# Liberal,  you are a coward,  a hypocrite,  and a liar

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-are-a-coward-a-hypocrite-and-a-liar/401080>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 21, 2007, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-are-a-coward-a-hypocrite-and-a-liar/401080 "2007-04-21T17:05:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2007, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-are-a-coward-a-hypocrite-and-a-liar/401080/21 "2007-04-21T22:57:54Z")

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[QUOTE=Mapache]  
Tom, I explained in my opening diatribe what infuriated me. I believe very strongly that hatred is one of the two cardinal “sins” of humankind, and I see nothing in any of my posts to Lib that would cause him to accuse me of such a feeling.  
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The entire conflict between the two of appears (to me) to be based on the issue that you each use language in quite different ways, often assigning significantly different meanings to specific words. Given that you each y\use words in sometimes significantly different ways, why would you assume that **Lib** meant hate in the manner that you perceive it? At some level, you two might very well be able to come to agree on some specific philosophical point regarding the word “hate,” but I strongly suspect that his expression of the term was probably not intended to convey exactly the same mindset that you read it based on your usage.

I’d have thought that either another effort to come to a mutual understanding of your respective idiolects or else a recognition that you are each unable to comprehend the other’s usage, resulting in a decision to civilly ignore each other, would have been a better expenditure of energy.

I really was simply confused as to the point of this thread. Now that you have provided an explanation of sorts, my question has been answered and I am out of here.

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**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2007, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-are-a-coward-a-hypocrite-and-a-liar/401080/22 "2007-04-21T22:58:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Struan]  
it’s a pretty life-changing experience when you realise that everyone else is thinking “Who the fuck _is_ this stupid cunt”.  
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So who are you again? 😃😛 I must say I’ve never met anyone that ‘everyone else’ thought that of. You must be quite extraordinary indeed.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2007, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-are-a-coward-a-hypocrite-and-a-liar/401080/23 "2007-04-21T23:18:38Z")

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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]  
So who are you again? 😃😛 I must say I’ve never met anyone that ‘everyone else’ thought that of. You must be quite extraordinary indeed.  
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Ah, to see yourself as others see you. I’m nobody around here, **Quiddity Glomfuster**. This is one of the longest running boards I’ve ever came across, and there are obviously going to be shenanigans and feuds dating back to _gulp_ 1999! I just thought that I’d not-so-subtly point out that you seem a little keen on jumping into situations that you can’t really know about.

Yes, I will remove that stick from my ass.

Do they sell keyboards with a breathalyzer attachment?

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**Author:** ![Caridwen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@Caridwen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caridwen)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2007, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-are-a-coward-a-hypocrite-and-a-liar/401080/24 "2007-04-21T23:48:39Z")

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[QUOTE=Struan]  
Ah, to see yourself as others see you. I’m nobody around here, **Quiddity Glomfuster**. This is one of the longest running boards I’ve ever came across, and there are obviously going to be shenanigans and feuds dating back to _gulp_ 1999! I just thought that I’d not-so-subtly point out that you seem a little keen on jumping into situations that you can’t really know about.

Yes, I will remove that stick from my ass.

Do they sell keyboards with a breathalyzer attachment?  
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[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8491370&postcount=13](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8491370&postcount=13)

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**Author:** ![Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c4cdca/32.png) [@Quiddity\_Glomfuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quiddity_Glomfuster)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2007, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-are-a-coward-a-hypocrite-and-a-liar/401080/25 "2007-04-21T23:56:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Caridwen]  
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8491370&postcount=13](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8491370&postcount=13)  
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[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8492117&postcount=18](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8492117&postcount=18)

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2007, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-are-a-coward-a-hypocrite-and-a-liar/401080/26 "2007-04-22T00:01:23Z")

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maybe bein’ new and all, y’all haven’t noticed that we can still see posts that are still on the same page. jus’ sayin’.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2007, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-are-a-coward-a-hypocrite-and-a-liar/401080/27 "2007-04-22T00:05:04Z")

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[QUOTE=wring]  
maybe bein’ new and all, y’all haven’t noticed that we can still see posts that are still on the same page. jus’ sayin’.  
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oops. sorry, there’s two threads. snarkiness and comment withdrawn w/apologies. Note, edit window was still open, but hell when I fuck up, I admit it.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2007, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-are-a-coward-a-hypocrite-and-a-liar/401080/28 "2007-04-22T03:03:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Mapache]  
QG, you are quite correct. Guess I better work on that.  
In my defense, I did say “with all due respect”.  
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I am totally confused. 😕

But since you are here, Mapache- how the holy hell are you a Charter Member with a start date before me and only like 200 posts? Super-lurker? 😕

Damn but that Lib sure gets PITed a lot and I can’t understand the half of them, either. 😃

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2007, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-are-a-coward-a-hypocrite-and-a-liar/401080/29 "2007-04-22T03:39:03Z")

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> **Struan** : Do they sell keyboards with a breathalyzer attachment?

Was that you playing at McBride’s Pub in Aberdeen Friday night? Did y’all ever get the piano disentangled from the drum set and upright again? Pity about the concertina player.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2007, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-are-a-coward-a-hypocrite-and-a-liar/401080/30 "2007-04-22T03:47:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Zoe]  
Was that you playing at McBride’s Pub in Aberdeen Friday night? Did y’all ever get the piano disentangled from the drum set and upright again? Pity about the concertina player.  
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I was just dancing with a flute in my own tiny head.

Actually I’ve got to ask about Aberdeen. WA?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2007, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-are-a-coward-a-hypocrite-and-a-liar/401080/31 "2007-04-22T12:46:09Z")

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[QUOTE=wring]  
when I fuck up, I admit it.  
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You’ll never survive around here with _that_ attitude.

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**Author:** ![Mapache](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/58956e/32.png) [@Mapache](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mapache)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2007, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-are-a-coward-a-hypocrite-and-a-liar/401080/32 "2007-04-22T17:38:24Z")

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[QUOTE=DrDeth]  
I am totally confused.

But since you are here, Mapache- how the holy hell are you a Charter Member with a start date before me and only like 200 posts? Super-lurker?

Damn but that Lib sure gets PITed a lot and I can’t understand the half of them, either. 😃  
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I’m not sure what you are confused about; I was just acknowledging QG’s point that my OP was somewhat self-contradictory and excessively unpleasant. I guess Lib pissed me off once too often, and I let my feelings overpower my judgment.

And yes, I tend to lurk a lot more than I post. Partly because I have a slow internet connection, but mostly because I am kind of intimidated by the quality of thinking and writing I find on the SDMB; I can no more phrase an elegant and witty paragraph than I can glow in the dark, and I regard both talents as equally mysterious. So I usually stay quiet, and admire some of the other posters’ insights.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2007, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-are-a-coward-a-hypocrite-and-a-liar/401080/33 "2007-04-22T17:52:44Z")

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I have noticed that he still hasn’t returned to his own “Define God” thread even though he’s posted many times since I asked for clarification on his terminology. I _hope_ he’s not avoiding it on purpose, for whatever reason. I’d like to think he’d say so, if he was. But this isn’t the first time he’s not answered a question I’ve asked him directly, so who can say?

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2007, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-are-a-coward-a-hypocrite-and-a-liar/401080/34 "2007-04-22T18:03:00Z")

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I say we put **Liberal** on the twenty-dollar bill.

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