# Lieberman - what are the dangers? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [August 14, 2000, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lieberman-what-are-the-dangers/29301 "2000-08-14T15:35:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![edwino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@edwino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwino)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2000, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lieberman-what-are-the-dangers/29301/21 "2000-08-17T04:32:22Z")
I laughed with glee the day I found out about Joe Lieberman. The Elders Of Zion have spoken. The endgame is upon us. The Worldwide Zionist Conspiracy will take hold. We already have our own the media, the banks, and a country with nukes. Now we will have a superpower. Next the world! :j No really, though, what’s the deal with this topic? It kind of reminds me of the line from Chris Rock’s “Bring the Pain” where he talks about why Colin Powell will never be nominated for the vice-presidency. He said something along the lines “5 million black men will have the president in the cross-hairs. S\*\*\*, even I’d shoot the president.” ---
**Author:** ![MysterEcks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f475e1/32.png) [@MysterEcks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysterEcks)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2000, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lieberman-what-are-the-dangers/29301/22 "2000-08-17T05:48:35Z")
The Associated Press reports that one Lawrence Franco, age 23, has been arrested for making a death threat against Joseph Lieberman during a call to _The Howard Stern Show._ Franco supposedly stated that Lieberman “is gonna take my bullet,” and when asked by Stern if he was making a threat, allegedly replied “I’m telling you right now… You got the killer on the air.” An individual identifying himself as Franco’s uncle claims it was all “a joke gone wrong.” Food for thought, in the context of this thread. ---
**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2000, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lieberman-what-are-the-dangers/29301/23 "2000-08-17T06:14:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Outrider \* > \*\* > [pit rant] > I hate it when people who think they are clever use witty gems like “oral office” that they probably heard on the Tonight Show. If you’re going to be lame, and least be originally lame. > [/pit rant] > > Tyler Durden: How’s that working out for you? > Narrator: What? > Tyler Durden: Being clever. > Narrator: Great. > Tyler Durden: Keep it up, then. > > -Fight Club > \*\* Wah. ---
**Author:** ![ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c77e96/32.png) [@ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ed)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2000, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lieberman-what-are-the-dangers/29301/24 "2000-08-17T06:45:46Z")
Quick hijack: > [@](#): > > Rick Lazio is now running for the ticket in New York. From what I understand, he was born there and lived there all his life, his family is from NY and his kids go to public school there. I don’t think NYers are stupid, hopefully they can see Hilary for the fake she is. Not that I’m really standing up for Hillary, I need to take a moment and point out that Lazio isn’t the ‘local boy’ for a majority of the state of New York. Most of the country, including NYC, underestimate the resentment that upstate NY has for “City Politicians”. While there is a lot of resentment of the Clintons, even the hard core conservatives around here aren’t that thrilled with Lazio. Yes, Hillary is a carpetbagger, but to most of New York State, so is Rick Lazio. ---
**Author:** ![Outrider](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/9d8465/32.png) [@Outrider](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Outrider)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2000, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lieberman-what-are-the-dangers/29301/25 "2000-08-17T13:38:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by GaWd \* > **Wah.** Oops…oh well, at least I hijacked my own thread 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2000, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lieberman-what-are-the-dangers/29301/26 "2000-08-17T16:28:53Z")
ed: > [@](#): > > Not that I’m really standing up for Hillary, I need to take a moment and point out that Lazio isn’t the ‘local boy’ for a majority of the state of New York. Most of the country, including NYC, underestimate the resentment that upstate NY has for “City Politicians”. Since he’s from Long Island rather than NYC, that resentment isn’t so much of a problem to him. Also, bear in mind that Chuck Schumer, a full-fledged city-dweller, quite handily won election over Al D’Amato in 1998. > [@](#): > > Yes, Hillary is a carpetbagger, but to most of New York State, so is Rick Lazio. No way. For a member of the House of Representatives, they might see him as such, but for a Senator, they certainly see him as closer to understanding their interests than Hillary. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2000, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lieberman-what-are-the-dangers/29301/27 "2000-08-17T18:02:22Z")
As far as Lieberman poisoning the Middle East peace process, wasn’t that fear pretty much laid to rest with Henry Kissinger? ---
**Author:** ![ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c77e96/32.png) [@ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ed)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2000, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lieberman-what-are-the-dangers/29301/28 "2000-08-18T02:40:26Z")
> [@](#): > > Since he’s from Long Island rather than NYC, that resentment isn’t so much of a problem to him. Also, bear in mind that Chuck Schumer, a full-fledged city-dweller, quite handily won election over Al D’Amato in 1998. Winning against D’Amato was an inevitability. He had become an embarrassment to just about everyone associated with him. Here in albany, even the hard line conservatives were sick of him. And being from Long Island is no great help, we tend to lump NYC and Long Island together anyways. > [@](#): > > No way. For a member of the House of Representatives, they might see him as such, but for a Senator, they certainly see him as closer to understanding their interests than Hillary. From the point of view of someone who lives in the middle of this, I can say that this is not the perception. Hillary has become extraordinarily popular in upstate NY, mostly because she knows that this is how she will win the most votes and has focused her campaign here. Remember that for upstate farmers, the interests of NYC and Long Island are often at odds with our own interests. I don’t really want to vote for Hillary, but Lazio would be a terrible representative of my interests. Third party again, I guess. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lieberman-what-are-the-dangers/29301.md?page=1)