Liberals, Progressives, or Democrats, can we get over 'The Democrat Party?'

This was intentional, right? :slight_smile:

It seems to me it’s more appropriate to ask:

Conservatives, Republicans, or Tea Partiers, can you get over “The Democratic Party”?

I mean, it’s clear some people on the right have a real issue with referring to The Democratic Party by its proper name. That’s something the conservative movement needs to come to grips with. It’s not the Democrats’ job to cater to the quirks of the opposition.

Then why do you refer to Democrats as ‘tawdry’ people? Do you just mean Democratic Dopers?

I refer to Democrat Party as a collection of tawdry people. For me, the party is the politicians, the machine behind them, and the various hangers-on - yes, including Democrat Dopers. Not the poor deluded masses that are tricked into voting for the scoundrels every couple of years.

This issue reminds me of the Bush-sat-and-read-The-Pet-Goat-for-7-minutes issue. It’s NOT a big deal. On the scale of problems that the country faces right now it’s tiny. What it is, however, is something that’s pretty indisputable.

If someone WHO KNOWS BETTER continues to use the term, then they’re being a dick. In a pretty minor way. It’s not a big deal. I don’t lose sleep over it. I don’t cry about it. I don’t even start threads on the SDMB about it (although I guess I’m posting in one). But it’s an issue where it’s just 100% clear that there is a correct name for the Democratic Party, and people are choosing not to use it, and that’s impolite. Period.

(I’m referring here to people like national-level politicians and newscasters who clearly should know better… if I encounter someone in daily life and he refers to “The Democrat Party” and doesn’t pronounce it in a sneering fashion, I’ll assume he’s just understandably ignorant, and I won’t take offense… and I probably won’t bother correcting him, because, why bother, it’s hardly worth the effort?)
The difference between “The Democrat Party” and “Faux News” is twofold: (1) as others have pointed out, there’s an issue of deniability, of pretending that you’re not being a jerk when you are. More importantly, though (2) when was the last time you heard a major national Democratic leader use the term “Faux News”? People on the SDMB say “Faux News” and “Repugs”, and people on Free Republic says “Libtards” and “Obamorons” (or whatever). It happens. Not a biggie. But when national figures start calling it “The Democrat Party” and get away with it, that’s when another slice or our national dignity dies…

I see. So you don’t have hatred for those Democratic-supporting servicemen and women, you just have contempt and pity for them (as poor deluded masses).

Another thing I learned is that most people actually have pretty good reasons for what they believe, even when they’re wrong. You’re probably a decent guy, even though you’re wrong… it’s sad that you think I’m either a tawdry person or a poor deluded one. I’m actually a pretty decent guy too, and a pretty smart and accomplished one.

Unfortunately there’s lots of people who feel this way, but I think it’s a pretty sad way to think about millions of your fellow Americans. Most are decent and reasonable folks.

So I’ll ask you as a fellow veteran, Terr, please call the party ‘Democratic Party’, not ‘Democrat Party’.

Waht are you talking about?

(searching)

Oh, I see. No, I simply can’t spell and Firefox for Linux’s spell checher doesn’t work on the SDmB. Anyway, it’s an accepted alternative splling.

Can’t make myself. And - we’re both veterans, but of different militaries :slight_smile: I served in the IDF. I got to call my commanders by their first names. And no saluting.

I think you are very capable of it, but if you choose not to, then what a shame. I thought you might like to make a gesture of goodwill.

Well, that explains why you never learned about Democrats what I did about Republicans.

Why is that appropriate? They’re not the ones making a big deal about it.

Sorry, that custom did not survive Independence.

National independence…or individual?

For a lot of folks, it seems the moment they turn 21 and get out from under their parents’ control…they turn into jerks!

(Hm… The same is sometimes true of nations…)

While I am a democratic socialist I am still registered with the Democratic Party. However to be fair it sounds off to me to call someone a “Democratic” or just “Democratic”, it sounds like a label of ideology rather than a description of party membership. Democrat doesn’t bother me in the slightest and sounds more natural to my ears, but that’s just me. I guess you could say the full title “Member of the Democratic Party”, but I’m not a fan of verbiage. Oh well.

However despite my personal opinion the term Democrat is definitely used in a hostile manner and as a slur, so just because a few people are fine with it doesn’t make it acceptable I guess and should be called out on it.

As a noun, it’s not an epithet or a slur – as in “I’m a registered Democrat”. But as an adjective, it’s often used as an epithet, as in “a supporter of the Democrat party”.

That makes sense, I misread the Wikipedia page then. The More You Know :slight_smile:

Offensive? Nah. Stupid? Yes. It’s a low-level irritant reminding me that users of the term are jackasses, which I already know.

No biggie.

Can you help me understand how/why it’s a slur? I don’t see it. What is the slur? What negative picture is trying to be painted by the omission of the “ic”? Should republicans be insulted if the left started referring to the Republic Party?

Something can be a slur without there being anything inherently insulting in the precise choice of words. Is there any logically definite reason why “Oriental” or “Chinaman” or “Negro” or “Colored Person” is now considered offensive terminology?

In any case, I think it’s less a slur and more an irritating nickname… like constantly calling someone “Nicky” when hey prefer to go by “Nicholas”. It’s inaccurate and disrespectful, if in a clearly very minor way.

Because it’s meant as a slur. There’s nothing about the word (like most slurs), but it’s used as a slur, admittedly, in many cases.

If it were meant as a slur, then yes.

It’s not a huge deal. It’s annoying and childish, usually deliberately so. So it deserves to be challenged and mocked, in my opinion.