# Libya too?! **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [February 16, 2011, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libya-too/571595 "2011-02-16T16:37:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 1260
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libya-too/571595/1260 "2011-04-23T00:08:30Z")
> [@Commissar](#): > > My position is that, in order to maintain global peace and human freedom, national sovereignty must be entirely absolute. As usual, readers should note that this is not Commissar’s actual position, at all. His actual position(s) on sovereignty vary depending on whether or not he’s offering up an apologia for tyrants and thugs who are anti-western. When discussing the Chinese, for example, his position morphs into: > [@I Pit the Empire](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-empire/559559/386): > > > [@I Pit the Empire](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-the-empire/559559/381): > > > > So I assume that the glorious People’s Republic of China, having learned that lesson, will be leaving Tibet next week or thereabouts? > > For the sake of the Tibetans, I sure hope not. China and Tibet have a long history of unity, with the latter being a subset of the prior for much of its existence. Also, contrary to popular Imperial myths, Tibet was a feudal, backward cesspool of filth and ignorance prior to its most recent liberation, rather than some Disney-esque Buddhist paradise. Beijing’s rule has brought Tibet not only into the 21st century, but also into the 20th, the 19th, and perhaps even the 18th. > > Iraq, on the other hand, has no relationship to the Empire, did not do anything to the Empire, and has not been made any better off thanks to your savage occupation of it. Unlike China, you do not liberate your brethren so that they can enjoy better lives; you slaughter complete strangers for the sheer hell of it. As for why, all of a sudden, Commissar has developed an abiding respect for sovereignty and a dislike of (even alleged) aggressive, imperialistic warfare, and why he keeps alleging that the mostly-western audience of this board are a pack of “Crusader” states, despite the obviously erroneous nature of such a slur? I’ll leave that as an exercise for those reading along. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/libya-too/571595)._