# Liberal, you dickwad hypocrite - Part 2 **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 5, 2009, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-dickwad-hypocrite-part-2/495449 "2009-05-05T19:04:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-dickwad-hypocrite-part-2/495449/81 "2009-05-06T05:10:55Z")
> [@Gfactor](#): > > But let’s not make this thread about you. I agree. Let’s put this behind us and get back to pitting **Liberal**. 😃 It’s ok, you can join us (come on,.. I know you want to). ---
**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-dickwad-hypocrite-part-2/495449/82 "2009-05-06T05:11:13Z")
> [@Seven](#): > > I wrote my above reply before I read this new rule. > > You may edit out the offending section if you wish. 1. What you’ve quoted there is what we call a request. 2. The rule upon which I based that request is not new. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10920675#post10920675](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10920675#post10920675) **Gfactor** Pit Moderator ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-dickwad-hypocrite-part-2/495449/83 "2009-05-06T05:15:55Z")
> [@](#): > > **Tomndebb** : …but I do hope you guys realize that you have been played. Why do you hope that we realize that? For what purpose or end? How do you know who has been played and who hasn’t? ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-dickwad-hypocrite-part-2/495449/84 "2009-05-06T05:19:45Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > Some jerk decides to use a sock to call attention to **Liberal** ’s presence on the SDMB, posting several explicit lies that portray \*\*Liberal \*\*as having posted insults that he never actually posted on the spin-off boards. > Pile on! > Profit! > > _Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose._ > > I’m sure that **Liberal** seriously needs to be punished for being odd, but I do hope you guys realize that you have been played. You are full of shit. Entirely. What lies? Links could be given to the insults, but you’d just delete them as being “off board drama.” I, for one, would like to know what lies you are talking about because I read the original thread and I saw no lies. Also, please explain how anyone has been “played” except the people who believe you that the former thread contained lies about Liberal. ---
**Author:** ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-dickwad-hypocrite-part-2/495449/85 "2009-05-06T05:45:50Z")
I love it when SWB gets her back up. Come on girl. I know you got it in you! GO! GO! GO! ---
**Author:** ![Jeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-dickwad-hypocrite-part-2/495449/86 "2009-05-06T05:49:55Z")
It would certainly be nice if the moderators could keep their shit consistent - one is admonishing us for bringing up off-board drama and another is bringing it up. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-dickwad-hypocrite-part-2/495449/87 "2009-05-06T05:50:13Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > You are full of shit. Entirely. > > What lies? Links could be given to the insults, but you’d just delete them as being “off board drama.” I, for one, would like to know what lies you are talking about because I read the original thread and I saw no lies. > > Also, please explain how anyone has been “played” except the people who believe you that the former thread contained lies about Liberal. You can make up whatever you want to believe, but several insults attributed to Lib in the OP to the deleted thread were never posted anywhere and still do not exist either on Domebo or the Giraffe board. This is not a claim that Liberal has never posted insults, just an observation that the thread that got this ball rolling relied on lies to do it. I don’t care if everyone has some visceral need to beat up on Liberal; I just find it funny that his mere appearance, here, is enough to get people posting lies about him and lots more piling on. There ought to be enough posts by Liberal that anger enough people to fill a thread without making stuff up. - ::: shrug ::: \* ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-dickwad-hypocrite-part-2/495449/88 "2009-05-06T05:50:41Z")
Is there anyone else out there who has read every word of this thread, yet hasn’t the slightest idea what’s going on here? ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-dickwad-hypocrite-part-2/495449/89 "2009-05-06T05:53:57Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > You can make up whatever you want to believe, but several insults attributed to Lib in the OP to the deleted thread were never posted anywhere and still do not exist either on Domebo or the Giraffe board. This is not a claim that Liberal has never posted insults, just an observation that the thread that got this ball rolling relied on lies to do it. > > I don’t care if everyone has some visceral need to beat up on Liberal; I just find it funny that his mere appearance, here, is enough to get people posting lies about him and lots more piling on. There ought to be enough posts by Liberal that anger enough people to fill a thread without making stuff up. > > - ::: shrug ::: \* That’s a chickenshit response. You have access to the thread, tell us what the lies are. YOU are the one who made the accusation, so provide the information. You think people are getting played and you said there were lies. It’s really very simple. Put up or shut up. You can’t fling accusations of lies and then pretend like we all know what you’re talking about. We don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-dickwad-hypocrite-part-2/495449/90 "2009-05-06T05:54:36Z")
> [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](#): > > That’s nothing. I read Gfactor’s request on preview so I asterisked the word “DoMeBo.” Wasn’t that the name of a song that came out in the early 1990s? ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-dickwad-hypocrite-part-2/495449/91 "2009-05-06T05:57:07Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Is there anyone else out there who has read every word of this thread, yet hasn’t the slightest idea what’s going on here? I’m a long time lurker, recent poster, and I too have no idea what the fuck is going on here. Should also be noted that I don’t lurk/post on any of the SDMB spin-off message boards, the likes of which this whole debacle seems to be based off of. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-dickwad-hypocrite-part-2/495449/92 "2009-05-06T05:58:53Z")
> [@Jeff](#): > > It would certainly be nice if the moderators could keep their shit consistent - one is admonishing us for bringing up off-board drama and another is bringing it up. I do hope that you are not twisting what I have said: I have addressed only posts on this board. (Even the participants of the other boards who have commented on a “change” have returned to this board to do so.) ---
**Author:** ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-dickwad-hypocrite-part-2/495449/93 "2009-05-06T06:02:46Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Is there anyone else out there who has read every word of this thread, yet hasn’t the slightest idea what’s going on here? ME! I’ve never even heard of this **Liberal** freak until about 15 minutes ago. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-dickwad-hypocrite-part-2/495449/94 "2009-05-06T06:03:25Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > That’s a chickenshit response. You have access to the thread, tell us what the lies are. YOU are the one who made the accusation, so provide the information. You think people are getting played and you said there were lies. > > It’s really very simple. Put up or shut up. You can’t fling accusations of lies and then pretend like we all know what you’re talking about. We don’t. I can fling (accurate) accusations of lies at any sock I wish to. I simply made an observation about the group dynamics of the Pit. If it bothers you so much, ignore my posts. ---
**Author:** ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-dickwad-hypocrite-part-2/495449/95 "2009-05-06T06:08:46Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > I can fling (accurate) accusations of lies at any sock I wish to. I simply made an observation about the group dynamics of the Pit. If it bothers you so much, ignore my posts. > [@vBulletin Message](#): > > Sorry tomndebb is a moderator/admin and you are not allowed to ignore him or her. Curses! ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-dickwad-hypocrite-part-2/495449/96 "2009-05-06T06:09:26Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > I can fling (accurate) accusations of lies at any sock I wish to. I simply made an observation about the group dynamics of the Pit. If it bothers you so much, ignore my posts. In other words, you’ve got nothing. You can fling accusations of lies anywhere you want, but when you are unable to back them up or even identify the “lies” you are unreliable, cowardly, and an impotent rush of hot air. ---
**Author:** ![Jeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-dickwad-hypocrite-part-2/495449/97 "2009-05-06T06:32:29Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > I do hope that you are not twisting what I have said: I have addressed only posts on this board. (Even the participants of the other boards who have commented on a “change” have returned to this board to do so.) Ah yes, fair and balanced coverage. That is certainly all you’re doing. Kudos. ---
**Author:** ![3trew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/13edae/32.png) [@3trew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3trew)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-dickwad-hypocrite-part-2/495449/98 "2009-05-06T06:59:13Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > Several posters on the three boards involved in the kerfluffle observe that the situation on the SDMB has undergone some changes, resulting in far less angst. Having read the SDMB constantly prior to and during the period of angst, the formation of the other boards, and only very occasionally since, I caught the kerfuffle but missed the “some changes”. Does anyone have a link that could catch me up on how the SDMB has lost its angst? I’d be more specific as to my question, but until I’m caught up on the loss of angst I still have it, and I don’t want to use the wrong word or mention a thing that happened someplace we can’t mention things happening, or something. That looks like snark. It isn’t. If we’re drifting back, a real answer might be useful, as I doubt I’m the only one with this question. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-dickwad-hypocrite-part-2/495449/99 "2009-05-06T07:19:20Z")
**Tom** , I’d already addressed the very issues that are currently turning you into a pretzel impersonator in [**this post upthread**](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11111531&postcount=75). I was rather precise in my queries and nothing you have posted so far directly addresses what I posed to you. So, once again, would you give it another try? Because, so far, all you’re doing is shadow-boxing. Moreover, if as you say, “I [Tom] have addressed only posts on this board,” then I don’t see any problems for you to back up your dual assertions: the lies in the original OP and the part where we “got played.” If you can’t or won’t, you simply lack credibility on this matter – others might even say that you’re talking out your ass. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-dickwad-hypocrite-part-2/495449/100 "2009-05-06T07:20:33Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > Now that no one can see it, I’d have to agree. It was quite possibly the most insightful thing ever written on the Internet. Truly, I should be revered as a god. I go to bed and miss the best thing ever on the internet. Damn you need for sleep! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-dickwad-hypocrite-part-2/495449.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberal-you-dickwad-hypocrite-part-2/495449.md?page=6)