# Liberal's Prospective Suspension/Banning **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 27, 2006, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-prospective-suspension-banning/350134 "2006-03-27T19:25:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-prospective-suspension-banning/350134/181 "2006-03-29T17:39:34Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Sigh … the Pit thread was only “inevitable” because there are so many people who want to jump on him, even when he hasn’t said jack since. There’s a Pit thread because there’s so many people with nothing better to do than to add to it. Clear now? :rolleyes: And yet, here you are with us. People post to what interests them. **Lib** is very often interesting, in a massive, ten car pileup kind of way. As **John Mace** said, good gossip is something everyone enjoys. > [@](#): > > Apparently his request to be ignored _is_ too hard for some of you to comply with. But to call _him_ a drama queen because of \*your \* lack of a life is just sad. So…you really think he was asking to be ignored? Wow. I think you may have totally misinterpreted that ATMB thread. And of course I lack a life. I have two kids and work ten hours a damn day. Why the hell else do you think I’m here? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-prospective-suspension-banning/350134/182 "2006-03-29T17:41:05Z")
> [@Maureen](#): > > Well, not irresponsible so much as, um…what’s a diplomatic word for hypocritical and melodramatic? Hypocritical because **Lib** claims to be all about personal responsibility. Yet he can’t be bothered to just exercise some self control and not post. Melodramatic because April 15th really isn’t all that far away. He could’ve just allowed his subscription to lapse. It would’ve accomplished the same thing. I agree with others who have said that this is a poor description of libertarianism. Asking a private citizen to help you out is in no way a hypocritical act for a libertarian. As for melodramatic, if he made his request privately, there’d be no drama; I do not presume to guess as to his reasons for wanting the ban sooner rather than later. **QED** , I guess we do have to agree to disagree. And on such a weighty matter, too… Daniel ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-prospective-suspension-banning/350134/183 "2006-03-29T17:41:51Z")
No, only those who want to get their last useless condemnations in on a guy _who’s already left_. That’s who constitutes most of this thread, if you’ll notice. And, since you bring up the OP, **Shodan** , for his pitiful whining about having one less flaming nutjob to keep him company. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-prospective-suspension-banning/350134/184 "2006-03-29T17:43:37Z")
> [@Maureen](#): > > So…you really think he was asking to be ignored? That’s what announcing his departure means, or should mean. What’s unclear about that? > [@](#): > > Why the hell else do you think I’m here? That’s for you to say. But obviously this is the best thing you have to do right now. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-prospective-suspension-banning/350134/185 "2006-03-29T17:47:00Z")
> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#): > > **QED** , I guess we do have to agree to disagree. And on such a weighty matter, too… Whence the veiled hostility? I never claimed it was a matter of any great import. You saw fit to argue the issue with me; should I have ignored you? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-prospective-suspension-banning/350134/186 "2006-03-29T17:48:30Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > No, only those who want to get their last useless condemnations in on a guy _who’s already left_. That’s who constitutes most of this thread, if you’ll notice. “last”? Honestly? You really think he won’t be back? Hell, you think he isn’t reading this now while not cookied? **Elvis** , I can’t agree with you here. I doubt very much **lib** is capable of the actions you’re ascribing to him. He may not have signed in, but I’m willing to wager a large chunk of cash he knows exACTly what’s going on. > [@](#): > > And, since you bring up the OP, **Shodan** , for his pitiful whining about having one less flaming nutjob to keep him company. Whaaaa? I didn’t insult **Shodan**. All I did was point out that he was fully aware of where this thread would end up. Take a breath, dude. I always say what I mean. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-prospective-suspension-banning/350134/187 "2006-03-29T18:39:22Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > That’s for you to say. But obviously this is the best thing you have to do right now. And it’s so kind of you to take time out of your busy schedule to point this out to us. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-prospective-suspension-banning/350134/188 "2006-03-29T18:46:56Z")
> [@Maureen](#): > > Whaaaa? I didn’t insult **Shodan**. All I did was point out that he was fully aware of where this thread would end up. Take a breath, dude. I always say what I mean. I believe that was a response to me. I am always amused when people with 10,000+ posts suggest that _other people_ do not have a life. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-prospective-suspension-banning/350134/189 "2006-03-29T19:56:08Z")
> [@Q.E.D.](#): > > Whence the veiled hostility? I never claimed it was a matter of any great import. You saw fit to argue the issue with me; should I have ignored you? 😕 I don’t mean any veiled hostility; I only meant that given how trivial the matter is, agreeing to disagree on it is no big deal. I was kinda making fun of myself for even bothering to argue the issue, is all. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-prospective-suspension-banning/350134/190 "2006-03-29T20:13:46Z")
> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#): > > I don’t mean any veiled hostility; I only meant that given how trivial the matter is, agreeing to disagree on it is no big deal. I was kinda making fun of myself for even bothering to argue the issue, is all. Ah, gotcha. Well, it was an entertaining excercise, if nothing else. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2006, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-prospective-suspension-banning/350134/191 "2006-03-29T21:16:24Z")
> [@Maureen](#): > > “last”? Honestly? You really think he won’t be back? Hell, you think he isn’t reading this now while not cookied? I don’t think so, although I hope so. **Lib** doesn’t list his e-mail in his profile - understandably, IMO, given the inexplicable level of venom he incurs. But I do very much want him to stay/return after a breather. > [@](#): > > Whaaaa? I didn’t insult **Shodan**. All I did was point out that he was fully aware of where this thread would end up. And now I regret it, since **Lib** doesn’t go into the Pit. I should have done ATMB, perhaps. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2006, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-prospective-suspension-banning/350134/192 "2006-03-30T16:48:38Z")
It doesn’t look like they\* have honored his request. He has refrained from posting on his own since the request: [His last post.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7234448&postcount=1) Looks like he is doing a good job on his own. If so more power to him and good going. Jim - Admins ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2006, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-prospective-suspension-banning/350134/193 "2006-03-30T20:20:08Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > Took the words out of my mouth. Humans love to gossip. It might be the most fundamental of all human traits. That’s not what _I_ heard. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2006, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-prospective-suspension-banning/350134/194 "2006-03-31T05:26:01Z")
I’m not an authority on **Liberal’s** motives. I don’t know if even he knows why his request was posted in public. I do know that “drama queen” is an easy label for anyone who acts out the need for love and attention. That need is also human nature. People who are starved for it are that way for reasons which are beyond us. If we assume we are being manipulated into giving attention, the appropriate response is to disengage – ignore. It isn’t to shower the person with negative **attention.** I just can’t make any such assumptions with the little information that I have. Some of you with more _scientific_ minds may have keener insights that allow you to assault with confidence. ---
**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2006, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-prospective-suspension-banning/350134/195 "2006-03-31T05:28:06Z")
> [@What Exit?](#): > > It doesn’t look like they\* have honored his request. > He has refrained from posting on his own since the request: [His last post.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7234448&postcount=1) > Looks like he is doing a good job on his own. If so more power to him and good going. > > Jim > > - Admins Unless, of course, they HAVE honored his request by _secretly_ disabling his ability to post without changing anything overtly in his member status field. It’s a win-win-win situation:\*\* Lib\*\* gets break he needs and the disabled posting privileges he wants to keep him off the boards without alerting the whole board it’s been done; no one else will be able to prove one way or the other whether he’s staying away from the SDMB on his own voalition or not; and the mods can grant the request easily without engendering much controversy. It’s Solomonian in its perfection as a solution! All you’d need to spoil things is some smartass neo-muckracker to put two and two together and post his suspicions. Yup. That’s the theory I’d post, if I had one. Unless a moderator or admin comes along and flat out says that’s not so. We’d all believe that, right? Right? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2006, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-prospective-suspension-banning/350134/196 "2006-03-31T05:31:42Z")
> [@Zoe](#): > > I’m not an authority on **Liberal’s** motives. I don’t know if even he knows why his request was posted in public. > > I do know that “drama queen” is an easy label for anyone who acts out the need for love and attention. That need is also human nature. People who are starved for it are that way for reasons which are beyond us. > > If we assume we are being manipulated into giving attention, the appropriate response is to disengage – ignore. It isn’t to shower the person with negative **attention.** > > I just can’t make any such assumptions with the little information that I have. Some of you with more _scientific_ minds may have keener insights that allow you to assault with confidence. So…would now be a bad time to point out that there was 9 hours between **Miller’s** post and yours, and the thread may very well have just fallen off the page if you hadn’t felt the need to come back and tell us all to shut up and leave poor **liberal** alone? ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2006, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-prospective-suspension-banning/350134/197 "2006-03-31T06:11:41Z")
I did not say that, Maureen. I am responsible only for things that I actually say. I make most of my posts late in the day. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2006, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-prospective-suspension-banning/350134/198 "2006-03-31T06:30:07Z")
It is unseemly to attack those who cannot respond. 😉😃 ---
**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2006, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-prospective-suspension-banning/350134/199 "2006-03-31T07:27:52Z")
> [@Zoe](#): > > I did not say that, Maureen. I am responsible only for things that I actually say. > > I make most of my posts late in the day. You bumped the thread. **Maureen’s** point stands. And **Guin** , SAFTK. You heard it here first. [sub]I keed, I keed.[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2006, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-prospective-suspension-banning/350134/200 "2006-03-31T07:48:06Z")
> [@dnooman](#): > > You bumped the thread. > > **Maureen’s** point stands. If **Zoe** hadn’t done it, I would have. Note that our posts were a couple minutes apart, and I was typing mine at the same time she was, she just hit SUBMIT first. This thread had no chance of dropping off the page today before us late night posters did our thang. Mwah ha ha ha. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-prospective-suspension-banning/350134.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-prospective-suspension-banning/350134.md?page=11)