# Liberal Tolerance on parade at a local middle school... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 13, 2008, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547 "2008-11-13T16:27:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/101 "2008-11-13T18:17:20Z")
> [@Lightnin](#): > > Then I submit that you’ve already made up your mind: Liberals are evil, lying hypocrites who indoctrinate their young to carry on their legacy of hatred. > > That about cover it? Nope. Not even a little. I think the problem is being in the majority, not the philosophy espoused. And that’s what I said, if you would kindly re-read. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/102 "2008-11-13T18:20:06Z")
> [@Sarahfeena](#): > > Oh please, people, settle down. I am not violently outraged, as I said. It’s hitting me in a little bit of a sensitive spot because this is the middle school my kids will go to one day. I live in this community, and know what it feels like _as an adult_ not to want to put a lawn sign out for an election because I know what kind of reaction I’ll get. In light of that, my post #95 seems a bit harsh, so I take it back. But if your concern was about that particular school, and that your kids will have to attend it, then I wish you could have said that right in your OP. What you seemed to be implying instead is that we liberals should somehow feel guilty about this, which is of course all kinds of dumb. Please make your concerns clearer in the future, OK? ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/103 "2008-11-13T18:20:07Z")
Nope it is the opposite. These kids dictate to the Liberals how they should treat the holy and blameless conservatives. I would never have thought of doing that, now I know I must. These kids are obviously the vanguard of a new movement and we must learn from them. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/104 "2008-11-13T18:22:45Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > In light of that, my post #95 seems a bit harsh, so I take it back. > > But if your concern was about that particular school, and that your kids will have to attend it, then I wish you could have said that right in your OP. What you seemed to be implying instead is that we liberals should somehow feel guilty about this, which is of course all kinds of dumb. > > Please make your concerns clearer in the future, OK? Thank you, and I will try to do that. I was kind of trying to avoid making it personal. It’s just a typical school in a place where most people are coming from the same point of view. I live here, and it’s not an evil community…it’s just that people get blinded by all the affirmation they get. It happens all over, and it’s wrong, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/105 "2008-11-13T18:23:55Z")
> [@Sarahfeena](#): > > Nope. Not even a little. I think the problem is being in the majority, not the philosophy espoused. And that’s what I said, if you would kindly re-read. Ah, so you’re saying that you’d expect the same behavior from conservative teenagers in Texas. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/106 "2008-11-13T18:27:00Z")
> [@Lightnin](#): > > Ah, so you’re saying that you’d expect the same behavior from conservative teenagers in Texas. In other words, the kid with the unpopular views got picked on. News at 11. It’s just that in this case it happened to be political instead of, like, Chess Club or liking disco. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/107 "2008-11-13T18:27:07Z")
> [@Lightnin](#): > > Ah, so you’re saying that you’d expect the same behavior from conservative teenagers in Texas. Of course, and they would suck, too. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/108 "2008-11-13T18:27:35Z")
> [@Sarahfeena](#): > > Of course, and they would suck, too. So what’s with bagging on liberals in your thread title? ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/109 "2008-11-13T18:30:46Z")
More peer-to-peer liberal tolerance in the school environment can be found [here](http://www.startribune.com/politics/state/34305774.html) (and it ain’t middle-school kids either; liberal bullying in the school system knows no grade limit). I don’t think liberals put up much of a front about being tolerant these days. That dates back to the days when they were lonely voices crying into the wilderness. Now that they have sufficient numbers on their side, their true nature is coming to the fore. Impassioned do-gooders: I was warned about the danger of 'em in grade school. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/110 "2008-11-13T18:34:20Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > So what’s with bagging on liberals in your thread title? They don’t get bagged on enough around here. 🙂 Seriously, because I do find it amusing that liberals consider themselves to be more enlightened. We’re all just pack animals when it comes right down to it. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/111 "2008-11-13T18:34:33Z")
> [@Sarahfeena](#): > > Of course, and they would suck, too. And yet I profoundly doubt that you would start a thread titled “Conservative Values on parade at local middle school” over it, let alone attempt to argue that this behavior was somehow indicative of conservativism. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/112 "2008-11-13T18:36:22Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > And yet I profoundly doubt that you would start a thread titled “Conservative Values on parade at local middle school” over it, let alone attempt to argue that this behavior was somehow indicative of conservativism. No, I wouldn’t bother. There are plenty of folks around here who I could count on to do it for me. I’ll tell you what I would think if I saw such an article, though…I would think that the conservative kids were learning something at home about people who are different from them that they probably shouldn’t. And I think the same thing here. ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/113 "2008-11-13T18:36:37Z")
Wait, did “liberal bullying” become an overnight epidemic that I wasn’t aware of? Thank god it’s been brought to our attention! Now we can tolerate it just like we tolerate everything else with our super Tolerance Skillz. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/114 "2008-11-13T18:37:11Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I don’t think liberals put up much of a front about being tolerant these days. That dates back to the days when they were lonely voices crying into the wilderness. Now that they have sufficient numbers on their side, their true nature is coming to the fore. I ask again, where have liberals as a group claimed to be tolerant of all political viewpoints, including those they strongly disagree with? I’ve seen claims that we should tolerate different views on religion and sexual preference, and promote equality for women and minorities, but just because the word tolerance is used, doesn’t automatically require us to be universally tolerant of everything. (Again, this has nothing to do with the middle school example, which is stupid.) ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/115 "2008-11-13T18:37:38Z")
> [@Sarahfeena](#): > > They don’t get bagged on enough around here. 🙂 > > Seriously, because I do find it amusing that liberals consider themselves to be more enlightened. We’re all just pack animals when it comes right down to it. OK, well, your example sucks. Next time maybe you should just start a thread in MPSIMS about how you think it’s amusing that liberals consider themselves to be more enlightened, instead of trying to use a story about how middle-schoolers make fun of each other as some kind of proof. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/116 "2008-11-13T18:38:17Z")
> [@Sarahfeena](#): > > No, I wouldn’t bother. There are plenty of folks around here who I could count on to do it for me. And what would you say to them? :dubious: Sometimes, there’s just not enough :rolleyes: in the world. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/117 "2008-11-13T18:39:11Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > And what would you say to them? :dubious: > > Sometimes, there’s just not enough :rolleyes: in the world. Go back to my post…I edited it with an additional thought that might answer your question here. ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/118 "2008-11-13T18:39:50Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > And what would you say to them? :dubious: She would say, > [@Sarahfeena](#): > > That’s exactly right. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/119 "2008-11-13T18:40:11Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Kids tell each other to die all the time at that age. It’s just smack talk. It means nothing. And yet, the school administrators often take it completely seriously _every single time_ because they don’t want to piss off the one set of parents who will sue them into Bolivia. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547/120 "2008-11-13T18:41:10Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I don’t think liberals put up much of a front about being tolerant these days. That dates back to the days when they were lonely voices crying into the wilderness. Now that they have sufficient numbers on their side, their true nature is coming to the fore. Or, you know, it might be just that there are more liberals now, and so you’re getting a better sampling of society as a whole. Logically speaking, those liberal assholes must’ve once been conservative assholes. Conservatives seem to like to hold Liberals up to impossible standards, so they can cackle with glee when Liberals turn out to be human. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-tolerance-on-parade-at-a-local-middle-school/472547.md?page=7)