# Lidsville? What the heck... **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 24, 2004, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lidsville-what-the-heck/241845 "2004-04-24T21:58:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2004, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lidsville-what-the-heck/241845/41 "2004-04-29T01:13:17Z")
Sid and Marty Krofft … _oy_! Even when I was a kid I found their shows aggressively annoying. That’s why I don’t think in my entire life I’ve ever watched more than two complete episodes of either \* Lidsville\* or _H.R. Pufnstuf_. (By the way, does anybody now think the talking flute on that show sounds a lot like Mr. Bill?) ---
**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2004, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lidsville-what-the-heck/241845/42 "2004-04-29T02:03:08Z")
Charles Nelson Reilley, along with Paul Lynde and Alan Suess from “Laugh In” are people whose very existance seemed to be for the purpose of being wacky and appealing to kids on television. Until decades later when you discover what their persona _really_ indicated (not that I’m convinced that CNR is gay). Anyway, I think “Lidsville” was indeed my favorite Kroft production. I remember “The Bugaloos” being far too nauseating to consider watching, yet unlike the previous hour when there were several cartoon shows over which I had to agonize in choosing, there were few less nauseating alternatives. I usually wound up watching “Far Out Space Nuts”, which was basically “Dusty’s Trail” set in outer space. ---
**Author:** ![moriah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@moriah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moriah)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2004, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lidsville-what-the-heck/241845/43 "2004-04-29T05:18:56Z")
Is CNR gay? Is a clutch purse at the Emmies gay? Are black leather chaps over a bare ass gay? Are three dollar bills gay? Is hiding behind Mrs. Muir because one sees a “hlllll-hnnn, a ghost!” gay? Is loudly proclaiming, “I said _boobs_, Gene!” gay? Is “[openly gay funnyman, Charles Nelson Reilly](http://www.outsmartmagazine.com/issue/i11-01/animer.html)” gay? You be the judge. ---
**Author:** ![syncrolecyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f08c70/32.png) [@syncrolecyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/syncrolecyne)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2004, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lidsville-what-the-heck/241845/44 "2004-04-29T05:39:10Z")
This is not so far in the past, but does anyone else remember “D.C. Follies”? It was one of the last things the Krofft Bros. did that made it to TV. It was syndicated, and usually on at a really bad time slot, and featured puppets of ex-presidents in a bar in D.C. (Nixon would bump into Gerald Ford and say “Pardon me!” - oh what comedy). I think that pretty much was the last we’ve seen of them. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2004, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lidsville-what-the-heck/241845/45 "2004-04-29T05:56:55Z")
**Syncrolecyne** Yep. One episode had guest star Robert Englund, as Freddy Krueger, having a chat with televangelist Jim Baker. The puppeteers and a few puppets sometimes appeared on Hollywood squares. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2004, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lidsville-what-the-heck/241845/46 "2004-04-29T06:41:49Z")
Oh. My. God. When I saw the title of this thread, and read the OP, I was thinking, “Okay, as a kid in the '70s I was traumatized by _H.R. Puffinstuff_, enjoyed _Sigmund_ and _Land of the Lost_, and detested _Space Nuts_ and _Electra Woman_ (and that was before that bitch killed my beloved Jack Deveraux on _Days_!). So why the hell don’t I remember this show???” And then I clicked the link to the [Lidsville page on NostalgiaCentral](http://www.nostalgiacentral.com/tv/kids/lidsville.htm). And saw Hoodoo. And I remembered. ::_curls up in a fetal position, whispering_:: The horror! … The horror! Jerusalem H. Crickets, NOW I realize why I’ve been in therapy all these years. Hoodoo was like a much bigger, much louder, and only slightly campier version of the Oompa Loompas. He scared the BEJEEBUS out of me. Same goes for that \*#&#$^ Genie. Hmmm. Looking back, I think I had issues with brightly painted faces. ::_ **choie** glances warily at the smilies…_ :: ---
**Author:** ![Olentzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90ced4/32.png) [@Olentzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Olentzero)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2004, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lidsville-what-the-heck/241845/47 "2004-04-29T16:55:08Z")
> [@Moonchild](#): > > He clearly loved doing it and clearly loves being remembered for it. It sounds like it. I want to have no shame like CNR when I grow up. 😉 Since we’re mentioning him, I figured a nod to his latest incarnation, the Dirty Bubble, ought not to be out of place. Oh, and just look at his latest entry on [imdb.com](http://imdb.com) - that ought to put the question to rest. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2004, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lidsville-what-the-heck/241845/48 "2004-04-29T17:10:01Z")
> [@sqweels](#): > > I usually wound up watching “Far Out Space Nuts”, which was basically “Dusty’s Trail” set in outer space. Which itself was basically “Gilligan’s Island” set in the Old West. > [@syncrolecyne](#): > > This is not so far in the past, but does anyone else remember “D.C. Follies”? It was on in the early '90s; Fred Willard played the bartender. Pretty good show, as I recall. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2004, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lidsville-what-the-heck/241845/49 "2004-04-29T17:50:46Z")
To be fair to Sid and Marty there were other kidde shows that were also scary and weird. Does anybody remember **Big John, Little John**? Not about any character in Robin Hood. A school teacher takes a sip from the fountain of youth and turns 12. But only for a little while. Hilarity was supposed to ensue as he had no controll over when he would change. Oh and theme was \*Big John has a problem as you can plainly see one minute he’s forty the next he’s thirty-three Big John keeps a-changeing befor your very eyes He’s twenty-five and then nineteen and then he’s twelve in size. Big John, Little John What a way to grow Big John, Little John He grew from high to low \* Of course I the idea that I would someday turn into an overwieight, bald school teacher was pretty freaky but I did wonder about how his wife reacted to the 12 year old husband. Then there was also **Run Joe Run**. Kind of like the Hulk in that Joe wandered around helping people while he was a fugitive from (un)justice. But Joe was a dog. An army trained German Shepard and I seem to recall that Joe had _flashbacks._ I found the flashbacks kind of weird. ---
**Author:** ![Shockaholics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Shockaholics](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shockaholics)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lidsville-what-the-heck/241845/50 "2017-05-24T01:01:28Z")
And I thought the Dirty Bubble was CNR’s trippiest role. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lidsville-what-the-heck/241845/51 "2017-05-24T01:28:45Z")
I just want to say that[Butch Patrick](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0665822/?ref_=tt_cl_t3) has the _weirdest_ collection of IMDB entries I have ever seen. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lidsville-what-the-heck/241845/52 "2017-05-24T18:03:47Z")
You see in the late 60s and early 70s Saturday morning kids’ shows writer & producers did drugs. I mean a lot of drugs. Thus Sigmund and the Sea Monsters, Lidsville, H.R. Puffinstuff and the rest. Hell even Scooby Doo had some serious stoner elements and that was tame compared to everything by Sid and Marty Krofft. ---
**Author:** ![Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maggie_the_Ocelot)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2017, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lidsville-what-the-heck/241845/53 "2017-05-24T18:34:40Z")
**goes back 40-odd posts and 13-odd years** > [@Fenris](#): > > . > > They also did the fondly remembered “Sid And Marty Krofft Variety Show” (not quite the right title) It was The Krofft Supershow here in L.A. It was weird, but I would watch it if I had nothing better to do. Sigmund and Electra-Woman and Dyna-Girl were my favorites. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lidsville-what-the-heck/241845/54 "2017-05-25T17:52:34Z")
Ah, I didn’t think I’d ever seen Lidsville, but I remember Genie. So I guess I saw a few bits and pieces and conflated them with Pufnstuf, who I definitely remember. Land of the Lost bored me as a kid. Far Out Space Nuts and the Jim Nabors/Ruth Buzzi Lost Saucer were both lame even to a 5 year old me. And it was a very specific scene in Electrawoman and Dynagirl that first clued me that there might be something…special…about women. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lidsville-what-the-heck/241845/55 "2017-05-25T18:57:28Z")
> [@Hypno-Toad](#): > > Ah, I didn’t think I’d ever seen Lidsville, but I remember Genie. So I guess I saw a few bits and pieces and conflated them with Pufnstuf Easy to do given that Billie Hayes played similar characters in both. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lidsville-what-the-heck/241845/56 "2017-05-25T19:23:14Z")
> [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](#): > > **goes back 40-odd posts and 13-odd years** > > It was The Krofft Supershow here in L.A. It was weird, but I would watch it if I had nothing better to do. Sigmund and Electra-Woman and Dyna-Girl were my favorites. They had two. _The Krofft Supershow_ in 1976/77 and _the Krofft Superstar Hour_ in 1978. They were technically the same show, but the Superstar Hour changed formats, moved to NBC and added the Bay City Rollers ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lidsville-what-the-heck/241845/57 "2017-05-25T19:25:45Z")
Read this whole zombie thread, and there’s not one mention of **Bigfoot and Wildboy**. I misspent my entire youth. ---
**Author:** ![Weisshund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba8739/32.png) [@Weisshund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weisshund)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lidsville-what-the-heck/241845/58 "2017-05-25T21:23:05Z")
Lidsville and HR Puff N Stuff are the main reasons i attribute to never taking drugs. And i was not even a little kid when those came out. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lidsville-what-the-heck/241845/59 "2017-05-25T21:46:04Z")
> [@Max\_Torque](#): > > Read this whole zombie thread, and there’s not one mention of **Bigfoot and Wildboy**. I misspent my entire youth. Oh, sweet Jesus. I had somehow repressed the existence of that show years ago. Looking at images and YouTube clips it is all rushing back like some horrible repressed memory. Gah! ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lidsville-what-the-heck/241845/60 "2017-05-26T00:08:55Z")
> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#): > > They had two. _The Krofft Supershow_ in 1976/77 and _the Krofft Superstar Hour_ in 1978. They were technically the same show, but the Superstar Hour changed formats, moved to NBC and added the Bay City Rollers Oh good lord that just reminded me of [The Bugaloos](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1P8u92i-6w) Sorry if theyve already been mentioned [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lidsville-what-the-heck/241845.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lidsville-what-the-heck/241845.md?page=4)