# Liberal: Prove it or retract it **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 15, 2005, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314 "2005-06-15T02:21:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/1 "2005-06-15T02:21:19Z")
Liberal, in [this recent thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=319875) in post number 3 you said: > [@](#): > > there are a handful of people — always the same ones — who seem to make a point of dropping in whenever I post, drawing attention to me, and then declaring that I am drawing attention to myself. What I have always asked is, why can’t I post what I think and it be left at that? If EddyTeddyFreddy or Excalibre or Desmostylus pops in to quote me and hiss at me for what I’ve said, how is it that I am the one drawing the attention when I respond. So, **Liberal** , you’ve declared without ambiguity that I’m one of a group who regularly harass you, for no good reason. “Always the same ones…whenever I post” you said. Implying, as well, that this has been going on for a long time. Prove it. Prove your allegations. Cite the evidence. Show where over the last, say, six months, I’ve regularly quoted and hissed at you. Heck, make that a dozen examples from the last three months. That’s only one perniciously unjustified attack per week. Surely a poster such as you, with an 11+ per day post average, can easily come up with a paltry number like that? Prove what you said about me. No qualifiers, no weasel words, no hand-waving it away, no digressions. You said I regularly harass you. Produce the evidence. I’ll cede you one, the comments I made in the [Koran thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=319677) in the Pit. (And while you’re there, how about answering [this question?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6231323&postcount=92)) Come up with another dozen examples, another dozen threads where I’ve dogpiled you. Prove it, or admit you libeled me and apologize. Put up or shut up. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/2 "2005-06-15T02:33:36Z")
Aw crap, another one of _these_. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/3 "2005-06-15T02:44:18Z")
Yes, I know. I hesitated for several days over whether to even launch this thread, knowing full well why it would be annoying to you (and many others, I’m sure). It was reading **Lib’s** latest posts harping on the same dreary theme today that just pushed me over the edge. Feel free to dogpile me for opening it; I’m expecting some blowback. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/4 "2005-06-15T02:48:16Z")
:rolleyes: Big deal. Much ado about nothing. Everybody busts his balls. Are you upset that he singled you out? **Liberal** , I permit you to state that it was just a typo and you meant **Dio** , er, make that **Reeder**. No? How about **Hentor**? OK, just say it was me. Or better yet, just say it’s pretty much everyone on the Dope that busts your balls regularly and get this whiny rant over with. ---
**Author:** ![Stuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/5 "2005-06-15T02:53:43Z")
Am I missing a “sticky” that says **Liberal** must be pitted every 4.5 days? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/6 "2005-06-15T02:55:22Z")
> [@Stuffy](#): > > Am I missing a “sticky” that says **Liberal** must be pitted every 4.5 days? Doesn’t _anybody_ read the registration agreement? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/7 "2005-06-15T02:58:13Z")
> [@Stuffy](#): > > Am I missing a “sticky” that says **Liberal** must be pitted every 4.5 days? It was 4.5 when the board was free. Now you get a 10 percent discount on renewals if you help to up the average to 3.7. ---
**Author:** ![Lissa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lissa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissa)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/8 "2005-06-15T02:58:48Z")
This is simply a poster asking for someone to substantiate a claim that they feel is biased. Anyone of us, should, at any time, be able to back ourselves up. This is especially true when we go after another poster. If Liberal is wrong, he should admit it. There is nothing wrong with asking for this. If he can prove it, then eddy should admit he is wrong. End of story. ---
**Author:** ![imthjckaz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/imthjckaz/32/3223_2.png) [@imthjckaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/imthjckaz)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/9 "2005-06-15T03:12:36Z")
> [@Lissa](#): > > If Liberal is wrong, he should admit it. There is nothing wrong with asking for this. If he can prove it, then eddy should admit he is wrong. End of story. I agree. Lib should either put up or shut up. And if can substanciate his claims, eddy should admit she may be jumping on Lib a little too much. But then, who doesn’t jump on Lib for his pompousity. Or something. ---
**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/10 "2005-06-15T03:15:55Z")
Pompous? I say its more like Liberal is an enigma. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/11 "2005-06-15T03:17:41Z")
> [@Good Egg](#): > > I say its more like Liberal is an enigma… …wrapped in a riddle and smothered in secret sauce. ---
**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/12 "2005-06-15T03:18:58Z")
🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/13 "2005-06-15T03:24:25Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > …wrapped in a riddle and smothered in secret sauce. Secret sauce is thousand island dressing. That’s one mystery solved right there. As far as Liberal’s claim goes, there is some truth to it. Desmolytus used to stalk the hell out of him. I know I told him to knock it off in a thread. There’s also [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6257721&postcount=107) post in the freedom fries thread from Guin. It’s a little :rolleyes: imho. I’m not entirely sure that people are stalking him though. I would think that most just comes from reading the thread, seeing his post, and penis ensuing. I know. I know, but I’ve never used it before. I promise. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/14 "2005-06-15T03:25:02Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > …wrapped in a riddle and smothered in secret sauce. But don’t you get tired of picking all those sesame seeds out of your teeth afterwards? ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/15 "2005-06-15T03:25:38Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > …wrapped in a riddle and smothered in secret sauce. The secret sauce is Thousand Island dressing with just a _touch_ of Ayn Rand. ---
**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/16 "2005-06-15T03:26:03Z")
penis ensuing is sexist! ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/17 "2005-06-15T03:28:41Z")
> [@Harborwolf](#): > > As far as Liberal’s claim goes, there is some truth to it. Desmolytus used to stalk the hell out of him. I know I told him to knock it off in a thread. Oh, yes, **Desmo** definitely did stalk **Lib**. In fact, I called him on it – called the both of them on their childish incessant wrangling – [in this thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=271683) I’m specifically calling on **Lib** to back his claim that I’m one of the thuggish throng who’s perpetually attacking him. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/18 "2005-06-15T03:29:51Z")
I think **EddyTeddyFreddy** has a legitmate challenge. I was surprised myself when **Lib** used her name in that accusation. She is not known for hounding people. If I were **Lib** and I had made a false accusation against **ETF** , I would want it called to my attention and I would welcome the opportunity to make amends. ---
**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/19 "2005-06-15T03:31:15Z")
But _genitalia ensuing_ doesn’t…uh…roll off the tongue as nicely. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/20 "2005-06-15T03:41:00Z")
> [@Uvula Donor](#): > > But _genitalia ensuing_ doesn’t…uh…roll off the tongue as nicely. Sez you! [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314.md?page=2)