# Liberals, Neo-consevatives, Epistomologists **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [February 15, 2015, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-neo-consevatives-epistomologists/712718 "2015-02-15T14:16:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![William\_Hanley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a9a28c/32.png) [@William\_Hanley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/William_Hanley)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2015, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-neo-consevatives-epistomologists/712718/1 "2015-02-15T14:16:38Z")
Liberals objectify what they perceive as good in the world and marginalize those who don’t share their epiphanies. Neoconservatives objectify what they perceive as evil in the world and want to kill those who would challenge their revelations. Epistemologists want them both to just “shut the fuck up”!  ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2015, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-neo-consevatives-epistomologists/712718/2 "2015-02-15T14:17:58Z")
Is there a debate here, William? You are, of course, free to start threads. But those you start should have some basis in how they fit into the forum in which they’re started. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2015, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-neo-consevatives-epistomologists/712718/3 "2015-02-15T15:02:10Z")
I’ll argue with his eccentric definition of epistemology, if that will help. Epistemology is the philosophical study of how we know things. I don’t see any connection with that and telling political ideologues to shut up. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2015, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-neo-consevatives-epistomologists/712718/4 "2015-02-15T15:27:29Z")
What does this thread have in common with Militant Islam? ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2015, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-neo-consevatives-epistomologists/712718/5 "2015-02-15T15:33:29Z")
They’re both being moved to IMHO? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2015, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-neo-consevatives-epistomologists/712718/6 "2015-02-15T16:03:12Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > What does this thread have in common with Militant Islam? Fox News? ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2015, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-neo-consevatives-epistomologists/712718/7 "2015-02-15T21:05:33Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I’ll argue with his eccentric definition of epistemology, if that will help. Epistemology is the philosophical study of how we know things. I don’t see any connection with that and telling political ideologues to shut up. One might argue that people who really study the foundations of knowledge would be impatient with political ideology, which is often heavily a priori. But they wouldn’t say, STFU. They’d say, “And how do you know this, precisely, hm?” ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2015, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-neo-consevatives-epistomologists/712718/8 "2015-02-15T21:14:15Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > One might argue that people who really study the foundations of knowledge would be impatient with political ideology, which is often heavily a priori. > > But they wouldn’t say, STFU. They’d say, “And how do you know this, precisely, hm?” True. Ideologies are often a substitute for thinking - an individual simply agrees with the consensus of his chosen group rather than form his own opinions. But telling people to shut up is closing yourself off from their ideas. Which is pretty much the opposite of epistemology. ---
**Author:** ![William\_Hanley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a9a28c/32.png) [@William\_Hanley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/William_Hanley)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2015, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-neo-consevatives-epistomologists/712718/9 "2015-02-15T21:56:41Z")
New here… thank you! ---
**Author:** ![William\_Hanley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a9a28c/32.png) [@William\_Hanley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/William_Hanley)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2015, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-neo-consevatives-epistomologists/712718/10 "2015-02-15T22:09:16Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > They’re both being moved to IMHO? New here… thank you!