# 'Life is pain, Princess' - or, yes, I've seen The Princess Bride

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 15, 2005, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/life-is-pain-princess-or-yes-ive-seen-the-princess-bride/299430 "2005-04-15T03:33:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![roger\_thornhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@roger\_thornhill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roger_thornhill)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2005, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/life-is-pain-princess-or-yes-ive-seen-the-princess-bride/299430/41 "2005-04-16T02:05:31Z")

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> [@Jenaroph](#):
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> Ahem.
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> It’s “Life is pain, HIGHNESS.”  
> Carry on.

Thanks for the correction, **Jenners**.

But, isn’t it wonderful to reach that stage of life at the Dope (the third, perhaps fourth stage) when you don’t bother to Google every time you quote a line from a movie? I’m luxuriating in this stage at the moment before I graduate to the higher stages.

And, don’t you just know it, some of the most famous movie quotes never actually happened. I should know. My alter ego in _She Did Him Wrong_ (I’m not gonna Google that either, although it doesn’t sound quite right) was given a rather racy invite by big Mae, but NOT the invite everyone (apart from a hard core of anoraks, who, incidentally, would never get an invite from the pneumatic one becau they’re so nerdy) remembers.

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**Author:** ![Cheez\_Whia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d26b3c/32.png) [@Cheez\_Whia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheez_Whia)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2005, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/life-is-pain-princess-or-yes-ive-seen-the-princess-bride/299430/42 "2005-04-16T02:39:04Z")

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> [@TellMeI'mNotCrazy](#):
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> Nah, that’d just be pedantic 😛

Or, perhaps, didactic.

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**Author:** ![roger\_thornhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@roger\_thornhill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roger_thornhill)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2005, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/life-is-pain-princess-or-yes-ive-seen-the-princess-bride/299430/43 "2005-04-16T03:12:46Z")

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Indeed. It’s didactic when I do it; pedantic when everyone else does.

You see, they never understand the tone, or the context, or the illocutionary force. Not to mention the irony.

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**Author:** ![TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tellmei_mnotcrazy/32/3419_2.png) [@TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TellMeI_mNotCrazy)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2005, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/life-is-pain-princess-or-yes-ive-seen-the-princess-bride/299430/44 "2005-04-16T03:14:06Z")

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If I was ever going to change my user name, I think I’d have to go with Didactic Pedant.

Or Princess Buttercup.

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**Author:** ![roger\_thornhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@roger\_thornhill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roger_thornhill)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2005, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/life-is-pain-princess-or-yes-ive-seen-the-princess-bride/299430/45 "2005-04-16T03:27:36Z")

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> [@TellMeI'mNotCrazy](#):
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> If I was ever going to change my user name, I think I’d have to go with Didactic Pedant.
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> Or Princess Buttercup.

But then you’d be really crazy. And no one would tell you.

Is that want you want? Really want? To live in denial the rest of your life? To spend the rest of your virtual existence in Schiavoland, having self-interested groupings using you as a punchbag, and lawyers and politicians falling over themsleves to shake your limpid hand? And all the time you able to feel the blows as they rain down, and to hear the platitudes of Hillary and Michael Moore as they drip off their honeyed tongue via their balmed lips, and yet unable to lift so much as a finger or raise an eyebrow to tell them to go and feel their own pain.

Being mostly dead is not all that it’s cracked up to be.

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**Author:** ![NoCoolUserName](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5fc32e/32.png) [@NoCoolUserName](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NoCoolUserName)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2005, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/life-is-pain-princess-or-yes-ive-seen-the-princess-bride/299430/46 "2005-04-16T03:35:19Z")

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I cannot believe it. I understand that the OP requested that we not bring up a sting of quotes. I see that others have quoted. There was a time, on the 'net, when one could not post without referencing the following line from TPB, which, I must agree, is one of the most compelling lines ever committed to film (and totally meaningless without you have seen the movie).

> [@](#):
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> Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father: prepare to die.

I have (small) tears in the corners of my eyes just thinking about it.

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**Author:** ![Large\_Marge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/50afbb/32.png) [@Large\_Marge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Large_Marge)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2005, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/life-is-pain-princess-or-yes-ive-seen-the-princess-bride/299430/47 "2005-04-16T04:58:55Z")

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> [@Sauron](#):
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> Okay, quick question about this movie … there seems to be a very slight shifting of frames toward the end, as though they stopped the camera in mid-scene, re-set the actor in position, and then continued filming the scene. It’s when Wesley and Inigo are talking in the window. Wesley tells Inigo he’d make a wonderful Dread Pirate Roberts, then falls out. Inigo seems to consider the proposition. It’s while he’s pondering for a moment, just before he jumps, that he seems to shift position in mid-frame just a bit.
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> Has anyone else noticed this?

No, but I’ll look for it next time I watch the film.

I **did** notice when [spoiler]during the sword fight above the Cliffs of Insanity, Westley, while stepping backward and up the steps, faltered.

Just before he falls, they cut to another another shot. [/spoiler]

Has anyone else noticed **that**?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2005, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/life-is-pain-princess-or-yes-ive-seen-the-princess-bride/299430/48 "2005-04-17T20:33:01Z")

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If I quoted my favorite lines from the movie (against the OP’s request), I’d end up reciting the whole damn thing. So I’ll just say that I loved it.

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**Author:** ![roger\_thornhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@roger\_thornhill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roger_thornhill)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2005, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/life-is-pain-princess-or-yes-ive-seen-the-princess-bride/299430/49 "2005-04-18T01:47:39Z")

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> [@NoCoolUserName](#):
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> was a time, on the 'net, when one could not post without referencing the following line from TPB, which, I must agree, is one of the most compelling lines ever committed to film (and totally meaningless without you have seen the movie):
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> “Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father: prepare to die.”
> 
> I have (small) tears in the corners of my eyes just thinking about it.

I was in the happy position of watching the flick for the first time without having cursorily (right form?) read anything more than a) a review by Ebert (which I’d forgotten) and b) one or two threads on the Dope about favourite films, in which The Princess Bride figured prominently.

Thus, when the Patinkin character said this for the first time, I duly noted it as an ironic intertextual type of reference to avenging movies and Don Quixote-style romantic Iberian heroes. Second time round it functioned to draw a smile from me; after that, it became rather boring. It had, even for a first-time viewer like me, too much of the “this is designed to become a catchphrase” about it.

Having said that, I though Patinkin (who I hardly know since I don’t watch ER - or was he in the other one, and Clooney in ER?) was excellent. But even I could have made a decent fist of that part! Sufficiently over the top without becoming self-indulgent. Something all the characters managed. Thank goodness they didn’t cast Williams or Carrey!

It was as an ensemble piece that the film really worked. The parts were good; the sum of the parts even better. Can’t wait to watch it with my 8 yr-old, so long as I can drag her away from re-runs of _Ab Fab_ and _Sex and the City_. Girls will be girls, I suppose.

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