# Lies about Tea-Partiers? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 13, 2010, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-about-tea-partiers/557036 "2010-10-13T19:27:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-about-tea-partiers/557036/21 "2010-10-13T23:32:23Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > > [@septimus](#): > > > > Are _ **any** _ of these quotes real? > > Do you have some kind of medical condition that renders you unable to use search engines? I’m thinking of starting a **septimus** -bashing thread; if I do, I hope you guys can do better than that! 😃 I don’t know how obvious it was, but my question quoted here was more than slightly tongue-in-cheek. In the nearby thread **Ill-fed Housepainter** seems to be claiming that only a few deranged rednecks, in the Tea Party almost by accident, are capable of anything but sublime wisdom. Assuming his comments are anything but twisted idiocy, these quotes _had_ to be forged. But based on reactions in this thread it seems to indeed be true that many of America’s present politicians are indeed the worst kind of execrable filth, who deserve treatment whose description might be unfit even for BBQ Pit. We all enjoy laughing about all this. Given the importance of America (with its economic and military might) to the future of mankind, I find all of this **profoundly sad**. It would incapacitate me if I weren’t able to tune it out. I’ve not visited North America for several years and would probably end up in a physical fight if I did visit and allowed myself to communicate with some of the natives. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-about-tea-partiers/557036/22 "2010-10-14T00:38:51Z")
Hell, go check out Free Republic sometime if you think this kind of thing is being exaggerated! ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-about-tea-partiers/557036/23 "2010-10-14T00:42:26Z")
> [@Hello\_Again](#): > > And just Sunday he told a group of orthodox rabbis, that he doesn’t want children being “brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality is an equally valid and successful option.” He tried to get his nephew, who is gay and a campaign staffer, to defend him from the subsequent uproar, but the nephew told the press (the NY Post, no less!) he was “very offended by his comments.” > > [http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/uncle\_slam\_gay\_nephew\_blasts\_carl\_gKUExcwnaEqJ6SdZ8WLugN](http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/uncle_slam_gay_nephew_blasts_carl_gKUExcwnaEqJ6SdZ8WLugN) I note that the story described said nephew as “hunky, 6 foot 2.” I’m not exactly sure what journalistic relevance this has… ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-about-tea-partiers/557036/24 "2010-10-14T01:01:08Z")
I went :eek: when I first read his name as [Jeff Gannon](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Gannon). ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-about-tea-partiers/557036/25 "2010-10-14T01:08:23Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > > [@Hello\_Again](#): > > > > And just Sunday he told a group of orthodox rabbis, that he doesn’t want children being “brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality is an equally valid and successful option.” He tried to get his nephew, who is gay and a campaign staffer, to defend him from the subsequent uproar, but the nephew told the press (the NY Post, no less!) he was “very offended by his comments.” > > > > [http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/uncle\_slam\_gay\_nephew\_blasts\_carl\_gKUExcwnaEqJ6SdZ8WLugN](http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/uncle_slam_gay_nephew_blasts_carl_gKUExcwnaEqJ6SdZ8WLugN) > > I note that the story described said nephew as “hunky, 6 foot 2.” I’m not exactly sure what journalistic relevance this has… You’ve never read the New York Post before, have you? ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-about-tea-partiers/557036/26 "2010-10-14T01:12:28Z")
I think Prison Cum Dorm 4 was my favorite of the series. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-about-tea-partiers/557036/27 "2010-10-14T03:23:04Z")
> [@Hello\_Again](#): > > And just Sunday he told a group of orthodox rabbis, that he doesn’t want children being “brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality is an equally valid and successful option.” He tried to get his nephew, who is gay and a campaign staffer, to defend him from the subsequent uproar, but the nephew told the press (the NY Post, no less!) he was “very offended by his comments.” Thanksgiving is going to be awkward this year. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-about-tea-partiers/557036/28 "2010-10-14T03:32:51Z")
> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#): > > (it was supposed to sound 'tarded). May I suggest that no special effort is necessary? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-about-tea-partiers/557036/29 "2010-10-14T03:40:07Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > > [@Inigo\_Montoya](#): > > > > (it was supposed to sound 'tarded). > > May I suggest that no special effort is necessary? 😉 Is this another example of how you never insult people till they insult you in a thread? Well I guess he did say retarded, I can see how you took that as him talking about you. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-about-tea-partiers/557036/30 "2010-10-14T03:48:51Z")
> [@boytyperanma](#): > > > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > > > May I suggest that no special effort is necessary? 😉 > > Is this another example of how you never insult people till they insult you in a thread? I said I try to make it a practice not to insult people unless they insult me first. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-about-tea-partiers/557036/31 "2010-10-14T03:52:51Z")
All of those quotes are real. Michele Bachmann has said even stupider things than that. She can’t even spell her own first name correctly. ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-about-tea-partiers/557036/32 "2010-10-14T04:13:52Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > > [@boytyperanma](#): > > > > Is this another example of how you never insult people till they insult you in a thread? > > I said I try to make it a practice not to insult people unless they insult me first. I see. You just don’t try very hard. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-about-tea-partiers/557036/33 "2010-10-14T04:22:40Z")
I try hard enough. I may lose track on rare occasion and insult someone who hasn’t insulted me first, but I think my track record is pretty damn good. Plus I’ll happily apologize if someone points out to me where I’ve done that. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-about-tea-partiers/557036/34 "2010-10-14T04:33:12Z")
Give SA a break. he has to defend the undefensible, he has to justify the unjustifiable and pretend the dingbats in the party are actually thinking caring people. It can not be easy. He has to make peace with a group that backs O’Connell, Bachmann, Robinson, Angle, Paladino and many others. Poor guy has to spend a lot of time in fantasy land to get there. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-about-tea-partiers/557036/35 "2010-10-14T04:44:24Z")
The fact that I have no peace to make with any particualar group notwithstanding, are you suggesting that I should passively sit by while inaccurate or untrue statements are made about the Tea Party or Tea Party candidates simply because they may be in the wrong in other areas? I thought we were supposed to be fighting ignorance here. Or are we supposed to just let it go unchallenged because it serves the ‘greater good’? ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-about-tea-partiers/557036/36 "2010-10-14T04:51:21Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > are you suggesting that I should passively sit by while inaccurate or untrue statements are made about the Tea Party or Tea Party candidates simply because they may be in the wrong in other areas? These are some pretty big areas. ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-about-tea-partiers/557036/37 "2010-10-14T05:09:00Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I try hard enough. I may lose track on rare occasion and insult someone who hasn’t insulted me first, but I think my track record is pretty damn good. Your track record on this board is shit. > [@](#): > > Plus I’ll happily apologize if someone points out to me where I’ve done that. Unless of course someone takes the time and effort to point out where you have done so, then you just accuse them of lying. ---
**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-about-tea-partiers/557036/38 "2010-10-14T05:26:33Z")
> [@](#): > > Tea party-backed candidate Sharron Angle: > > > [@](#): > > > > Quote: > > This woman also believes we should get rid of the Veteran’s Administration and said essentially that big government equates Godlessness, because Americans then look to the government to provide from them as opposed to God. I heard rumors about Obama trying to impose Sharia law on America. Thank Allah, the Tea Baggers have come up with their own version. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-about-tea-partiers/557036/39 "2010-10-14T05:39:31Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I try hard enough. I may lose track on rare occasion and insult someone who hasn’t insulted me first, but I think my track record is pretty damn good. Plus I’ll happily apologize if someone points out to me where I’ve done that. Yep, all someone has to do is to prove that they haven’t insulted you, and you’ll be right there with that apology, lickety-split. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-about-tea-partiers/557036/40 "2010-10-14T05:51:43Z")
Thing is, there are number of tea party loons running for office who are saavy enough not to say everything that passes through their head, at least when they are in front of a microphone. Rand Paul set up a weird ophthalmologist trade group, because IIRC the idea that younger physicians would have to take continuing education while older physicians would not got his panties in a bunch. But post-primary he’s been quieter about his opposition to regulating BP more, or his desire to gut funding to public schools in favor of home schooling. Ron Johnson, who may be the next Senator from Wisconsin, was a big opponent of the [Wisconsin Child Victims Act](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/29/ron-johnson-wi-senate-can_n_743910.html). The act eliminated the statue of limitations for civil injury caused by an adult’s sexual contact with anybody under the age of 18. What scared Johnson is that the law could apply to organizations and companies as well as individuals – he thought there would be economic havoc. This is an odd position to take an absolutist position on, given that “[as of 1997 28 states had adopted an extension of the time limitation based on “discovery” of child sexual abuse or its effects](http://www.darkness2light.org/KnowAbout/articles_extensions_statutes.asp).” So where is the “economic havoc” that Ron Johnson fears? Now I can see proposing modifying language, but it seems to me that this is exactly the sort of legal structure that the Catholic Church et al should be subject to. The Republican Party has become a coalition of cranks, crackpots, nuts, loons and their funders. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-about-tea-partiers/557036.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-about-tea-partiers/557036.md?page=3)