# Libertarian is a bully, a bully, bully **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 6, 2004, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-is-a-bully-a-bully-bully/232835 "2004-03-06T09:24:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Edlyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8797f3/32.png) [@Edlyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edlyn)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2004, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-is-a-bully-a-bully-bully/232835/101 "2004-03-06T15:19:11Z")
> [@Epimetheus](#): > > Wow **lib** , are you admitting that you rile people up so that you can get pitted and have a laugh with your wife about it privately? And how is that different from a troll? Nah, and I usually don’t laugh. This pit thread, however, is priceless. Can’t remember the last time I’ve laughed so much! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2004, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-is-a-bully-a-bully-bully/232835/102 "2004-03-06T15:19:40Z")
> [@Never Have I Because I](#): > > iampunha, I don’t think … Given your stellar display in this thread, that much is plainly evident. Really, dude, you don’t want to get in deeper. ---
**Author:** ![imthjckaz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/imthjckaz/32/3223_2.png) [@imthjckaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/imthjckaz)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2004, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-is-a-bully-a-bully-bully/232835/103 "2004-03-06T15:20:13Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally Posted by Fenris > _ **Also, I see no need for Lib to cater to the lowest common denominator. The fact that you can’t understand his argument is your problem, not his.** _ I agree, Lib shouldn’t be expected to ‘dumbdown’ a response just so that NHIBI can understand. If big words give you a problem NHIBI, try using a [dictionary](http://www.m-w.com/home.htm) to find out what they mean. If you trouble verbalizing words, this [site](http://www.hop.com/index.jhtml;jsessionid=N4SG1AK1VWTCZQFIZDECFEWAVDEGIIV0?flashTest=true) may be for you. ---
**Author:** ![Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Never_Have_I_Because_I)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2004, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-is-a-bully-a-bully-bully/232835/104 "2004-03-06T15:21:15Z")
> [@iampunha](#): > > Given your stellar display in this thread, that much is plainly evident. Really, dude, you don’t want to get in deeper. Wow, selective parsing. Real mature. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2004, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-is-a-bully-a-bully-bully/232835/105 "2004-03-06T15:24:51Z")
> [@Never Have I Because I](#): > > what are you talking about? it’s what i’ve seen. i’d like to see evidence to the contrary, and get a better of an idea of rational libertarians! But apparently, if he provided this, you’d whine that it was “too hard to understand” and that it “makes yer haid hurt”. I looked for something at your apparent level of comprehension on the net, but I can’t find a “Dick and Jane’s Guide to Libertarianism” Hm… Let’s try to do one for you, shall we ( **Lib** , tell me if I’m summarizing your posistion pretty closely) “Property” means “stuff” See Dick. See Dick’s property. See Goofus _take_ Dick’s property. Taking Dick’s property without Dick’s consent is _bad_. Bad Goofus, bad! See Jane. See Goofus initiate force against Jane. Initiating force against Jane is naughty. Naughty Goofus! See Jane shoot Goofus to protect herself. Protecting yourself against the inititation of force is _good_! Good Jane! 🙂 See Goofus go to the libertarian government to try to get them to pass laws to allow him to take Dick’s stuff and initiate force against Jane. Silly, silly Goofus. Libertarian governments primary function is to protect against those things. See President Mittens laugh at Goofus as her chief of staff “Tip” throws Goofus out. See Goofus vow eternal revenge! Silly, silly Goofus. See Goofus find a third-world country. See Goofus and his hired goons form a totalitarian dictatorship. Goofus is planning to use his country to attack President Mittens and destroy Libertaria. See the peasants under Goofus’s authortarian regime of terror revolt and lop off Goofus’s head. This is ok as they were defending themselves from Goofus. Hooray for everyone except Goofus. 🙂 Poor Goofus! ☹ Fenris PS: You have now read every L. Neil Smith novel ever written except one. And if I’d thrown in something about sentient space-squids, you’d have read that one too. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Never_Have_I_Because_I)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2004, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-is-a-bully-a-bully-bully/232835/106 "2004-03-06T15:27:11Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > But apparently, if he provided this, you’d whine that it was “too hard to understand” and that it “makes yer haid hurt”. Wow, awesome, you can generalize! Good job on being condescending! I said all along he used big words to obfuscate his meanings/make him look more intelligent. ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2004, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-is-a-bully-a-bully-bully/232835/107 "2004-03-06T15:27:26Z")
> [@Never Have I Because I](#): > > Wow, selective parsing. Real mature. :rolleyes: Thanks for the advice. It is especially valuable from one so astute as you, who pitted **Lib** over not much more than “WAAH YER SMARTER’N ME! NO FAAAAAAIR!” Even the sentient space squids know that… ---
**Author:** ![Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Never_Have_I_Because_I)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2004, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-is-a-bully-a-bully-bully/232835/108 "2004-03-06T15:29:45Z")
> [@iampunha](#): > > Thanks for the advice. It is especially valuable from one so astute as you, who pitted **Lib** over not much more than “WAAH YER SMARTER’N ME! NO FAAAAAAIR!” Even the sentient space squids know that… No, I didn’t. Care to post where I did? All I was saying was that he was using big words and famous names to make himself look smarter than he is. And to obfuscate his meanings by doing so. ---
**Author:** ![Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Never_Have_I_Because_I)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2004, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-is-a-bully-a-bully-bully/232835/109 "2004-03-06T15:34:48Z")
iampunha and libertarian, i am sorry, can you ever forgive me? ---
**Author:** ![Windwalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/5e9695/32.png) [@Windwalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Windwalker)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2004, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-is-a-bully-a-bully-bully/232835/110 "2004-03-06T15:34:49Z")
Gosh, it’s threads like these that remind me why I love the SDMB 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Never_Have_I_Because_I)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2004, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-is-a-bully-a-bully-bully/232835/111 "2004-03-06T15:36:13Z")
> [@Windwalker](#): > > Gosh, it’s threads like these that remind me why I love the SDMB 😃 I think it has been a great gift for all, except for me. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2004, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-is-a-bully-a-bully-bully/232835/112 "2004-03-06T15:37:08Z")
> [@Never Have I Because I](#): > > Wow, awesome, you can generalize! Good job on being condescending! Thanks! I was trying to be, but wasn’t sure, given how dim you appear to be, that you’d grasp the fact that you were being insulted. I’m glad I was able to communicate on your level. (“communicate” means “talk”. Don’t want you confused by any big words). On the other hand, I’m kind of disappointed (“disappointed”=“saddened”) by the lack of gratitude (“gratitude”=“thanks”) for having summarized both the libertarian philosophy _and_ every L. Neil Smith novel (except the “space squids” one) for you. ☹ > [@](#): > > I said all along he used big words to obfuscate his meanings/make him look more intelligent. Or, perhaps, he uses “big words” because the big word is more nuanced (“nuanced”=“accurate”. Um…“accurate” means “closer to”) and better communicates (I defined “communicates” above.) what he’s trying to say? The only way that “big words” would obfuscate (who taught you that one? _I_ certainly didn’t define it for you.) is if he was using them inaccurately (“inaccurately” means “wrong”). And since you admitted (“admitted”=“said”) that you don’t understand what they mean, you’re hardly in a position to judge whether he was using them correctly (“correctly”=“right”). Fenris ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2004, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-is-a-bully-a-bully-bully/232835/113 "2004-03-06T15:38:01Z")
> [@Never Have I Because I](#): > > Stop trolling, too. I mean it. Anybody wanna peanut? ---
**Author:** ![Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Never_Have_I_Because_I)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2004, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-is-a-bully-a-bully-bully/232835/114 "2004-03-06T15:40:18Z")
Fenris, thanks for defining me by a few message board posts. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2004, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-is-a-bully-a-bully-bully/232835/115 "2004-03-06T15:41:13Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > And since you admitted (“admitted”=“said”) that you don’t understand what they mean, you’re hardly in a position to judge whether he was using them correctly (“correctly”=“right”). > > Fenris Fenris, you are a precious gift. ---
**Author:** ![Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Never_Have_I_Because_I)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2004, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-is-a-bully-a-bully-bully/232835/116 "2004-03-06T15:42:23Z")
Can I somehow prove I’m more intelligent than you guys seem to think I am? I feel like I’m talking with a bunch of people who are as smart as they think I am. ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2004, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-is-a-bully-a-bully-bully/232835/117 "2004-03-06T15:44:52Z")
> [@Never Have I Because I](#): > > Can I somehow prove I’m more intelligent than you guys seem to think I am? _Too_ hilarious! ---
**Author:** ![Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Never_Have_I_Because_I)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2004, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-is-a-bully-a-bully-bully/232835/118 "2004-03-06T15:45:59Z")
> [@yosemitebabe](#): > > _Too_ hilarious! GET OUT 😉 ---
**Author:** ![imthjckaz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/imthjckaz/32/3223_2.png) [@imthjckaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/imthjckaz)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2004, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-is-a-bully-a-bully-bully/232835/119 "2004-03-06T15:48:00Z")
> [@Never Have I Because I](#): > > Can I somehow prove I’m more intelligent than you guys seem to think I am? Yes. Tell us the 3 words that end in ‘gry’. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Never_Have_I_Because_I)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2004, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-is-a-bully-a-bully-bully/232835/120 "2004-03-06T15:48:51Z")
> [@imthjckaz](#): > > Yes. > > Tell us the 3 words that end in ‘gry’. > > 😃 Angry, Hungry, and BIG WORDS 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-is-a-bully-a-bully-bully/232835.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-is-a-bully-a-bully-bully/232835.md?page=7)