# Libertarian, bend over... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 4, 2002, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-bend-over/122328 "2002-08-04T21:18:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2002, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-bend-over/122328/41 "2002-08-05T15:20:58Z")
I think that’s pretty insulting to Tuba, DJ, to imply that she might not have reached a correct moral status had it not been for the complaints of some of the people in that thread. She doesn’t need me, you, or anyone else to know right from wrong. I assure you that she apologized because she is the epitome of class, not because she was badgered into it. ---
**Author:** ![dalovindj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@dalovindj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalovindj)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2002, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-bend-over/122328/42 "2002-08-05T15:29:32Z")
If no one had brought it up, perhaps she would not have reconsidered. Perhaps she never would have even thought twice about it. I find her to have a wonderful charchter (if not a flwless one - who would have thought, admins are human too). Either way you contributed nothing concerning the issue. You just bitched at everybody and told them to go away. More importantly however, don’t you feel your Injun comment was unjustified and out of line? I assume you’ll just ignore this part, based on your past behaivior. You’ll probably just make some cryptic comment and circle back aorund for another drive buy (maybe a witty insult and a round of righteous indignation), instead of addressing peoples valid points. DaLovin’ Dj ---
**Author:** ![dalovindj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@dalovindj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalovindj)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2002, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-bend-over/122328/43 "2002-08-05T15:32:48Z")
I obviously didn’t proof that post. Replace the proper words were applicable as follows: character flawless drive “by” people’s That’s better. DaLovin’ Dj ---
**Author:** ![dalovindj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@dalovindj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalovindj)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2002, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-bend-over/122328/44 "2002-08-05T15:34:05Z")
“where” applicable. Damn. Would you believe I type for a living? DaLovin’ Dj ---
**Author:** ![Sparc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Sparc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparc)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2002, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-bend-over/122328/45 "2002-08-05T15:38:06Z")
> [@](#): > > There’s one other besides this one. This one and two more… [Are Libertarian and logic incompatible?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=128460) [Libertarian, a word please](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=128687) And then I am not going to count the one directed at parody without links, which targeted the phenomena and was clearly stated by Fenris to not be directed at Libertarian and me, although we were implicated. Now, Squish, tell me if three Pit threads in a week is not an unusual amount? The only other member that comes to mind that would be expected to pull such a count would be december. Lib and december? Not from the same planet last time I checked. Anyway, you’ve made your point; many (me included) disagree. I think that Fenris has a point as re your choice of words in the OP. Libertarian has said what he has to say, and I think we can conclude that this matter isn’t going to get any more clarified than it is. Sparc PS DaLovin’Dj; it’s not that the OP slur isn’t PC and Lib’s comment was. It’s that Lib’s might have been out of place, but it was self deprecating sarcasm while the OP slur is directly offensive, and although clearly hyperbolic at least I fail to see the sarcasm (thereby not saying that I think Squish is being literal in any way) DS ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2002, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-bend-over/122328/46 "2002-08-05T16:12:35Z")
> [@](#): > > More importantly however, don’t you feel your Injun comment was unjustified and out of line? More importantly? Of all the terms that you could ascribe to this, you chose “important”? Have you tried yoga? ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2002, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-bend-over/122328/47 "2002-08-05T16:19:12Z")
> [@](#): > > More importantly however, don’t you feel your Injun comment was unjustified and out of line? More importantly? Of all the terms that you could ascribe to this, you chose “important”? Have you tried yoga? ---
**Author:** ![dalovindj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@dalovindj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalovindj)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2002, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-bend-over/122328/48 "2002-08-05T17:13:54Z")
It’s more important than your defense of **Tuba** , who may or may not have changed her mind without reasonable discourse. It’s a relative thing. This is just a message board, so it is all fairly inconsequential. Yoga? Tried it. It sucks. Just as I assumed. Your response managed to be cryptic, insulting, and completely avoid the issue at hand. You are a real jerk off sometimes. Unlike **Tuba** , you seem unwilling to acknowledge your mistakes. Get over yourself you prententious fuck. If your willing to have an actual discussion (which I doubt, you misdirecting fool), then reconcile theses two comments of yours for me: > [@](#): > > Again, I can’t speak for anyone else, but for me, nothing is more insulting than “Oh, you poor thing. You need my special protection because you can’t help who you are.” Excuse me? I don’t need any special protection. How can anyone who says this then procede to use the following defense when a number of people vocally disagree with your ideas (based on the content of the ideas, not your inconsequential -in this case- heritage): > [@](#): > > You’re too busy piling on me now. “There’s the Injun that disagrees with us! Get him!” Makes you look like an ass. Or even worse: A Jerk. No one brought up race in that other thread but you. And you did it in an attempt to fend off a pile on. Don’t pile on me I’m an indian! Sounds like a request for special treatment to me. You got your ass handed to you because you deserved it. Just like anyone else who said anything as foolish as you did would have. Nothing like equality, huh sparky? Admit your error and be done with this. Let **Tuba** be your example. DaLovin’ Dj ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2002, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-bend-over/122328/49 "2002-08-05T17:38:26Z")
> [@](#): > > Just as I assumed. Your response managed to be cryptic, insulting, and completely avoid the issue at hand. Issue? 😃 > [@](#): > > You are a real jerk off sometimes. Right. And you’re a saint. > [@](#): > > Unlike Tuba, you seem unwilling to acknowledge your mistakes. No, see, I acknowledged a mistake just this morning to Ultrafilter in one of the other Lib pit threads. > [@](#): > > Get over yourself you prententious fuck. I’d say it looks like _you_ need to get over me. > [@](#): > > Makes you look like an ass. Or even worse: A Jerk. To you, you mean, right? And you are who again? > [@](#): > > Admit your error and be done with this. Let Tuba be your example. Can you not post without insulting Tuba? Stop using her like your personal grudge banner. The one who needs to be done with this is you, DJ. Seriously. Get therapy. ---
**Author:** ![dalovindj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@dalovindj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalovindj)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2002, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-bend-over/122328/50 "2002-08-05T17:55:15Z")
> [@](#): > > Issue? Yeah, the one about your hypocritical, innapropriate race card play in a situation where no one was talking about race. You know, the issue you keep avoiding. Silly rabbit. Tricks are for bitches. > [@](#): > > To you, you mean, right? And you are who again? Go fuck yourself. This is a message board, we all have equal right to speak. To imply that I am someone who’s opinion is less important than others here is so fucking stupid, I can’t believe it’s you. You offended me and alot of other people with your little indian comment. If you don’t care that you’ve offended people, fine. Reveals spades about your personality, fuckwad. > [@](#): > > Can you not post without insulting Tuba? Stop using her like your personal grudge banner. I didn’t insult her. I complimented her. She made a mistake. That isn’t an insult. I don’t hold people making mistakes against them. I do think that admitting when you have made a mistake is a noble attribute. One you seem to lack. > [@](#): > > Seriously. Get therapy. You wanna suck my _what_? DaLovin’ Dj ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2002, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-bend-over/122328/51 "2002-08-05T18:07:33Z")
[Scouser] Calm down, calm down! [/Scouser] ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2002, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-bend-over/122328/52 "2002-08-05T18:17:14Z")
[Scouser] Calm down, calm down! [/Scouser] ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2002, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-bend-over/122328/53 "2002-08-05T18:30:22Z")
DJ > [@](#): > > You wanna suck my what? Is a veiled reference to sucking a penis supposed to be an insult of some kind? So far, in your lecture on ethics, you have called me a jerk, a jerk off, a prententious fuck, an ass, a hypocrite, a bitch, and a fuckwad — all the while lamenting that I called myself an Injun. The people who matter to me have been supportive of me in this thread. You owe gay men (and enlightened women) an apology. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ace_of_Swords)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2002, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-bend-over/122328/54 "2002-08-05T18:37:05Z")
By the power of GreySkull, I declare the following: **Libertarian** , due to the unusually flippant, passive-agressive and cavlier nature of your recent posts, you are hereby given a weeks shore leave from the SDMB. May you return refreshed. **The SDMB** : You are hereby banned from bashing Libertarian for the upcoming week. Y’all chill, ya hear? **Squish** : An over-the-top attack, if a correct one. One week sentence of community service – making mountains into molehills. **Dalovin’ DJ** : For his libelous assualts yoga and attempted murder of the english language, the maximum the guidelines will allow – One week at lamaze class while listening to these “Million-Dollar Vocabulary” tapes. He may _not_ entice single mothers to “touch his nuts” without written permission from this authority. That is all, Skel. ---
**Author:** ![dalovindj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@dalovindj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalovindj)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2002, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-bend-over/122328/55 "2002-08-05T18:39:38Z")
How do you know I was talking about a penis? And it aint just that you called yourself an injun. You suggested that people were using it as a motivation to attack you. This was not the case. You were looking for pity which you claim you do not do. You were bitching at other people who were complaining in the only forum where you are allowed to complain. Would you like me to make a list of all the people who were in disagreement with you in that thread. Then we can get a better idea of who’s opinions are unimportant to you (i.e. any that disagree). > [@](#): > > So far, in your lecture on ethics, you have called me a jerk, a jerk off, a prententious fuck, an ass, a hypocrite, a bitch, and a fuckwad At least I have accuracy going for me. DaLovin’ Dj ---
**Author:** ![dalovindj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@dalovindj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalovindj)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2002, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-bend-over/122328/56 "2002-08-05T18:46:57Z")
Listen, **Ace0Spades** , I’m hanging out with a bunch of single mothers this weekend, so can you just sign a bunch of them permission forms and leave em blank? I’ll fill in the names as the need arises :_cough_:. I’ll be sure to send them to the central office of the hampstersfederation via fed-ex, so they are on file in the event of any mishaps with my nuts. DaLovin’ Dj ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2002, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-bend-over/122328/57 "2002-08-05T19:05:34Z")
> [@](#): > > How do you know I was talking about a penis? If you insist on being disingenuous, who can stop you? > [@](#): > > And it aint just that you called yourself an injun. It ain’t? > [@](#): > > You suggested that people were using it as a motivation to attack you. Correction. You’re suggesting that. > [@](#): > > You were looking for pity which you claim you do not do. Pity? From the likes of you? Is this some sick joke? > [@](#): > > You were bitching at other people who were complaining in the only forum where you are allowed to complain. And you’re bitching at me simply because you don’t like me. Now, don’t lie. Tell the truth. > [@](#): > > Would you like me to make a list of all the people who were in disagreement with you in that thread. […sinister wringing of hands… …Jack Nicholson glare…] Yes, I would. > [@](#): > > Then we can get a better idea of who’s opinions are unimportant to you (i.e. any that disagree). Oh, I thought a lot of those people’s opinions were important. That’s why I took them seriously. It’s your opinion that I don’t care about. > [@](#): > > At least I have accuracy going for me. I suggest that what you have going for you is a grandiose sense of self-importance and a nearly psychotic take on what is important in life. I think you’re wasting a lot of bandwidth with this. But carry on if you must. * * * Ace I’m fine, but thanks for the kindness of your concern. ---
**Author:** ![Squish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Squish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squish)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2002, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-bend-over/122328/58 "2002-08-05T19:24:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ace0Spades \* > \*\*By the power of GreySkull, I declare the following: > **Squish** : An over-the-top attack, if a correct one. One week sentence of community service – making mountains into molehills. \*\* \ I accept my punishment and will carry it out to the best of my ability. My opening post was hyperbolic and the metaphor was chosen, because to me, Lib wanted very much to be a victim and I thought it suited the case to oblige him. \ ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2002, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-bend-over/122328/59 "2002-08-05T19:28:23Z")
Aw, you were thinking of my feelings. How nice. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2002, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-bend-over/122328/60 "2002-08-05T19:31:52Z")
> [@](#): > > **AceOSpades** : By the power of GreySkull, I declare the following … I second all four points, and further suggest that we all sit down, [have a drink](http://216.232.71.251/~larry/hemanwhisky.gif), and be friends. Oh, and **Lib** ’s right in this case. Whoops, it just slipped out. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-bend-over/122328.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-bend-over/122328.md?page=4)