# Lies Walt Disney Told Me

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 28, 2007, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356 "2007-10-28T18:30:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Labdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/439d5e/32.png) [@Labdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labdad)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/21 "2007-10-29T15:20:12Z")

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Hands only have three fingers. And there’s quite an industry manufacturing three-fingered gloves.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/22 "2007-10-29T15:46:46Z")

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[QUOTE=RealityChuck]  
Scorpions can square dance.  
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Well, they can. Sort of ;). It’s called a _pas de deux_ and is part of the courtship display. That one is actually true.

On the other hand one Disney “nature” film showed something like the “dance of the coral snake.” It was actually a coral snake on some sand in a studio under a lamp going into heat convulsions.

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/23 "2007-10-29T15:50:34Z")

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Captain Hook and Mr. Smee don’t talk like ‘pirates’.  
Donald Duck has anger issues. Pooh has eating issues.

So people who don’t wear pants have emotional problems.

Well, maybe he’s right about that.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/24 "2007-10-29T16:03:31Z")

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Yeah, Smee sounds more like a white rabbit than a pirate. And Hook sounds like an darling father.

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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/25 "2007-10-29T17:19:22Z")

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[QUOTE=garygnu]  
Yeah, Smee sounds more like a white rabbit than a pirate.  
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Actually, I thought he sounded more like a stone-faced basset hound.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/26 "2007-10-29T17:23:31Z")

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No, no, no! Smee sounds like a Park Ranger. Much more than that Hanna-Barbera “Ranger Smith” does.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/27 "2007-10-29T18:56:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Mr Bus Guy]  
Mice can talk.  
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So can Chipmunks. And they are very polite.

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**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/28 "2007-10-29T19:19:17Z")

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[QUOTE=BubbaDog]  
So can Chipmunks. And they are very polite.  
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Wrong chipmunks.

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**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/29 "2007-10-29T19:27:32Z")

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[QUOTE=Eutychus]  
Wrong chipmunks.  
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Wrong Species the Polite ones were Goofy Gophers… Thaaank you!

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**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/30 "2007-10-29T19:48:20Z")

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[QUOTE=kingpengvin]  
Wrong Species the Polite ones were Goofy Gophers… Thaaank you!  
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Wait a minute. Chip and Dale weren’t chipmunks?

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/31 "2007-10-29T19:51:24Z")

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[QUOTE=saoirse]  
Wait a minute. Chip and Dale weren’t chipmunks?  
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Chip and Dale were chipmunks. Their character personality would be considered “rambunctious.” The Goofy Gophers, whose character personality would be considered “polite,” appeared in Warner Bros. cartoons.

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/32 "2007-10-29T20:05:53Z")

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I, for one, was heartbroken and traumatized to find out that mermaids don’t actually exist.

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**Author:** ![Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Man_With_a_Cat)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/33 "2007-10-29T20:15:26Z")

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[QUOTE=Kythereia]  
I, for one, was heartbroken and traumatized to find out that mermaids don’t actually exist.  
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HUH?

Whatdyamean "don’t exist’???

:eek:

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/34 "2007-10-29T20:15:38Z")

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[QUOTE=kaylasdad99]  
Hercules’s mother was Hera.  
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And the implication that he and Megara lived happily every after. I kept wanting to yell, “No! Meg! Stay away from him!” but it kept going with the inevitablilty of, well, a Greek tragedy.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/35 "2007-10-29T20:16:13Z")

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The Goofy Gophers, I feel I must insistently point out though apologetically for my presumptuousness and I beg your forgiveness, were [Mac and Tosh.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goofy_Gophers)  
Thenk you.

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**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/36 "2007-10-29T20:39:58Z")

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[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]  
The Goofy Gophers, I feel I must insistently point out though apologetically for my presumptuousness and I beg your forgiveness, were [Mac and Tosh.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goofy_Gophers)  
Thenk you.  
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Oh no no, thenk _you._

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**Author:** ![DirkGntly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DirkGntly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DirkGntly)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/37 "2007-10-29T21:06:28Z")

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Actually, the point of H. C. Andersen’s _The Little Mermaid_ was based in the morality of the day: your parents and elders are wiser than you are and know what’s best for you, and if you are rebellious and don’t pay attention to them, it will end in tragedy.

Disney’s version basically says just the opposite: it’s okay to disobey your parents because they are overbearing and don’t understand you, and everything will come out okay, even if you do.

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**Author:** ![Greg\_Charles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Greg\_Charles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greg_Charles)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/38 "2007-10-29T21:28:30Z")

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Any sufficiently urgent situation must be resolved by children (if not animals). Adults at best will blithely deny that any problems exist and at worst will actively thwart the efforts of the children to save the world.

Actually, I can think of many Disney counter-examples to this idea, but this is a cool thread and I wanted to participate.

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**Author:** ![Greg\_Charles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Greg\_Charles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greg_Charles)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/39 "2007-10-29T21:35:36Z")

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[QUOTE=DirkGntly]  
Actually, the point of H. C. Andersen’s _The Little Mermaid_ was based in the morality of the day: your parents and elders are wiser than you are and know what’s best for you, and if you are rebellious and don’t pay attention to them, it will end in tragedy.

Disney’s version basically says just the opposite: it’s okay to disobey your parents because they are overbearing and don’t understand you, and everything will come out okay, even if you do.  
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Well, that’s a bit unfair. Actually, the message of TLM is that parents are fallible. They can be overbearing, but they are only being that way to protect you from very real dangers that exist. You ignore your parents edicts at your own peril.

However, I agree there is also the idea that parents will imprison you, and it takes willful disobedience for you to break free.

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**Author:** ![ArrMatey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrmatey/32/3522_2.png) [@ArrMatey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArrMatey)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/40 "2007-10-30T00:33:22Z")

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[QUOTE=GuanoLad]  
The “Arr, Matey” accent is from Cornwall, UK.  
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_looks around_

I have an accent?

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