of the sock rule was only in the interest of figuring out what the best solution was for the board, as far as I could tell, and Liberal’s sniping at him about it as though What Exit had it in for him personally is unfair.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/63 "2009-05-14T01:55:12Z")

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> [@Anduril](#):
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> Welcome back, Liberal.

Thank you. 🙂

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/64 "2009-05-14T01:57:54Z")

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Melinda Doolittle sucks!

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/65 "2009-05-14T02:01:55Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> Hey, you insensitive bastard. Per Lib"The rules need to revolve around _me_"eral, [All mentions of Andrew Indian Hater Jackson _must_ go in the Pit unless they discuss how he’s eeee-vil. Because it wouldn’t be fair to Lib if people discussed any aspect of ol’ Hickory other than that anywhere else](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=357198)

wow…you weren’t exaggerating.

That’s…that’s just hilarious!

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**Author:** ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/66 "2009-05-14T02:42:41Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> That’s the kind of shit Socrates was eventually executed for. I think the Athenians had been way too patient with him, actually.

Seriously. Socrates was an annoying asshole. He was just asking to be executed.

Hmm, wait a minute…

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**Author:** ![Jeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/67 "2009-05-14T03:31:59Z")

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> [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](#):
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> Seriously. Socrates was an annoying asshole. He was just asking to be executed.
> 
> Hmm, wait a minute…

Hey I was just reading his biography, and now you guys have totally ruined the ending. Use spoiler tags next time! :mad:

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/68 "2009-05-14T04:21:17Z")

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> [@sailor](#):
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> I see this more as comedy but my psychiatrist is working on that.

If you get a prescription, send me a copy, would ya?

> [@Jeff](#):
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> Hey I was just reading his biography, and now you guys have totally ruined the ending. Use spoiler tags next time! :mad:

But you already knew he was _dead_, right? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Tenebras](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@Tenebras](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tenebras)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/69 "2009-05-14T04:34:01Z")

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You didn’t know they killed him at the end? Out of curiosity, did you know that Julius Caesar

ruled Rome until he died, of old age at 72, cradled in the arms of his loving wife Calpurnia and ministered by his son Alexander the Great?

I’m trying to feel out what’s common knowledge and needs to be spoilered.

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**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/70 "2009-05-14T04:41:20Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> So the term “sock” is actually an abbreviation of “Socrates”?

You’re really not really not all that bright.

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/71 "2009-05-14T07:09:14Z")

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> [@](#):
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> **Sarahfeena** : I have noticed a tendency for him to turn on people without provocation as far as I can see.

“O wad some Power the giftie gie us to see oursels as ithers see us!” – Burns

It’s good to see you again, **Liberal** The meds can be a saving grace indeed. Sure am glad you’re back.

“And when the night is cloudy there is still a light that shines on me. Shine until tomorrow. Let it be.” – The Beatles

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**Author:** ![Jeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/72 "2009-05-14T07:26:15Z")

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> [@RedFury](#):
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> If you get a prescription, send me a copy, would ya?
> 
> But you already knew he was _dead_, right? :dubious:

How the hell would I know that? :(:(☹

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**Author:** ![bbs2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e495f1/32.png) [@bbs2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bbs2k)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/73 "2009-05-14T08:51:49Z")

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Liberal, _sigh_, if you want to go back to wearing your SDMB team jacket then I hope it’s something that will make you happy. Doing so does not mean you have to burn previous bridges to prove some bizarre loyalty.

The way you perceive these invisible slights against you is profoundly disturbing. I think you already know that though on some intellectual level.

Good luck.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/74 "2009-05-14T11:42:22Z")

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> [@Jeff](#):
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> How the hell would I know that? :(:(☹

Mark Twain’s question while touring the historical and artistic highlights of Europe:

Is he . . . dead?

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/75 "2009-05-14T12:34:45Z")

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> [@Zoe](#):
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> It’s good to see you again, **Liberal** The meds can be a saving grace indeed. Sure am glad you’re back.

Thanks, Zoe. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/76 "2009-05-14T14:07:19Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> That’s not a cite. That’s your crotch.

> [@Giraffe](#):
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> And wherever you go, there it is.

I would hope so, otherwise you are in for a really awkward situation.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/77 "2009-05-14T15:04:32Z")

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> [@pedescribe](#):
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> wow…you weren’t exaggerating.
> 
> That’s…that’s just hilarious!

How 'bout where being good at chess gets you a free pass from rabid [anti-semitism](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=267419) and a vigorous defense by Liberal? (Because Bobby Fisher is an artiste and that absolves him from when he calls for synagogues around the world to be burned–at least in Lib’s mind)

Or where he went apeshit over a (good) project, but when one poster asked [one question](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=88980), he bailed, yanked down the website he’d committed to keep up (after press releases were apparently sent out) and asked to be banned again. (This is after starting [a pit thread to complain that people weren’t jumping quickly enough at his command](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=88439) and [taking over another thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=87507) )

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/78 "2009-05-14T15:28:35Z")

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> [@](#):
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> =Really Not All That Bright  
> That’s not a cite. That’s your crotch.

[Quote=Giraffe]

And wherever you go, there it is.  
[/quote]

[QUOTE=Death of Rats]  
I would hope so, otherwise you are in for a really awkward situation.  
[/QUOTE]

It gets there well before the rest of me does. 😉

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/79 "2009-05-14T15:47:27Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> It gets there well before the rest of me does. 😉

Ew.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/80 "2009-05-14T16:35:29Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> Or where he went apeshit over a (good) project, but when one poster asked [one question](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=88980), he bailed, yanked down the website he’d committed to keep up (after press releases were apparently sent out) and asked to be banned again.

This really has nothing to do with your bashing campaign (which doesn’t bother me in the least, by the way. If you derive enjoyment from it, then I am delighted for you.) But it is tangentially related to the particular comment quoted, and I want to let people know who care about it. We lost the OurDawson website completely not quite a year ago. It was the decision of the child’s mother. (Dawson, some of you may recall, was our grandson who died of brain cancer.)

She requested that it be taken down because of hacking and because of heartbreakingly cruel comments left in the guestbook, which she couldn’t control because she had no FTP access to the site. My wife did most of the site maintenance, but with her new job and its two-hour commute, she could not deal with the site until weekends. But not every weekend was free. We often had family get togethers and whatnot. At any rate, several of you posted touching and beautiful remarks there that the mother (our daughter) has printed out and still cherishes. For this, many many thanks.

I think I do still have the Fred Phelps flash show, though. If anyone wants to see it and knows of a host that will host flash files, I’ll gladly post it for you.

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