# Liberal Tolerance on parade at a local middle school... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 13, 2008, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547 "2008-11-13T16:27:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2008, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/241 "2008-11-15T08:02:16Z")
> [@Zoe](#): > > …and even the pleasures of non-conformity. Whatever my failings as a parent may have been, I can safely say I _nailed_ that one! ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2008, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/242 "2008-11-15T16:39:29Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Could you maybe start, just a little? I could really use some help on the Scions and the toilet paper commercials. Those have got to go. OK. I’ll glare at every Scion and mute the commercials. But I can’t promise more–I’m a bleeding heart, ya know. If I do more, I’ll start to pity the bears and the drivers and next thing you know, I’ll be holding candlelight vigils for these oppressed groups. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2008, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/243 "2008-11-15T18:04:57Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > So why is it okay to judge “liberal tolerance” by the actions of these assholes at said middle school? For the same reason that it is OK to judge conservatives by the actions of a small minority on Free Republic, apparently. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2008, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/244 "2008-11-15T20:47:47Z")
Yes, I can see the comparison between Freepers and middle-schoolers. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2008, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/245 "2008-11-15T21:00:37Z")
Or Dopers, for that matter. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2008, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/246 "2008-11-15T21:31:39Z")
Too late. I called it first. Nyeah! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2008, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/247 "2008-11-15T22:46:15Z")
If we are too tiresome for you, Shodan, I’m sure we would understand if you withdrew your invaluable presence. It will be hard, at first, no doubt. But we could learn to adjust. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2008, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/248 "2008-11-15T23:56:10Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Yes, I can see the comparison between Freepers and middle-schoolers. Hey, I made that comparison pages ago! ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2008, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/249 "2008-11-16T17:58:14Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > But the main thing is, people just simply behaved better in the days prior to the notion taking hold that righteous indignation gives people an excuse to act like assholes. Other than lynching “uppity” black men and screaming at black kids who dared to enter a white high school, that is… ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2008, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/250 "2008-11-16T19:22:07Z")
> [@Anne\_Neville](#): > > Other than lynching “uppity” black men and screaming at black kids who dared to enter a white high school, that is… With all due respect, it’s this kind of idiocy from the left and its Kool-Aid drinking devotees that has driven me nuts for the last forty years. Milliions of kids grew up in this country circa 1900 - 1968 and I’d wager that 99.99% never saw and/or participated in any lynchings. And I’d wager that 99.9% percent of the adult population in the sixties never yelled at any black kids going to white schools. People are robbed, raped, tortured and murdered every day in this country. Do those acts typify today’s society in the main? Shall we toss out what remains of societal convention and modes and mores of behavior in this country because it would put an end to rape and murder? This kind of false equivalence where people attempt to excuse the negative consequences of liberal influence on this society over the last forty years and claim they were necessary to end racism is utter nonsense. Besides, like I’ve said before blacks themselves had pretty much won that battle themselves before liberals began to champion it. The fact of the matter is that the cultural revolution that started in the late sixties and which has resulted in so many of the societal ills that exist now was a reaction to the Vietnam war and resentment over The Establishment’s™ scorn and derision over long hair and hippie modes of speech, dress and behavior. And drugs! Can’t forget that. Big resentment over not being allowed to use drugs. Just ask **luci**. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2008, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/251 "2008-11-16T19:31:20Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Because, of course, middle schoolers are totally representative of the population at large. :rolleyes: Unfortunately, that is more accurate than you realize. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2008, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/252 "2008-11-16T22:37:40Z")
> [@Sarahfeena](#): > > So if this happened to some liberal kid at a school in Oklahoma, that would be OK? Well, of course it’d be OK, if it was in Oklahoma. I hope I was the first person to come up with this rather obvious joke. I scanned the thread but didn’t see it. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2008, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/253 "2008-11-16T22:51:51Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Well, of course it’d be OK, if it was in Oklahoma. > > I hope I was the first person to come up with this rather obvious joke. I scanned the thread but didn’t see it. Sorry, man…you were the 3rd, I think! But it’s still funny. And no, I did not do that deliberately, as one person wondered. I’m just that much of a doofus. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/254 "2008-11-17T03:05:30Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > …Just ask **luci**. 😃 “I gave up whiskey for weed in 1974. May be the only really smart thing I ever did.” - Willy Nelson ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/255 "2008-11-17T03:33:48Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Also, she was trolling. This was my first thought. ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/256 "2008-11-17T07:02:55Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Milliions of kids grew up in this country circa 1900 - 1968 , I’d wager that 99.9% percent of the adult population in the sixties never yelled at any black kids going to white schools. I’s wager you’d lose that bet. Count the number of asshole in any picture of the integration of the schools in Little Rock, divide by the number of people in Little Rock and you’d get a number \>0.1. Betcha. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/257 "2008-11-17T08:10:43Z")
But schools in the Sixties were not as hard to integrate as Central High School in Little Rock in the Fifties. I don’t have any trouble believing Starving Artist’s estimate. There were a lot of people against integration. Speaking against it is one thing, but yelling at children takes it to another level. That is abusive behavior and it takes a real pond scum to do that sort of thing. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/258 "2008-11-17T09:36:14Z")
> [@Homebrew](#): > > I’s wager you’d lose that bet. Count the number of asshole in any picture of the integration of the schools in Little Rock, divide by the number of people in Little Rock and you’d get a number \>0.1. Betcha. Of course you’ll get a higher number if you single out a small town that was a hotspot of racial tension. But since the changes that have occurred in this country since the late sixties have affected life throughout the nation as a whole, my comments were in regard to the nation’s population as a whole also. ---
**Author:** ![VoluntaryPlan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/9fc29f/32.png) [@VoluntaryPlan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VoluntaryPlan)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/259 "2008-11-17T15:51:00Z")
You know, back in 2004, a very conservative friend of mine and I were talking in Economics class (high school) about the primaries. For the past few years, he had been cheerleading Bush. It was the night after Iowa and I was being very loud in my disappointment over Dean’s loss. The friend just sort of nodded and agreed with me, saying “Yeah, I would have liked Dean as President, he seems smart.” The teacher, who was no stranger to our political chats, expressed a little bit of shock. He’d support a democrat? We all kind of laughed about it because it would have been like me proclaiming my love for George W. Bush - very, very surprising. Sometimes teachers aren’t stupid. They know their students well. If the girl had espoused liberal positions, if she talked about how much she liked Obama, then one day walked in with a McCain shirt, wouldn’t you be surprised? ---
**Author:** ![jali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jali)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/260 "2008-11-17T16:19:54Z")
**Sarahfeena** , I’m always thrown off by your name, since I expect [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105316/](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105316/), then read one of your posts and get [http://www.forward.com/workspace/assets/ann-coulter-101907.jpg](http://www.forward.com/workspace/assets/ann-coulter-101907.jpg). Wow, it must really suck to be in the minority. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547.md?page=14)