# Lies Walt Disney Told Me **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 28, 2007, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356 "2007-10-28T18:30:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/41 "2007-10-30T00:40:52Z")
[QUOTE=Walloon] I’m talking about Stevenson’s novel. Where does he say that? [/QUOTE] Robert Newton says it in the film, at the service after they jettisoned a guy. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn1767](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Shawn1767](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shawn1767)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/42 "2007-10-30T01:19:07Z")
I imagine the lemming legend, that they commit suicide, would be like saying the “Every year, the crabs on Christmas Island throw themselves under cars and trains in a mass suicide.” Which is actually only incidental to their migration. ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/43 "2007-10-30T01:24:54Z")
I learned from a Disney cartoon that Robert the Bruce was inspired to “try, try again” by a dancing, singing spider wearing a little kilt. (Which is ridiculous; they didn’t wear kilts in the early 1300s.) ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/44 "2007-10-30T03:18:46Z")
Strategic aerial bombardment is all we need to do to defeat Nazi Germany. ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/45 "2007-10-30T03:33:27Z")
[QUOTE=guizot] During WWII, Walt told the country that all Japanese had buck teeth. I don’t think that was true. [/QUOTE] But what about _Breakfast at Tiffany’s_? :dubious: I always thought the message of The Little Mermaid was that human passions are a bad thing. Something like The Red Shoes. Girls give in to human passions and end up turning into sea foam or getting their feet chopped off. Anderson was so depressing. Sometimes I just want to go back in time and give him a hug. ---
**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/46 "2007-10-30T03:47:15Z")
[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee] But what about _Breakfast at Tiffany’s_? :dubious: [/QUOTE] I think I remember that film. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/47 "2007-10-30T04:17:18Z")
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] The Goofy Gophers, I feel I must insistently point out though apologetically for my presumptuousness and I beg your forgiveness, were [Mac and Tosh.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goofy_Gophers) Thenk you. [/QUOTE] Well, **that’s** not very PC!! :mad: ::: looks innocent :: ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/48 "2007-10-30T04:21:34Z")
Did you like it? Did you at least _kinda_ like it? ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/49 "2007-10-30T05:31:06Z")
[QUOTE=Krokodil] –Pirates talk in an “Arr, matey!” patois. [/QUOTE] I went on SCUBA trip to an island off Honduras, and the English-speakers sounded exactly like pirates. ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/50 "2007-10-30T05:44:43Z")
[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee] Anderson was so depressing. Sometimes I just want to go back in time and give him a hug. [/QUOTE] Or maybe some Zoloft. ---
**Author:** ![enigm4tic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@enigm4tic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enigm4tic)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/51 "2007-10-30T08:12:04Z")
[QUOTE=kaylasdad99] Did you like it? Did you at least _kinda_ like it? [/QUOTE] that’s one thing we’ve got.. or is it? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Greywolf73](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d9b06d/32.png) [@Greywolf73](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greywolf73)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/52 "2007-10-30T13:06:01Z")
Walt Disney taught me that animals (other than humans) keep other animals as pets. The Mickey/Pluto dynamic always broke my brain when I thought about it too much. ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/53 "2007-10-30T13:45:48Z")
[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee] I always thought the message of The Little Mermaid was that human passions are a bad thing. Something like The Red Shoes. Girls give in to human passions and end up turning into sea foam or getting their feet chopped off. Anderson was so depressing. Sometimes I just want to go back in time and give him a hug. [/QUOTE] The Little Matchstick Girl didn’t give in to any passions, though. Andersen just really liked the idea of dead girls. An old girlfriend of mine told me that, when she was little, she used to go outside on winter evenings with a box of bluetips and play “Little Matchstick Girl.” Nowadays, that would get you trip to a child psychologist. I think nowadays is better, in that regard. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/54 "2007-10-30T13:53:43Z")
> [@](#): > > Quote: > Originally Posted by HazelNutCoffee > I always thought the message of The Little Mermaid was that human passions are a bad thing. Something like The Red Shoes. Girls give in to human passions and end up turning into sea foam or getting their feet chopped off. Anderson was so depressing. Sometimes I just want to go back in time and give him a hug. > > The Little Matchstick Girl didn’t give in to any passions, though. Andersen just really liked the idea of dead girls. > > An old girlfriend of mine told me that, when she was little, she used to go outside on winter evenings with a box of bluetips and play “Little Matchstick Girl.” Nowadays, that would get you trip to a child psychologist. I think nowadays is better, in that regard. And what was the point of that “snatched from the jaws of victory” sad ending to “The Streadfast Tin Soldier”? Anderson _loved_ melancholy. The World is a rotten place, but at least we have overflowing sentimentality. He could’ve made a point about obeying your patrents without the over-the-top misery of The Little Mermaid, forced to walk on knife blades, he Prince stolen unfairly out from under her, but he wanted to have her turn to sea foam and romp with the angels. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/55 "2007-10-30T13:54:27Z")
[QUOTE=saoirse] An old girlfriend of mine told me that, when she was little, she used to go outside on winter evenings with a box of bluetips and play “Little Matchstick Girl.” Nowadays, that would get you trip to a child psychologist. I think nowadays is better, in that regard. [/QUOTE] Me too. I mean, I used to play “Little Matchstick Girl” too. Anderson might be depressing, but he sure understood the tortured drama queen inside little girls! ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2007, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/56 "2007-10-31T00:41:57Z")
[QUOTE=Krokodil] –Pirates talk in an “Arr, matey!” patois. [/QUOTE] Interestingly, if you hop on a plane down to Honduras’ Isla de Bahia, you will find that the native English speakers have the exact same accent, although you don’t hear “Arr, matey”. ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2007, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/57 "2007-10-31T03:17:56Z")
[QUOTE=saoirse] The Little Matchstick Girl didn’t give in to any passions, though. Andersen just really liked the idea of dead girls. [/QUOTE] No, she didn’t, but he doesn’t have to have the same message for every story. I agree about the dead girls, though. I think he was just a bit emo. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2007, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/58 "2007-10-31T05:48:50Z")
[QUOTE=guizot] During WWII, Walt told the country that all Japanese had buck teeth. I don’t think that was true. [/QUOTE] Got a cite? I have seen a Bugs Bunny cartoon with the standard stereotypical WWII characture, but very little seen of the Japanese in the Disney propaganda of the period (although Disneyy was one of the first to be on the anti-Hitler train). Of course this was a standard stereotypical portrayal of the whole period, but got anything to show that Disney invented it? :dubious: You know, you watch pretty much any “nature” show of that period, and it’s likely to be full of crap, Disney or anyone. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2007, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/59 "2007-10-31T11:51:11Z")
When bees are angry, they will climb to a great altitude, test their stinger for springiness, and go into a stinger-first dive aimed for their target’s posterior. Everyone who falls from a great height has the same cry on the way down. The nose disappears when you view a face from the front (see [Pocahontas.](http://content.answers.com/main/content/img/amg/games/drg000/g048/g04806ij36i.jpg) Princesses have unique shoe sizes and always have the smallest feet in the kingdom. ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2007, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356/60 "2007-10-31T13:21:01Z")
Seems like all girls are fiesty, have a dead mother, and are raised by a well-meaning but doddering father. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lies-walt-disney-told-me/424356.md?page=4)