# liberal media now? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 4, 2012, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-media-now/636712 "2012-10-04T16:50:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-media-now/636712/1 "2012-10-04T16:50:46Z")
I don’t hear any righties complaining about the liberal media bias this morning. How come? Did the media suddenly acquire fairness? Or did the Republicans finally have a good night? ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-media-now/636712/2 "2012-10-04T16:52:25Z")
No, Obama’s performance was SO BAD that even the communistic media have to acknowledge the truth :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-media-now/636712/3 "2012-10-04T16:53:27Z")
Or, they’re lowering expectations for the next debate. Take your pick. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-media-now/636712/4 "2012-10-04T16:57:20Z")
I must have missed the part of the debate where Obama ripped off his clothes and began babbling in tongues while banging his head against the floor. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-media-now/636712/5 "2012-10-04T17:05:26Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > I must have missed the part of the debate where Obama ripped off his clothes and began babbling in tongues while banging his head against the floor. That’s part of the inaugural ceremony, actually. (The private one that they don’t broadcast.) ---
**Author:** ![Anduril](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c0e974/32.png) [@Anduril](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anduril)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-media-now/636712/6 "2012-10-04T17:12:48Z")
They must have figured that even the most biased of the liberal media practicioners couldn’t have given Obama the win for the debate. So, while the liberal portion of the media did acknowledge that Romney won - it’s not because they’re fair. It’s because they couldn’t have possibly spun it any other way - even though some still try - Rachel Maddow calls it a draw. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-media-now/636712/7 "2012-10-04T17:47:36Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > Or, they’re lowering expectations for the next debate. Take your pick. I think a lot of the whooppiong on the right and the hand wringing on the left is the result of unrealistic expcations before the debate. I don’t recall Obama being very good during the Democratic primary debates and frankly debating McCain wasn’t very tough. ---
**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-media-now/636712/8 "2012-10-04T18:28:58Z")
We’ll have to see if the story in the media is more about Obama’s failure to attack what the left has identified as Romney’s debate lies or about the lies themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-media-now/636712/9 "2012-10-04T18:51:09Z")
Winning the debate doesn’t matter, it is who can win the debate spin…and Romney is going to get nailed for that because his slick performance was chock full of lies. He is being exposed as a snake-oil salesman, smooth talking and selling you bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-media-now/636712/10 "2012-10-04T18:51:53Z")
Actually, I looked at the NY Times: “Debate was unhelpful”. Well yeah, for the NY Times editorial slant it was an unhelpful debate. > **[Opinion | An Unhelpful Debate (Published 2012)](https://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/04/opinion/an-unhelpful-presidential-debate.html)** > > After 90 minutes, voters are left with as many questions for Mitt Romney and President Obama as they had before it started. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-media-now/636712/11 "2012-10-04T18:52:59Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > Winning the debate doesn’t matter, it is who can win the debate spin…and Romney is going to get nailed for that because his slick performance was chock full of lies. He is being exposed as a snake-oil salesman, smooth talking and selling you bullshit. There were a couple in there, but the fact checkers have only found 2 or 3, compared to tons of facts and figures Romney presented. If he flubbed a couple or has some wrong information that does not make his performance chock full of lies. Obama said far less of substances and also got dinged a few times by the fact checkers. ---
**Author:** ![howye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9adbd/32.png) [@howye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/howye)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-media-now/636712/12 "2012-10-04T18:53:46Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > Winning the debate doesn’t matter, it is who can win the debate spin…and Romney is going to get nailed for that because his slick performance was chock full of lies. He is being exposed as a snake-oil salesman, smooth talking and selling you bullshit. Gotta wonder if that was part of the O man’s strategy? Let Rommey be Romney as it were. The guy you like while he is selling you that heckuva deal on the lot, but when you get it home you find it is full of holes? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-media-now/636712/13 "2012-10-04T18:58:01Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > There were a couple in there, but the fact checkers have only found 2 or 3, compared to tons of facts and figures Romney presented. If he flubbed a couple or has some wrong information that does not make his performance chock full of lies. Obama said far less of substances and also got dinged a few times by the fact checkers. Wait, so does this mean you like the fact checkers now? It’s hard to keep up. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-media-now/636712/14 "2012-10-04T18:58:55Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > There were a couple in there, but the fact checkers have only found 2 or 3, compared to tons of facts and figures Romney presented. If he flubbed a couple or has some wrong information that does not make his performance chock full of lies. Obama said far less of substances and also got dinged a few times by the fact checkers. Wait a second. Romney innocently got wrong informaton? Did he not have enough time to check his figures? Like when he said about half of the green energy projects went belly up? He didn’t have time to check on that? Coupled with the insinuation that the whole thing was a corrupt effort to put money into the hands of his contributors? So that’s an “oopsy-daisy”? ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-media-now/636712/15 "2012-10-04T19:33:40Z")
> [@Anduril](#): > > They must have figured that even the most biased of the liberal media practicioners couldn’t have given Obama the win for the debate. So, while the liberal portion of the media did acknowledge that Romney won - it’s not because they’re fair. It’s because they couldn’t have possibly spun it any other way - even though some still try - Rachel Maddow calls it a draw. I think they were stunned Obama didn’t refute most of the Mitt lies last night. Very disappointing performance on the President’s part. Was he relying on factchecking shooting down Mitt post debate? Most viewers don’t bother with that stuff. I’ve heard some people call it a draw, including my wife, but as a former debate judge, I saw it as a clear win for Mitt. Obama, for example, never once refuted the $716 billion reduction of Medicare lie. I know it’s been blown down by factchecking and even by Clinton at the convention, but Obama needed to whack it, especially since it was so easy to do. ---
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-media-now/636712/16 "2012-10-04T20:36:02Z")
Well, it’s pretty hard to deny a complete ass kicking (and yes, that’s what it was) when it was viewed by about 58M people. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-media-now/636712/17 "2012-10-04T20:46:35Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Wait a second. Romney innocently got wrong informaton? Did he not have enough time to check his figures? Like when he said about half of the green energy projects went belly up? He didn’t have time to check on that? Coupled with the insinuation that the whole thing was a corrupt effort to put money into the hands of his contributors? So that’s an “oopsy-daisy”? And Obama didn’t check to find out if the $5 trillion tax cut number of the Medicare beneficiaries paying $6000 more was accurate? The good news is that I saw no “Pants on Fire” ratings for the debate. So all in all, they behaved themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-media-now/636712/18 "2012-10-04T20:47:45Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > There were a couple in there, but the fact checkers have only found 2 or 3, compared to tons of facts and figures Romney presented. [Actually it’s a bit more than 2 or 3.](http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/10/04/958801/at-last-nights-debate-romney-told-27-myths-in-38-minutes/?fb_action_ids=10151059046717353&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%7B%2210151059046717353%22%3A160654427407715%7D&action_type_map=%7B%2210151059046717353%22%3A%22og.likes%22%7D&action_ref_map=%5B%5D) ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-media-now/636712/19 "2012-10-04T21:13:25Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > Well, it’s pretty hard to deny a complete ass kicking (and yes, that’s what it was) when it was viewed by about 58M people. Well Snake Oil salesman are pretty good at convincing people about the garbage they are selling. ---
**Author:** ![Anduril](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c0e974/32.png) [@Anduril](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anduril)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-media-now/636712/20 "2012-10-04T21:17:25Z")
No. The Messiah didn’t lose the debate. The Messiah couldn’t lose ANYTHING. It all has to be because it’s part of his plan. Yes. That’s what it is. It’s his genius in action - we mortals are just too stupid to know it. Puhleeeze! Get over your man-crush. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-media-now/636712.md?page=2)