# Liberals: Stop making Islamic terrorism about race

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-stop-making-islamic-terrorism-about-race/779295>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 8, 2017, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-stop-making-islamic-terrorism-about-race/779295 "2017-02-08T02:04:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-stop-making-islamic-terrorism-about-race/779295/41 "2017-02-08T16:59:06Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> This is the sort of OPs we get when we allow Hawaiian Zoroastrians join the board.

You’re right! Something has to be done! For now every new user who’s name begins with a “d” (like **DerekMichaels00** ) will not be allowed in, at least until we can figure out what’s going on.

Current users with names that begin with a “d” (like **DerekMichaels00** ) will have to undergo extreme vetting in order to remain on this board.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-stop-making-islamic-terrorism-about-race/779295/42 "2017-02-08T17:07:26Z")

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Obama had the same policy about names that begin with “d.”

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-stop-making-islamic-terrorism-about-race/779295/43 "2017-02-08T17:20:50Z")

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**Ignorant Sacks Of Shit: Stop Posting About Justifying Dementia-Trump’s Policy Ideas.**  
…gee, wonder if that should have been another thread…

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-stop-making-islamic-terrorism-about-race/779295/44 "2017-02-08T17:28:26Z")

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> [@marshmallow](#):
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> As for the OP, when white people commit terrorism by bombing people they say stuff like “target neutralized” or “heading back to base.”

“[A]ll you tyrannical motherfuckers will swing in the wind one day for your treasonous actions against the Constitution of the United States.”

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-stop-making-islamic-terrorism-about-race/779295/45 "2017-02-08T17:44:53Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> Right wing white males are a major source of terrorism, even law enforcement considers them a [bigger](http://www.newsweek.com/2016/02/12/right-wing-extremists-militants-bigger-threat-america-isis-jihadists-422743.html) threat than radical muslims.
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> Whatever restrictions on civil rights the GOP tries to put on muslims, people should also be calling for on right wing white males.
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> Restrictions on immigration, gun ownership, increased surveillance, media clampdowns, efforts to fight radicalization in places of worship and online, monitoring their media, blaming all of them when one commits an act of terrorism, etc. If you’re going to dump them on muslims, they also need to be placed on right wing white males. In the name of safety.

But that’s uhhhhh that’s errrr that’s different! 😃

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-stop-making-islamic-terrorism-about-race/779295/46 "2017-02-08T20:53:09Z")

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> [@DerekMichaels00](#):
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> Why? Cuz I call commies out??

“Commies”? What’s this about “commies”?

> [@marshmallow](#):
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> As for the OP, when white people commit terrorism by bombing people they say stuff like “target neutralized” or “heading back to base.”

Well, the salaried ones do.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-stop-making-islamic-terrorism-about-race/779295/47 "2017-02-08T21:07:46Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> This should make you feel safer.  
> [**Probability of Getting Killed by a Refugee Terrorist Is One in 3.6 Billion**](http://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/what-are-the-chances-of-being-killed-by-a-terrorist-attack-on-us-soil)  
> Fairly long read.  
> [Terrorism and Immigration: A Risk Analysis](https://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/terrorism-immigration-risk-analysis)

However, the danger of being killed by one that is already here, and was probably born here…  
From

[http://www.wwltv.com/news/local/orleans/i-really-thought-im-not-going-to-make-it-restaurant-owner-escapes-fire/395596983](http://www.wwltv.com/news/local/orleans/i-really-thought-im-not-going-to-make-it-restaurant-owner-escapes-fire/395596983)

and

> **[Flaming Torch fire being investigated as possible arson, New Orleans fire...](https://www.nola.com/news/crime_police/flaming-torch-fire-being-investigated-as-possible-arson-new-orleans-fire-department-says/article_b9d5d4fb-4669-5c25-858f-2fdeacedd541.html)**
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> A fire at the Uptown restaurant The Flaming Torch on Sunday night (Jan. 29) is being investigated as possible arson, the New Orleans Fire Department confirmed Thursday.

Iranian-American restaurant owner almost killed in arson fire set at her restaurant

**There is surveillance footage of a masked man possibly dousing the dining room with gasoline while Ms. Khaleghi was upstairs**.  
Khaleghi, 52, said she believe the fluid she described having seen in the video was gasoline. The smell of gasoline filled the interior of the restaurant four days after the fire, and a thick layer of soot coated the walls, ceiling and windows. She said she turned the surveillance video over to the fire department.  
[…]  
Even though the restaurant was closed, Khaleghi said, it should have been obvious that someone was still there, as she’d left the first-floor lights on as well as the television and the stereo system.  
Khaleghi is a widow and a mother of two boys. She and her late husband were born in Iran and have lived in America for 27 years.  
Welcome to Trumpland.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-stop-making-islamic-terrorism-about-race/779295/48 "2017-02-08T23:23:05Z")

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> [@DerekMichaels00](#):
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> yea, a piece from leftist kook Kurt Eichenwald.
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> you liberals can keep living in lala land, and it makes me sad, bc I still disagree vehemently with the GOP on abortion, LGB rights, environment, but if being kept safe is bad because Islam is so great, its a sad choice, but I’ll choose safety instead of Islam.

Can you disprove the claim that law enforcement groups consider right wing white males (single shooters, militias, etc) a bigger threat than islamic jihadists?

I’m all for keeping people safe, but its not as simplistic as people like Trump want to believe.

I never said Islam is great.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-stop-making-islamic-terrorism-about-race/779295/49 "2017-02-08T23:59:20Z")

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About Trump’s list Of Terror…

It’s bullshit.

Just taking one example, the Australia “terror” attack…

And Australia  
The parents of two British-born backpackers killed by a mentally disturbed man in the remote outback of Australia have reacted with fury to Donald Trump including their children as victims of a “terror attack” to bolster his phony claim that the media are deliberately “underreporting" terrorism. Their anger and disgust at Trump is just another reflection of this Administration’s sheer incompetence and disregard for the impact of its lies to the lives of ordinary people.  
Mia Ayliffe-Chung, 21, was backpacking in Australia when she stopped to stay in a remote hostel. There she met Tom Jackson, another backpacker staying there. Unfortunately an emotionally disturbed 29-year old French national named Smail Ayad, another hostel guest, apparently developed an infatuation for her during her brief stay. Despite his “Arabic sounding name" the police ultimately determined Ayad was neither an Islamic fundamentalist or even a practicing Muslim, nor had he ever set foot in a mosque. He was, quite simply, mentally ill with a history of imagining paranoid conspiracies against him.  
"My daughter’s death will not be used to further this insane persecution of innocent people,” - Rosie Ayliffe, mother of one victim

“Woke up this morning to see you’ve used my son’s murder to further your campaign of hate. How dare you. You are a discrace.” Sandra Jackson, mother of the other victim

[https://twitter.com/RosieAyliffe/sta...12495205240832](https://twitter.com/RosieAyliffe/sta...12495205240832)

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liberals-stop-making-islamic-terrorism-about-race/779295/50 "2017-02-09T00:01:31Z")

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So what about the other side of the coin that he **completely ignores**?

“Alt-Right” Assassin Killed Six At Quebec Mosque  
Alexandre Bissonnette killed six people at a Quebec City mosque on January 29.

Dylann Roof, “Face Of The Radicalized ‘Alt-Right’” Killed Nine At Historically Black Church  
The University of Chicago’s Divinity School properly identified Dylann Roof, the man behind the June 17, 2015, shooting at a historically black church in Charleston, SC, as “the face of the radicalized ‘alt-right.’” In a confession video, Roof told an FBI agent that he committed the attack because “Blacks are raping and killing white people on the streets every day.”  
British “White Fascist” Killed Labour MP Jo Cox  
Thomas Mair, a British man “with extreme right wing views,” according to CNN, was convicted of murdering British Labour member of parliament Jo Cox in June 2016.

Man Angered By Debunked Sting Videos Killed Three At Colorado Planned Parenthood  
In 2015, Robert Lewis Dear opened fire inside a Colorado Planned Parenthood, killing three people.

White Supremacist Gave Nazi Salute After Targeting Jews In Missouri Shooting  
Frazier Glenn Miller, a “Missouri man with a long resume of anti-Semitism and white supremacist activism,” according to CNN, killed three people on April 13, 2014, after opening fire on two Jewish centers in Kansas City, MO. The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) said that just after his arrest, “Miller shouted ‘Heil Hitler’ while handcuffed in the back seat of a police car.”

It’s OK if a Nazi did it.

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