# Liberal media's stupid outrage of the day

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 26, 2016, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-medias-stupid-outrage-of-the-day/775672 "2016-12-26T23:37:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2016, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-medias-stupid-outrage-of-the-day/775672/1 "2016-12-26T23:37:56Z")

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[The RNC released this Christmas message](http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/26/outraged-critics-assume-rnc-meant-trump-not-jesus-/)

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> Over two millennia ago, a new hope was born into the world, a Savior who would offer the promise of salvation to all mankind. Just as the three wise men did on that night, this Christmas heralds a time to celebrate the good news of a new King. We hope Americans celebrating Christmas today will enjoy a day of festivities and a renewed closeness with family and friends.

Outraged liberal journalists and the twitterati were besides themselves with shock and horror. “They’re calling Trump a King”, came the cry. “Will they stop at nothing?”

As the article says, these people just don’t get Christianity. I’m an atheist and even I know that Christ is referred to by Christians as the New King.

Idiots.

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2016, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-medias-stupid-outrage-of-the-day/775672/2 "2016-12-26T23:50:58Z")

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I’m not outraged by it, but I think there’s a subtext there. When the RNC says “Savior” and “King” you aren’t just supposed to think of the Christ Child. Would the RNC have put out a Christmas message worded that way in 2015? Or even in 2008, after Obama was elected?

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2016, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-medias-stupid-outrage-of-the-day/775672/3 "2016-12-26T23:52:11Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> As the article says, these people just don’t get Christianity. I’m an atheist and even I know that Christ is referred to by Christians as the New King.

And I’m a Christian and I think the statement is confusing and poorly written, and it doesn’t require much twisting to think it’s somehow an allusion to Trump’s ascendancy.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2016, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-medias-stupid-outrage-of-the-day/775672/4 "2016-12-26T23:58:04Z")

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You would be hard-pressed to find three wise men nowadays.

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**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2016, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-medias-stupid-outrage-of-the-day/775672/5 "2016-12-26T23:59:12Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> And I’m a Christian and I think the statement is confusing and poorly written, and it doesn’t require much twisting to think it’s somehow an allusion to Trump’s ascendancy.

This, exactly.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-medias-stupid-outrage-of-the-day/775672/6 "2016-12-27T00:01:21Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> [The RNC released this Christmas message](http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/26/outraged-critics-assume-rnc-meant-trump-not-jesus-/)
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> Outraged liberal journalists and the twitterati were besides themselves with shock and horror. “They’re calling Trump a King”, came the cry. “Will they stop at nothing?”
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> As the article says, these people just don’t get Christianity. I’m an atheist and even I know that Christ is referred to by Christians as the New King.
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> Idiots.

I’ve never heard the phrase “New King” used to refer to Jesus. I’ve heard “King of the Jews” and “King of Isreal” but never “the new King”. [The Wikipedia page for Jesus doesn’t list or use the phrase anywhere](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus,_King_of_the_Jews). Googling only turns up stories about the RNC’s use of the phrase. Can you give some examples of Christian writing using the phrase “New King” to refer to Jesus?

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-medias-stupid-outrage-of-the-day/775672/7 "2016-12-27T00:05:17Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> You would be hard-pressed to find three wise men nowadays.

Not to mention a virgin.

This phrase

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> this Christmas heralds a time to celebrate the good news of a new King.

is quite troubling. A “new king”? “Good news”? I think not.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-medias-stupid-outrage-of-the-day/775672/8 "2016-12-27T00:05:59Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> And I’m a Christian and I think the statement is confusing and poorly written, and it doesn’t require much twisting to think it’s somehow an allusion to Trump’s ascendancy.

Same here.

I’ve never heard or seen Jesus referred to as the “New King” either.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-medias-stupid-outrage-of-the-day/775672/9 "2016-12-27T00:15:23Z")

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I’m not outraged, because my supply of outrage has not been replenished since I ran out several months ago. But, I’m hard pressed to see this as anything other than a reference to Trump. It’s saying that the world welcomed a king 2000 years ago, and a new king this year. Not that we’re commemorating Jesus for the 2000th year running, but that this year we’re welcoming a new king like the wise men did then.

What is it with the Republicans and Messiahs? They bitched when their fevered hallucinations of liberals compared Obama to the Messiah, and now they compare Trump to the Messiah.

Idiots.

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-medias-stupid-outrage-of-the-day/775672/10 "2016-12-27T00:21:24Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I’ve never heard the phrase “New King” used to refer to Jesus. …

Long time ago in Bethlehem  
So the Holy Bible say  
Mary’s Boy Child, Jesus Christ  
Was born on Christmas Day  
Hark, now hear the angels sing  
“New King’s born today  
And man will live forevermore  
Because of Christmas Day.”

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-medias-stupid-outrage-of-the-day/775672/11 "2016-12-27T00:23:11Z")

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What bother me about it is that this statement seems to assume the supremacy of Jesus Christ, when I expect political parties to be open to all.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-medias-stupid-outrage-of-the-day/775672/12 "2016-12-27T00:29:00Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> As the article says, these people just don’t get Christianity. I’m an atheist and even I know that Christ is referred to by Christians as the New King.

“Just as the three wise men did on that night, this Christmas heralds a time to celebrate the good news of Jesus.” Does this sentence make any sense to you?

Just like every reimagination of Trump’s latest outrageous remark, you have to turn the statement into illogical gibberish in order to make it inoffensive.

There’s nothing being heralded today, this Christmas, there is no news to speak of that has anything to do with Jesus. The only news today, the only new leader of any kind the RNC is happy about, is Trump. There is no logical way to read this that doesn’t refer to our President-elect.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-medias-stupid-outrage-of-the-day/775672/13 "2016-12-27T00:41:49Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> I’m not outraged, because my supply of outrage has not been replenished since I ran out several months ago. But, I’m hard pressed to see this as anything other than a reference to Trump. It’s saying that the world welcomed a king 2000 years ago, and a new king this year. Not that we’re commemorating Jesus for the 2000th year running, but that this year we’re welcoming a new king like the wise men did then.
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> What is it with the Republicans and Messiahs? They bitched when their fevered hallucinations of liberals compared Obama to the Messiah, and now they compare Trump to the Messiah.
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> Idiots.

I remember the whole Reagan-worship thing too. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-medias-stupid-outrage-of-the-day/775672/14 "2016-12-27T00:44:07Z")

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> [@Giles](#):
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> Long time ago in Bethlehem  
> So the Holy Bible say  
> Mary’s Boy Child, Jesus Christ  
> Was born on Christmas Day  
> Hark, now hear the angels sing  
> “New King’s born today  
> And man will live forevermore  
> Because of Christmas Day.”

That song’s saying there’s a king that’s new, because he was just born, not a “New King” like it’s a title or something the way “King of the Jews” is. Plus it’s just a construction for a song, not something scriptural or even doctrinal for any particular denomination.

Might as well bring up the New King James bible (a new version of the bible original commissioned by King James, not a bible about the “New King” commissioned by some ordinary guy named James).

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-medias-stupid-outrage-of-the-day/775672/15 "2016-12-27T00:46:33Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> What bother me about it is that this statement seems to assume the supremacy of Jesus Christ, when I expect political parties to be open to all.

By way of contrast, the RNC statement on Hanukkah said, “As our Jewish friends and family around the country gather to light the first candle, we hope they will enjoy a special time of closeness and joy this Hanukkah season. These eight nights serve as a reminder of how the Maccabees never gave up hope amidst danger and uncertainty, and each year the Festival of Lights is a time to reflect on the power of faith and perseverance. We wish a Happy Hanukkah to all who are gathering around the menorah, and pray this year’s festivities will be a time of celebration and blessings for our Jewish communities.”

BTW, it’s not just liberals who had a problem with the RNC statement. A [top aide to the Republican governor of Ohio tweeted](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/26/rnc-clarifies-part-christmas-message-after-social-media-criticism.html), “Dear RNC: We don’t have a “new King.” What the hell is wrong with you people? #TwoPaths #Vigilance”

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-medias-stupid-outrage-of-the-day/775672/16 "2016-12-27T00:58:04Z")

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> [@TBG](#):
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> That song’s saying there’s a king that’s new, because he was just born, not a “New King” like it’s a title or something the way “King of the Jews” is.

Right. And the RNC said:

> [@](#):
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> … this Christmas heralds a time to celebrate the good news of a new King. …

So they aren’t using “new King” as if it’s a title either – they are using in exactly the same way as the song I quoted.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-medias-stupid-outrage-of-the-day/775672/17 "2016-12-27T01:12:52Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> I’m an atheist and even I know that Christ is referred to by Christians as the New King.

If this tweet came from some Christian, or Christian-affiliated organization, then that might be the most likely interpretation. But what does it mean when the Republican National Committee uses the phrase “new King”?

> [@Bayard](#):
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> It’s saying that the world welcomed a king 2000 years ago, and a new king this year. Not that we’re commemorating Jesus for the 2000th year running, but that this year we’re welcoming a new king like the wise men did then.

2000 years, but he still has that new-King smell.

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**Author:** ![Flyer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyer/32/7298_2.png) [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-medias-stupid-outrage-of-the-day/775672/18 "2016-12-27T01:19:15Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I’ve never heard the phrase “New King” used to refer to Jesus. I’ve heard “King of the Jews” and “King of Isreal” but never “the new King”. [The Wikipedia page for Jesus doesn’t list or use the phrase anywhere](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus,_King_of_the_Jews). Googling only turns up stories about the RNC’s use of the phrase. Can you give some examples of Christian writing using the phrase “New King” to refer to Jesus?

> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> Same here.
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> I’ve never heard or seen Jesus referred to as the “New King” either.

Since God is eternal, it is common to refer to certain things in the present tense, even though they happened in the past. Have you people never heard of an incredibly popular song called “Joy to the World”?  
Joy to the world,  
The Lord **IS** come.

In addition, at Easter, we often say things like, “The Lord is risen.”

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-medias-stupid-outrage-of-the-day/775672/19 "2016-12-27T01:24:12Z")

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I’m not crazy about New King. I’ll stick with King Classic, thankyewverymuch. 😉

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2016, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-medias-stupid-outrage-of-the-day/775672/20 "2016-12-27T01:26:50Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> I’m not crazy about New King.

In fairness, Trump seems pretty enthusiastic about New King stuff.

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