# "Liberals make the best capitalists" **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 30, 2011, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-make-the-best-capitalists/601326 "2011-10-30T22:53:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-make-the-best-capitalists/601326/61 "2011-11-01T19:22:48Z")
Maybe we should just agree that capitalists make the best liberals and call it a day. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-make-the-best-capitalists/601326/62 "2011-11-01T20:19:57Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Maybe we should just agree that capitalists make the best liberals and call it a day. No. The highly-visible examples of capitalists who make good liberals are . . . atypical. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-make-the-best-capitalists/601326/63 "2011-11-01T21:36:01Z")
Jeez Louise. Can we at least agree that Jews make the best capitalists? And if don’t detect a pattern in those last posts, you must’ve had a humorectomy in the recent past. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-make-the-best-capitalists/601326/64 "2011-11-01T22:14:42Z")
Maybe you should try close captioning for the humor impaired. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2011, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-make-the-best-capitalists/601326/65 "2011-11-02T02:12:41Z")
You realize now they’re going to go into whether liberals or conservatives have better senses of humor… ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2011, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-make-the-best-capitalists/601326/66 "2011-11-02T05:20:40Z")
And liberals make better fascists too! ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2011, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-make-the-best-capitalists/601326/67 "2011-11-02T05:37:04Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > You realize now they’re going to go into whether liberals or conservatives have better senses of humor… Liberals…notoriously. Especially if you exclude racist & sexist “jokes” or other meanspiritedness masquerading as humor. Conservative “humor” tends to lean towards things like portraying Michelle Obama as a chimpanzee or the Obama White House as having a front lawn full of watermelons. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-make-the-best-capitalists/601326/68 "2011-11-03T02:34:30Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Liberals…notoriously. Especially if you exclude racist & sexist “jokes” or other meanspiritedness masquerading as humor. Conservative “humor” tends to lean towards things like portraying Michelle Obama as a chimpanzee or the Obama White House as having a front lawn full of watermelons. And George W Bush was portrayed as a monkey. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-make-the-best-capitalists/601326/69 "2011-11-03T04:20:02Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > And George W Bush was portrayed as a monkey. :rolleyes: Which isn’t racist. ---
**Author:** ![Namkcalb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c89c15/32.png) [@Namkcalb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Namkcalb)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-make-the-best-capitalists/601326/70 "2011-11-03T04:42:58Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > Which isn’t racist. It’s as racist as portraying Michelle Obama as one. It’s as unracist as portraying Michelle Obama as one. Now, if they portrayed all people of their race as chimpanzies, then it would be VERY racist. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-make-the-best-capitalists/601326/71 "2011-11-03T04:43:51Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > And George W Bush was portrayed as a monkey. :rolleyes: It’s the same as the difference between a caricature portrayal of me (white, Russian and English) with yellowish skin and a squint, vs. a caricature of you (as I recall, Asian) with yellowish skin and a squint. One is a historically notable way of race-baiting, one is not. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-make-the-best-capitalists/601326/72 "2011-11-03T05:29:47Z")
> [@Namkcalb](#): > > It’s as racist as portraying Michelle Obama as one. > It’s as unracist as portraying Michelle Obama as one. > > Now, if they portrayed all people of their race as chimpanzies, then it would be VERY racist. > [@Zeriel](#): > > It’s the same as the difference between a caricature portrayal of me (white, Russian and English) with yellowish skin and a squint, vs. a caricature of you (as I recall, Asian) with yellowish skin and a squint. > > One is a historically notable way of race-baiting, one is not. What **Zeriel** said. It’s whites not blacks who are portrayed as apes by racists. And I note the apologists are avoiding commenting on the watermelons. ---
**Author:** ![Hyperelastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Hyperelastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hyperelastic)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-make-the-best-capitalists/601326/73 "2011-11-03T14:49:52Z")
OP is an interesting observation but it’s just a coincidence unless someone can point out a connection between their business strategies and their political statements. In other words, Steve Jobs and your favorite evil conservative CEO have polar opposite views on, say, gay marriage, but are they doing anything different businesswise? ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-make-the-best-capitalists/601326/74 "2011-11-03T15:48:27Z")
> [@Namkcalb](#): > > It’s as racist as portraying Michelle Obama as one. > It’s as unracist as portraying Michelle Obama as one. > > Now, if they portrayed all people of their race as chimpanzies, then it would be VERY racist. Except that there is a history of comparing people of African descent to apes, in part to dehumanize them and make it morally acceptable to enslave them. That usage now still touches on that history. Even for an individual or single family (I’ve seen jokes about the whole Obama family being simian), it’s just racist. People of white, European descent do not have similar associations in their history. It’s just mockery. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-make-the-best-capitalists/601326.md?page=3)