# Libertarian: Newlywed Game Remark **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [May 30, 2000, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-newlywed-game-remark/20846 "2000-05-30T02:25:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![pinqy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a3d4f5/32.png) [@pinqy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinqy)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2000, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-newlywed-game-remark/20846/101 "2000-06-12T19:12:45Z")
> [@](#): > > If, in the course of a debate, I began my argument with you thus, “You’re an idiot who comprehends only small words,” would you truly be foolish enough to rejoin me? Please point out where I called you an idiot, or otherwise insulted you. You had just completely ignored what I had actually posted and claimed that I was saying something completely different. You clearly either did not understand what I was saying, or deliberately chose to ignore it in favor of a strawman (at least I can’t think of another explanation). Since I would prefer to believe ignorance than deliberate deceit, I tried to make my position clearer. I prefaced those remarks with a movie quote, as a bit of a joke. Nowhere in my messages did I ever disparage or insult you. Now, I laughed my ass off at your response to that, I thought it was funny. But in light of the above quoted post to samclem, now I’m wondering if you were actually trying for insulting sarcasm rather than the humorous kind I thought. pinqy ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-newlywed-game-remark/20846/102 "2003-02-10T01:03:59Z")
Here’s a blast from the past. I just saw Bob Eubanks, in a show called “Most Outrageous Game Show Moments”, produced in 2002. He introduced this clip, along with an apology to all the people he told over the years that it never happened. He also said that when he was invited to participate in this show, his first instinct was not to do it, knowing that they had the clip and were planning to show it… They rolled the clip. There is, as was amply established above, no doubt that she says, “In the ass.” There was no bleep sound, merely a sound drop for a moment. So - no news about the clip, but an update about Eubanks. - Rick ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-newlywed-game-remark/20846/103 "2003-02-10T01:08:15Z")
What is this, National Resurrect Dead Threads Week? 😃 So, thirty months later, **Libertarian** is vindicated! That is a good thing to hear! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-newlywed-game-remark/20846/104 "2003-02-10T01:36:10Z")
This clip was also shown in _Confessions of a Dangerous Mind_. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-newlywed-game-remark/20846/105 "2003-02-10T01:45:29Z")
Was it uncensored in _Confessions_? ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-newlywed-game-remark/20846/106 "2003-02-10T02:02:36Z")
**Polycarp** said > [@](#): > > So, thirty months later, Libertarian is vindicated! That is a good thing to hear! Please don’t do this. He WASN’T vindicated. There is still no evidence that **Lib** saw such a video where the contestant actually **verbalized** any words that resemble _butt, ass_ or anything related. He didn’t. He may have seen an outake wherein the contestant said such a thing on the film, but the offending word(s) were bleeped. The outake film involved has been shown on tv. No one disputes that. If someone tell me that Lib saw it on tv in 1988, I won’t dispute them. But if they tell me Lib **heard** the contestant on tv **say** “up the butt” or “in the butt” or “in the ass”, then I’ll call such a person a liar. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-newlywed-game-remark/20846/107 "2003-02-10T02:08:20Z")
Damn! What I meant by saying that the contestant didn’t **verbalize** the offending words was: The contestant actually spoke the words. No one can dispute that. The offending words in the clip were never allowed to be verbalized on tv. They were always bleeped. So, again, no one watching that clip on tv, has heard those words. That’s what I meant. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-newlywed-game-remark/20846/108 "2003-02-10T02:08:50Z")
As I said in the original thread way back in the Triassic era, a person who says they saw something on TV many years ago that they didn’t actual see is more likely to be simply misremembering than to be lying. Memory is a tricky thing. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-newlywed-game-remark/20846/109 "2003-02-10T02:13:40Z")
And now I need to soften my stupid statement > [@](#): > > But if they tell me Lib heard the contestant on tv say “up the butt” or “in the butt” or “in the ass”, then I’ll call such a person a liar. Lib never “heard” any of those phrases on tv. If you believe that Lib did, you’re not a liar. You believe Lib. But he’s mistaken. ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-newlywed-game-remark/20846/110 "2003-02-10T04:37:22Z")
The clip was uncensored in _Confessions_. I had seen it before on one of the previous “game show outtakes” shows a year or two ago, and recognized it as the same clip. (It was a great movie, by the way–I highly recommend it.) ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-newlywed-game-remark/20846/111 "2003-02-10T05:24:25Z")
—I just saw Bob Eubanks, in a show called “Most Outrageous Game Show Moments”, produced in 2002.— Ditto (though when did you “just” see it? Did they replay it: I wanted to tape it, cus they had some great segments (much funnier) in there). Still unexplained is how Eubanks could have ever forgotten something like that. As his clips from Roger and Me show, he seems to be quite tickled by crude sexual humor, and you’d think that this would be a story he’d repeat quite a bit. ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-newlywed-game-remark/20846/112 "2003-02-10T05:29:20Z")
From Roger Ebert’s “Movie Answer Man” column today: > [@](#): > > _Q. “Confessions of a Dangerous Mind,” the fantasy-biography of TV producer Chuck Barris, revives an old debate surrounding “The Newlywed Game.” In the film, we see a clip from the game show in which host Bob Eubanks asks a young wife named Olga, “Where is the oddest place you have ever had the urge to make whoopee?” After some bashful hemming and hawing, the woman answers, “In the ----.” Her husband laughs heartily while Eubanks, stunned, tries to rephrase the question. Now, it was my understanding that this “Newlywed Game” moment was an urban legend, and that Eubanks had denied that such an exchange ever took place. Did the creators of “Confessions of a Dangerous Mind” unearth the original risque footage, or did they simply fabricate the clip in imitation of the legend?_ > > Maureen Stabile, Streamwood > > A. Director George Clooney tells me he thought it was an urban legend, too, until Barris produced the actual footage. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-newlywed-game-remark/20846/113 "2003-02-10T11:27:45Z")
I don’t know whether to :eek: or to :rolleyes:, so I’ll just :D. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-newlywed-game-remark/20846/114 "2003-02-10T13:35:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Apos \* > Ditto (though when did you “just” see it? Did they replay it: I wanted to tape it, cus they had some great segments (much funnier) in there). Last night on VH1. I’m not usually a VH1 watcher, so if it’s been in constant replay over the last six months. I have no way of knowing. - Rick ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-newlywed-game-remark/20846/115 "2003-02-10T13:42:35Z")
There is actual footage(that doesn’t seem to mach up with what **Libertarian** claims to have seen), but we still have one question that hasn’t been answered afaik. Was this footage originally aired on national television, or was it a censored outake that was cut from the show and kept in a vault? If it never aired until the outtakes special from 2002, then **Lib** never saw it. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-newlywed-game-remark/20846/116 "2003-02-10T13:50:59Z")
I have read all these threads, and I can’t believe the furore involved. However, a theory: was the program aired live when it first came out, or was it pre-recorded? If live, **Lib** could both have seen and heard it during its original broadcast. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-newlywed-game-remark/20846/117 "2003-02-10T14:47:27Z")
Well, as I already said before, this is not the one that I recall. The response was from the man. I’m not really sure whether what I saw was an out-take or not, only that my roommate at the time saw it with me, and we later verified that a woman in Louisiana saw it around the time that we did. Someone suggested that we might have seen an SNL skit or something. I have conceded that that is possible. The only thing that I will not concede as possible is any assertion that is similar to the one Eubanks made, namely that nothing like it ever happened. ---
**Author:** ![TVAA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c57346/32.png) [@TVAA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVAA)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-newlywed-game-remark/20846/118 "2003-02-10T15:34:17Z")
I think the one thing that we can _all_ agree on is that **Libertarian** is wrong. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-newlywed-game-remark/20846/119 "2003-02-10T16:43:57Z")
Some people are so militantly skeptical on this board that they become as blind to truth as the most gullible among us. There are few people less rational than an intelligent person who can’t admit they’re wrong. Everyone would do well to remember this fallacy, one too often overlooked during debates around here: Ad argumentum ignorantium If there is no evidence FOR P; then NOT P. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-newlywed-game-remark/20846/120 "2003-02-10T16:57:42Z")
I still don’t believe it. 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-newlywed-game-remark/20846.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libertarian-newlywed-game-remark/20846.md?page=7)