# Liberal:  Prove it or retract it

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 15, 2005, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314 "2005-06-15T02:21:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/101 "2005-06-15T19:59:45Z")

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> [@Jurph](#):
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> I followed the Presidential convoy to the US Naval Academy graduation, and I can assure you that when the President travels in D.C., he does so with a vanguard of tailgating SUVs. Does that count? 😃

SUVs _and_ tailgating? We have a winner! 😃

But wait – were they being driven by blonde soccer moms talking into cell phones? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/102 "2005-06-15T20:02:04Z")

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Well, obviously I meant cell phones manufactured by Dell, right?  
Right?

:: slinks away ::

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/103 "2005-06-15T20:13:05Z")

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_:::::wipes away tears of joy:::::barely manages to regain composure::::::_

Alright then, can we get back to more important matters? Like ME for instance.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/104 "2005-06-15T20:18:09Z")

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> [@RedFury](#):
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> _:::::wipes away tears of joy:::::barely manages to regain composure::::::_
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> Alright then, can we get back to more important matters? Like ME for instance.

Okay, here ya go:

Fuck you! I’m waaaaaay more important! Even my typos are better than yours!

This thread is all abut ME ME ME. 😛

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**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/105 "2005-06-15T20:20:29Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> But that’s not what I complain about. There is a difference between a response that says, “Lib, you’ve commited a fallacy, and here’s why…” and a response that says,\*\* “Well, here’s that fucking Liberaltarian mouthing off again”.\*\* Do you see the difference? One is a disagreement. The other is a disfunction.

Yes, I do, and thanks for making yourself clear. (In the above quote, I bolded the type of action that I have defended you against in the past.)  
I guess I was just trying to rationalise why you might see an unusually high number of folks that come out against you. It’s great that you can see the differences as you noted, - others can’t, or don’t want to.

I’m glad you guys made nice, continue the good work…

And no, the cell phones were made by Diebold. \<ducks\>

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/106 "2005-06-15T20:24:24Z")

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> [@Uncommon Sense](#):
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> And no, the cell phones were made by Diebold. \<ducks\>

Diebold, Debad, and Defugly?

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/107 "2005-06-15T20:24:43Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> And now all the trainwreck fans will turn away in disgust, muttering how they’d come to see a fight and a hockey game broke out.
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> 😃

Hockey? Where? Where is the hockey!?

Sorry, strike’s been taking a toll on me.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/108 "2005-06-15T20:30:20Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> This thread is all abut ME ME ME. 😛

Bah! No, it isn’t. Not for as long as me and my ego are posting here anyway!

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**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/109 "2005-06-15T20:39:23Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> This thread is all abut ME ME ME. 😛

Funny, - one ME for each cat.

Accident? I’m afraid knot.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/110 "2005-06-15T20:45:03Z")

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> [@Uncommon Sense](#):
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> I’m afraid knot.

shouldn’t that be “I’m a frayed knot” ?

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/111 "2005-06-15T20:46:38Z")

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> [@RedFury](#):
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> Bah! No, it isn’t. Not for as long as me and my ego are posting here anyway!

“Me and my ego, rollin’ down the avenue…”

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/112 "2005-06-15T20:47:43Z")

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> [@Harborwolf](#):
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> Hockey? Where? Where is the hockey!?
> 
> Sorry, strike’s been taking a toll on me.

Ask not for whom the puck rolls; it rolls for thee.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/113 "2005-06-15T21:43:24Z")

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> [@cosmosdan](#):
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> Hmmmm :smack: on second thought what I asked for was buttocks. Lets leave the real naugty bits out (_,_) or something like that.

Nice try, but that actually looks more like a tube top.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/114 "2005-06-15T21:58:57Z")

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> [@This Year's Model](#):
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> Watch out, **EddyTeddyFreddy** and the usual suspects will pile on you. Here, I’ll distract them. You save your reputation. It’s too late for me, save yourself!
> 
> 'Tis a far, far better thing I do…

Missed this before.

Much appreciated, **TYM** , just the opening I needed!

I’m out. Save some wood – don’t let the summer fool ya!

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2005, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/115 "2005-06-15T22:09:56Z")

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> [@Uncommon Sense](#):
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> Yes, I do, and thanks for making yourself clear. (In the above quote, I bolded the type of action that I have defended you against in the past.)  
> I guess I was just trying to rationalise why you might see an unusually high number of folks that come out against you. It’s great that you can see the differences as you noted, - others can’t, or don’t want to.
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> I’m glad you guys made nice, continue the good work…
> 
> And no, the cell phones were made by Diebold. \<ducks\>

Thanks for getting it. And I’ve never thought there were a high number. Just a few.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2005, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/116 "2005-06-16T00:11:10Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> Ask not for whom the puck rolls; it rolls for thee.

Street hockey eh? Good thinking. Just got new skates.

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**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2005, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/117 "2005-06-16T00:13:51Z")

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> [@wring](#):
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> shouldn’t that be “I’m a frayed knot” ?

Yessir. good catch. I typed what I thought instead of thinking what I typed.

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**Author:** ![Lissa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lissa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissa)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2005, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/118 "2005-06-16T01:01:31Z")

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Very well done gentlemen. Thank you for your debate and resolution. If only our leaders could do this.

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**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2005, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/119 "2005-06-16T02:02:03Z")

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He’s not going to change his name to **Libel** now, is he?

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2005, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-prove-it-or-retract-it/308314/120 "2005-06-16T02:19:26Z")

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Only if I change mine to **VeddyFeddyDeady**. 😉

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