# Liberal. Did they kick you out ?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 13, 2009, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255 "2009-05-13T04:30:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/81 "2009-05-14T16:37:46Z")

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> [@Jeff](#):
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> How the hell would I know that? :(:(☹

You could ask one of his contemporary pupils. Not sure where you’d find that Plato dude, but this whole thread is about the other one, **Lib**.

Then again, _all_ threads are about him.

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/82 "2009-05-14T17:05:39Z")

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> [@RedFury](#):
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> Not sure where you’d find that Plato dude, …

True. Walt Disney never talks about Mickey’s dog much any more. ☹

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/83 "2009-05-14T17:15:07Z")

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> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#):
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> I would hope so, otherwise you are in for a really awkward situation.

Yes, but I was speaking to **RNATB** re: **Elvis’** crotch… :eek:

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/84 "2009-05-14T19:00:03Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> Yes, but I was speaking to **RNATB** re: **Elvis’** crotch… :eek:

All the countless man-years, ingenuity, and expense applied to the development of computational technology and the Internet over literally generations, and this is its culminating achievement …

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/85 "2009-05-14T19:24:26Z")

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Yes, I think we can shut it all down now. In fact, the stars might start going out, one by one…

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/86 "2009-05-14T19:36:59Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> All the countless man-years, ingenuity, and expense applied to the development of computational technology and the Internet over literally generations, and this is its culminating achievement …

Well, that and Rick-rolling. Can’t believe you forgot that. 😛

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/87 "2009-05-14T19:47:12Z")

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> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
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> True. Walt Disney never talks about Mickey’s dog much any more. ☹

Sad indeed considering what a Sockratic masterpiece Pueblo Plato was.

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/88 "2009-05-14T19:58:04Z")

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Someone alert the media!

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/89 "2009-05-14T20:10:32Z")

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I thought Socrates was a Brazilian footballer? And didn’t Plato play for France, or was that Platini?

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/90 "2009-05-14T20:33:20Z")

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> [@ivan\_astikov](#):
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> I thought Socrates was a Brazilian footballer?..

Yup, back in the 80s. Best philosophical player I’ve ever seen. Went on to become Portugal’s Prime Minister IIRC.

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**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/91 "2009-05-14T22:23:19Z")

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> [@ivan\_astikov](#):
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> I thought Socrates was a Brazilian footballer? And didn’t Plato play for France, or was that Platini?

Sokrates scoring for Greece: [Monty Python Philosophy Football](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79vdlEcWxvM)

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/92 "2009-05-14T23:07:03Z")

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> [@Tenebras](#):
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> You didn’t know they killed him at the end? Out of curiosity, did you know that Julius Caesar
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> ruled Rome until he died, of old age at 72, cradled in the arms of his loving wife Calpurnia and ministered by his son Alexander the Great?
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> I’m trying to feel out what’s common knowledge and needs to be spoilered.

_In the arms of Caesar…fly away from here…_

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**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/93 "2009-05-15T00:41:58Z")

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All we are is dust in the wind, dude.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/94 "2009-05-15T01:01:27Z")

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Who will die within the next year or so.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/95 "2009-05-15T01:44:16Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Who will die within the next year or so.

Ooooh, that just _burrrrnns_! Didn’t think you had it in you, **Guin** …you badass girl, you!

Ready for a spanking? 😉

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/96 "2009-05-15T01:52:49Z")

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> [@RedFury](#):
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> Ooooh, that just _burrrrnns_! Didn’t think you had it in you, **Guin** …you badass girl, you!
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> Ready for a spanking? 😉

I got the time if you got the dime!

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/97 "2009-05-15T02:01:19Z")

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(I hate the time limit!)

In all seriousness, though, **Lib** , what on earth was your motive [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11140267&postcount=80)? Am I the only one who feels that he’s simply trying to use yet another personal tragedy to gain sympathy points? I want to express my condolences to his family. And yet…at the same time, I can’t help feel I’m being jerked around.

If that’s the case, **Liberal** , that’s absolutely disgusting. You did it with your brother’s death, with your own poor health, and it’s fucked up.

I don’t give a shit if I’m accused of piling on. This is one thing that REALLY is “beyond the pale.”

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**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/98 "2009-05-15T02:13:09Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> It’s Edlyn.

Well, it should be Edna.  
(Paraphrased old joke by somebody.) (Groucho?)  
Peace,  
mangeorge

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/99 "2009-05-15T08:57:01Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> In all seriousness, though, **Lib** , what on earth was your motive [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11140267&postcount=80)?

You may not have noticed, Guin, but among the dozens of repetitive yuk-yuks and drive-bys were a couple of welcoming well wishes. My “motive” was as I said in my post: to inform people who had left kind messages why it was all gone. Many of those messages were from Dopers. There were also people who aren’t posting in here, like TubaDiva and Polycarp, who had left very sweet posts. And they may be reading. Fenris brought up the site, and so I explained to those who care why it is gone. If you are not among those who care, then the post was not intended for you. The interpretations of my motives with respect to my brother, my grandson, and my mother and father too, I suppose, that some of you attribute to me are horrible and cruel. But I don’t care what you think. If you were not wondering what happened to OurDawson, then the post was not intended for you. If you are wondering whether you should express your sympathies, then the answer is no, you should not. You should write something biting. Something hateful. Something that is witty at the expense of me and my family. Nothing I am writing in here is intended for any of you. Just for a couple of well wishers, and a few lurkers.

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**Author:** ![Hamadryad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6de8d8/32.png) [@Hamadryad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamadryad)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-did-they-kick-you-out/496255/100 "2009-05-15T11:56:26Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> Nothing I am writing in here is intended for any of you. Just for a couple of well wishers, and a few lurkers.

Maybe one day the curtains will part, the angels will sing, the bells will chime and you’ll realize that on a public message board you’re writing to everyone, not just the few selected people from whom you’d like to see replies.

Ya’ sparkle-pretty drama princess.

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