# Libya too?! **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [February 16, 2011, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libya-too/571595 "2011-02-16T16:37:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 95
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2011, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libya-too/571595/1881 "2011-09-18T02:07:16Z")
UN recognized NTC. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2011, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libya-too/571595/1882 "2011-09-18T02:24:53Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > NATO, in its stated mission to “protect civilians” from Gaddaffi’s forces, but not from the rebel forces, has ensured that feeling. > > That said, it’s over, this is the finish. It’ll be ugly, and vicious, but it’s about over. I simply hope that the Western governments are happy with what they get, in a “be careful what you wish for” sort of way. This is more of a “roll the dice, Gaddafi is so bad you almost have to do better” situation - even quite a few dictators do better for their people than he did, after all. The Libyan people themselves obviously agree; they too are in a position of having to worry about what the results will be, but thought it was worth the gamble. And they thought it was worth fighting and dying over, not just spending money on drones and such. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2011, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libya-too/571595/1883 "2011-09-18T03:07:19Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > I simply hope that the Western governments are happy with what they get, in a “be careful what you wish for” sort of way. There’s good reason to expect it will be a Western-friendly government, at any rate. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2011, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libya-too/571595/1884 "2011-09-21T21:38:57Z")
[The rebels have finally taken Sabha.](http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2011/09/201192185259104254.html) Still fighting for Bani Walid and Sirte. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2011, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libya-too/571595/1885 "2011-09-22T04:43:03Z")
Could someone identify the “thing” (weapon?) painted with the Libyan flag’s colours [on this picture](http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/spotlight/libya/)? ---
**Author:** ![straight\_man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straight_man/32/3027_2.png) [@straight\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/straight_man)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2011, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libya-too/571595/1886 "2011-09-22T07:00:14Z")
Your link no longer shows the right picture; but having glanced at it when it did, I would assume it’s a very low-calibre multiple rocket launcher, though I’ve never seen a cylindrical one before. If I’m correct, the pointy things sticking out front were the heads of the rockets and the back end was a vent (or whatever the correct term is). An expert on the topic I am not, as you can tell. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libya-too/571595/1887 "2011-10-04T14:39:09Z")
[Jibril promises to resign from government as soon as the war ends.](http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2011/10/2011103124138235256.html) Hm. OK, so if this revolution produces any new strongman I guess it won’t be him. ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2011, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libya-too/571595/1888 "2011-10-04T17:26:34Z")
Yes, because no wannabe-strongman ever promised to resign in the near future. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libya-too/571595/1889 "2011-10-05T01:27:52Z")
> [@Punoqllads](#): > > Yes, because no wannabe-strongman ever promised to resign in the near future. This obviously ain’t a situation where he could get away with **not** resigning. If it were that, there would already be his plants clamoring for him to stay. And I can understand why Jibril would rather let somebody else take on the headache from this point. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libya-too/571595/1890 "2011-10-17T21:26:19Z")
[Bani Walid falls!](http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2011/10/2011101713437351911.html) But there’s still one last pocket of resistance in Sirte. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libya-too/571595/1891 "2011-10-20T11:57:45Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > [Bani Walid falls!](http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2011/10/2011101713437351911.html) But there’s still one last pocket of resistance in Sirte. Sirte has fallen, and the new government is reporting the capture of Qaddaffi. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Kobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Mr.Kobayashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Kobayashi)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libya-too/571595/1892 "2011-10-20T12:06:42Z")
BBC reporting he’s been captured: > **[Libyan forces 'capture Gaddafi'](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15385955)** > > Forces loyal to Libya's transitional authorities say they have captured Col Muammar Gaddafi, with some reports saying he has been killed. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libya-too/571595/1893 "2011-10-20T12:18:09Z")
Wikipedia says he’s dead. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libya-too/571595/1894 "2011-10-20T12:24:17Z")
So does the Times of London: > [@](#): > > 1306 BST The picture is still pretty murky. Reuters has spoken to two NTC officials who say that Colonel Gaddafi was wounded as he tried to flee Sirte in a convoy attacked by Nato warplanes. > > One official, Abdel Majid Mlegta, said that he was captured and wounded in both legs. > > The other official said: “He was also hit in his head,. There was a lot of firing against his group and he died.” (No link since it’s behind a pay wall. Yes, I subscribed so I could fire off an angry letter to The Times!) We’ll see. CNN says it’s still unconfirmed… ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libya-too/571595/1895 "2011-10-20T12:51:43Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > We’ll see. CNN says it’s still unconfirmed… Until then, he’s Schroedinger’s Dictator. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libya-too/571595/1896 "2011-10-20T12:58:41Z")
It’s just a flesh wound! ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libya-too/571595/1897 "2011-10-20T13:01:50Z")
This thread was started on February 16th. What a long strange trip it’s been. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libya-too/571595/1898 "2011-10-20T14:08:07Z")
Finally the end (whether or not he’s alive). I’m greatly satisfied, and I’m going to the neighborhood cafe to buy a round and celebrate. :):):):)🙂 I wish I could send some congratulations to Libyans, but I don’t know how/where to do that. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libya-too/571595/1899 "2011-10-20T14:23:40Z")
Video, not gonna link to it, confirms death. Two to go. ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libya-too/571595/1900 "2011-10-20T16:33:27Z")
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