Life in 1915 vs. today: What are the differences?

I was in Peace Corps on a very remote island in Micronesia. the culture was easily pre-1915. I lived there for two years and since then I have had a number of my former students and now their little brothers and sisters come and live with me and my wife here in the States.

They adapt incredibly quickly as I would assume would your time traveler. They have no trouble getting used to such things as indoor plumbing, electricity, running water, air conditioning, television, microwaves, computers and the like. All things they did not have in Micronesia.

The things that they tend to be surprised at that we don’t do that I would be willing to be bet your time traveler would be surprised at too is the lack of “family time.” You know, those things that people do as a family unit or in the case of the modern family don’t do as a family unit.

I believe I had a great deal more trouble giving up my modern comforts when I went there than they did adapting to them. Some of the kids (now pretty much adults) bear this out by saying it was a bit harder to return to the old ways than they had anticipated.

TV

She can always come over to my house and watch Mary Pickford and Theda Bara movies on video, and borrow my 1915-era J. Peterman skirts. And I have lots of Elinor Glyn and Booth Tarkington novels she can borrow, and cassettes of the Waldorf-Astoria Dance Band she can listen to . . . Come to think of it,may I go back to 1915 while she visits 2001?

One thing that may shock her at first that no one has yet mentioned.

Money.

Back in 1915, a hundred dollars was a fortune. You could buy a full meal with what we now consider pocket change.

That first trip to the store should shock her to no end just from the prices alone.
Does anyone out there know the exchange rate between the 1915 dollar and the 2001 dollar?

The amount of leisure time we have at our disposal would, no doubt, astound her.

Someone else said it first, but I can’t help but think that she’d really notice a difference in the smell of everyday life. Not only do we bathe more frequently, but our clothes are probably much cleaner. Additionally, I imagine there were still quite a few horses around in metropolitan areas in 1915 and where there are horses, there’s horse poop. Imagine if you will a hot, humid August day in greater downtown [insert your city here] - now add to that the smell of about a ton of horse poop.

There are many excellent responses, but I’ll add a couple that I haven’t seen yet: architecture and design.

Coming from an era when “ornate” described many important buildings, what would the woman think of the steel-and-glass skyscrapers of today? Not only are they much taller than the buildings she would have known, but they are also very plain in comparison–certainly, there are few of the carvings and decorations that are on old buildings.

Beyond that, what impression would today’s architecture impart to her? What might she think, for example, of banking if she was to see today’s light, airy, and tall bank towers? Yesterday’s banks liked to give the impression of solidity and permanence and wealth, so they build very elaborate, very solid, and very grand buildings. (I’m thinking specifically of the Commerce Court North building in Toronto with its high-ceilinged banking hall and stone carvings; and the old ornately-carved Bank of Montreal branch at Yonge and Front in Toronto, now the Hockey Hall of Fame. But there are many others all over the world much like those.)

As far as design goes, what would she make of today’s newspapers, with their colorful photos and graphics? I don’t think there weren’t many of either in the newspapers of 1915. The “look” of the newspapers and other printed media might shock her also–so many typefaces, and so many different ways to use them. Advertisements especially would be much different, relying as so many do on graphic images, while from what I’ve seen of ads in the early part of the 20th century, words did much of the work.

More and more, I’m noticing that the situation wrt tobacco in the early 21st century is parallel to that of alcohol in the early 20th. The scathing public service announcements which practically criminalize the tobacco companies are as stident, if not more so, than the anti-liquor propaganda of the 1900’s. Evem the dragon, sometimes used to represent Big Tobacco in these contexts, has his parallel in “King Alcohol”, a fat liquor bottle with arms, legs, face, and a crown, which was used in anti-liquor propaganda to represent
Demon Rum. It looks to me like we’re headed for tobacco prohibition in the U.S., unless we learn from our past. But do we ever do that? I think not…

Hey, you abducted someone from the turn of the century, not a cave-person. They aren’t going to drop to their knees and start praying to Jar Jar Binks. Besides, they were familiar with the basic concepts of movie projection, animation and science fiction (Jules Verne and H.G. Wells were both around in 1915).

Not really, in spite of all our advanced technology, we work as much or more than they did back in the day.

Not so much the attitude. People have been drinking a lot for centuries. (Remember the Romans?) I think if you brought her to a dance club that played a lot of techno and had a lot of kids running around on X, there would be some culture shock.

I think showing her any modern weapons would freak her out. She would probably have the same reaction to an army tank that we would to an Imperial AT-AT walking down our block (pretty cool, as long as we happened to be citizens of the empire, pretty terrifying otherwise). And imagine seeing helicoptor(military or civilian) hovering overhead like a giant wasp for the first time.

Of course, like anything else, the second time you see it, it’s not as exciting. I mean, how long would it take for you to get bored of seeing flying cars?

Oh yes. Here in the year 2001, it’s considered rude to refuse sex. Also, our person from the past would be amazed by the concept of free love and sex without consequences (ok, I know that was more of a 60s/70s thing, but what she doesn’t know won’t hurt her :wink: )

Yeah, about as long as it takes to teach a 16 year old. Or to teach me to drive in England.

Hey, she’ll shave them now or have her ass booted back to 1915!

She better not touch the remote.

Not just that. You would have to teach her about credit cards, ATMs, E-Z pass tolls (they had regular tollboths back then).

If someone snatched one of us and put us in some megagigantacity out of Blade Runner, Judge Dredd, or the 5th Element, I don’t think we’d freak out too much (especially if we had a guide and didn’t have to work).

What would probably happen is our subject would spend hours sitting on her ass watching TV and DVD’s, eating Twinkies and other modern food marvels. Think Fry from Futurama.

Depending on where she lived, the availability of a water closet might impress her greatly. My grandmother was born in 1910, and remembers when her family got hers: she was four, and had to change bedrooms because hers became the bathroom. In the same year her father bought their first car, a Buick.

In McClusky, North Dakota, those two facts alone meant they were “rich townfolks.”

She’d be flabbergasted at the telephone. Telephones were monstrously expensive, inconvenient devils in 1915, and most families wouldn’t have seen much use for them since they’d regularly see everyone they wanted to talk to anyway. The idea that I could speak with my godmother in San Francisco for a mere 7c a minute would be stunning. (And, as has been noted, that 7c might be a quarter-penny in her money.)

Oh, and it’s not twice as many countries - more like 8 times as many. Africa alone would account for almost 60, of which only Ethiopia and Liberia were truly independent in 1915. Even Europe has gained a couple of dozen countries, with the crumbling of the Austrian, Ottoman, and now Russian empires. The Carribbean would count for another thirty or so, as would Asia.

She might be less shocked with our popular culture than we think. Lots of vulgarity existed in 1915 - it just was kept better hidden, and “nice girls” emphatically didn’t.

The speed and accuracy of modern news would amaze her as well. When the Lusitania sank, it took many days before a precise accounting of the survivors could be conveyed to this country.

One thing that might sadden her is the loss of skills by many - fewer and fewer people can cook, or sew, or carve wood, or sing, or play musical instruments, or do all of the little things people used to do for themselves but which now belong to specialists, whether they be McDonalds or Madonna.

I suspect she’d be disappointed in the behavior of many children.

Probably a 1915 dollar was about like $20 today, depending on what it was you were buying.

Even if you could prepare her for her trip by giving her an adequate amount of 2001 money, she’d still be shocked by the pauperization of coined money (at least in the U.S.). No more taking out a coin purse to pay for a day’s groceries, she’d have to learn to fish for bills for even the smallest purchase.

The disappearance of real silver (both money and household objects) from daily life.

For more on this see my thread on this subject here.

Which of those things can Madonna do?

The more interesting question is, Which of those things can McDonalds do? But I digress.

See, this is just the thing - the standard is no longer one of genuine quality, it’s Is it better than I can do? And since very often the questioner can’t sing - play the piano - cook - at all, we end up with Madonna, John Tesh and McDonalds (oh my!).

Absolutely, positively, my most favorite historical novel of all time. It’s a good read and anyone posting to this thread would surely enjoy it, too.

I think the answer partly depends on where you take Miss 1915 from and where you bring her to. A city person brought to the city is going to be a lot more familiar than a city person brought to the modern suburbs or a rural person brought to a modern city. For example, the city or town dweller wouldn’t be impressed by a modern bathroom while a rural dweller probably still would be.

Apropos of nothing, walking from the train station to my office the other day I contemplated just this question (anthough not specifically 1915).

“Because by 1915 we had aquired the concept of progress, and she would be expecting 2001 to be full of strange technological wonders. That would make it much easier to adapt than for someone who expects the future to be like the past.”

That was my basic thought. The 1915 city dweller probably wouldn’t be shocked by city traffic, because they had lots of traffic and they had automobiles, they just didn’t have lots of automobile traffic. :slight_smile: With wireless telegraph already well in place back then, plus the ETERNAL competition of news outlets to be first, I don’t think instant news wouldn’t have been such a shocker either. Instant moving pictures of news, maybe, but not instant news itself.

“She’d be flabbergasted at the telephone. Telephones were monstrously expensive, inconvenient devils in 1915, and most
families wouldn’t have seen much use for them since they’d regularly see everyone they wanted to talk to anyway.”

I don’t think so. This is another urban/rural thing. IIRC, by 1915, the Bell system had already instituted its famous 5 cents a day phone charge that caused millions in cities and larger towns to subscribe. Long distance was expensive and slow, but local calls were not even charged individually back then, since the paperwork of doing a slip for each call was prohibitive. The traffic was so great that there were already experimental dial exchanges by 1915, and regular dialing in big cities like New York and Chicago came less than a decade later. A phone by 1915 would probably have been considered like a cellphone or fax now – a business person HAD to have one, and the average middle class person considered it a VERY useful convenience even if not a true necessity.

“…the crowds. Most of us now live in cities; there just weren’t six billion people in the world then.”

I think that crowds would be about THE LAST thing that would surprise Miss 1915, at least if she were a city dweller brought to the city. If anything, considering suburban growth since then, urban crowds were probably bigger back then. Lower Manhattan before the subways moved people out to Queens and the Bronx was the most densely populated area of Earth EVER. Denser than the densest third-world slum today or the densest high-rise neighborhoods of upper Manhattan today. Or a more mundane example:, if you were middle class and went (non-food) shopping, you pretty much HAD to go downtown on public transportation to the big department stores. Millions of people still do that in many cities, of course, but millions of others drive and use suburban malls.

“This is often advertising, of course, and it jingles and glitters and pervades our city world in a way that it just didn’t in 1915. Packaging and billboards, for instance.”

I don’t know about how colorful advertising was back then, but it was pretty much as pervasive as it is now. Looking at pictures from then, subway and elevated stations were filled with ads, omnibuses were covered in advertising placards just as motor buses are now, and buildings along busy streets in cities positively dripped with signs. Newspapers lived off advertising, not sales, revenue as much in 1915 as today – hence the penny newspaper, which didn’t cover the cost of gathering and printing the news but upped circulation so that advertisers were willing to pay rates that DID pay the bills.

My Dad died this year. Age 80.

Almost all the things that are being talked about happened in his lifetime.

He wasn’t surprised by most of what has happened and was able to keep up with technology pretty well considering he didn’t graduate from high school.

1915 seems like a long time ago. I completely changed my mind about what I was going to say when I realized that it all has happened in a lifetime.

You probably would just have a backwards acting girl on your hands.

Another thing that might suprise her would be the disposeable nature of most everything we have today.
Not so much the “they don’t make them the way they used to”
sort of thing but rather the “if it’s broken throw it out and buy a new one rather than fix or repair it.”
I suspect that our time traveler would haave been used to the idea of, for example, mending torn clothing.
Now she would see people discarding “perfectly good” clothing because it is not the latest fasion.
And how about a relatively expensive item like an automobile?
A new one every five years.

I would guess that she would be struck by how wasteful all that would seem.

I was thinking about this as I walked through midtown Manhattan on the way to the train after work last night. I think the things that would really hit Miss 1915 over the head are:

• Clothes. She would be stunned to see everyone half-dressed in unstructured rags that a homeless person would not be caught wearing in 1915. Arms, legs, tummies all hanging out. She might be amazed at how clean the clothes are, but horrified at how skimpy and shoddily-made they are.

• Oppressive architecture. Look at old photos of New York and you can see SKY. There were tall buildings in 1915, but not as many, not so closely packed and not so blank-faced. The canyons of big cities would loom over her and cut out the cityscape.

• Air. I actually think it would be cleaner now—we do have more cars, but we also have stricter clean-air standards now. Fewer horses, slaughterhouses, coal-burning stoves, outdoor markets.

She’d catch on quick to such mod-cons as TV, modern movies, the Internet, etc. Now, if you’re working all this into a time-travel book, will we at least get a mention in the acknowledgements?

Well, yes and no. Certainly with regard to newspapers, the color would surprise her. I work at a daily newspaper, and as recently as 10 years ago, a full color photo meant shooting a slide, then taking it to a bureau which would blow it up and produce films of the cyan, magenta, yellow and black separations needed to reproduce the photo. Oh, and it cost the paper something like $150, so we would tend to have maybe one a year at Christmas or if perhaps a local high school won the state championship. With developing computer technology, and the ability to send create color separations digitaly, it’s a very rare day when we don’t have color photos and graphics on the front page,

But our 1915 lady would not be totally surprised by color. Inexpensive 4-color printing dates back to the 1880s in the form of “trade cards,” in roughly postcard size and printed on cardstock. They would feature a four color illustration from a national brand (Coats & Clark thread, Mrs. Winslow’s Soothing Syrup) with often a space for a local store to imprint their name and address. Sometimes the back would have text describing the product or its attributes in wonderful inflated language. The cards would be handed out at local stores, and kids would collect them in albums. Crafty national advertisers would print whole series of related pictures (stories from the bible, costumes of many lands, etc.) encouraging kids to persuade their parents to visit the store many times to “collect the whole set.”

Exactly.

I think all you oh-so-clever people are forgetting one small thing.

In 1915, everything was in *black and white!

Plastic. Our time traveller would be used to celluloid being used in billiard balls and film, and may have even seen a few things made out of Bakelite. She may have heard of Cellophane. She’d probably have seen Rayon.

Nylon didn’t happen until 1920. Nylons didn’t happen until 1939. Polyethylene was discovered in 1933, and began being produced in large quantities in 1938.

In short, take a look around you. Do a quick estimate of what’s made of plastic. She’s going to be amazed at the shapes, colors, durability, and cleaning ease of almost everything she touches. Just the amount of plastic we use in the kitchen, everything from bottles to Tupperware to Saran Wrap to Teflon is going to take some explaining.

To add my uniquely Tucsonan perspecitve, air conditioning would also be astonishing. Summer meant sweltering in most areas of the States, and having indoor areas habitable (along with the corresponding increases in population in areas she may consider to be barely habitable) would be amazing.