# Life Without Parole Plus 1,000 Years

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/life-without-parole-plus-1-000-years/664596>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [July 26, 2013, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/life-without-parole-plus-1-000-years/664596 "2013-07-26T15:50:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![md2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/73ab20/32.png) [@md2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/md2000)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/life-without-parole-plus-1-000-years/664596/21 "2013-07-26T19:10:43Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Should we also mandate that all prisoners be cremated immediately after death occurs just in case our first aid skills advance to the point that we can revive someone who has been dead for a few hours?

> [@Darth\_Panda](#):
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> If some form of resurrection becomes possible and we still have the death penalty on the books, it will certainly need to be addressed.

Yeah, if the guy only got, say, 5 life sentences, after the 5th resurrection he’d be a free man. With the life plus 1000 years, he’ll still be in jail for a while after being revived. People would be denmanding the death penalty, to be carried out immediately, so in a few days they’d be free again.

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/life-without-parole-plus-1-000-years/664596/22 "2013-07-26T19:15:31Z")

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> [@Darth\_Panda](#):
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> If some form of resurrection becomes possible and we still have the death penalty on the books, it will certainly need to be addressed.

> [@Richard Pryor](#):
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> How do you do _triple life_? That means if he die and comes back, _he_ gotta go to the penitentiary.
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> “No, fuck kindergarten. Get yo’ ass on in the penitentiary. You know what you did last time.”

😃

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**Author:** ![DrCube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/life-without-parole-plus-1-000-years/664596/23 "2013-07-26T19:45:00Z")

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> [@Malacandra](#):
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> Good job he didn’t try to fight it or they’d _really_ have come down on him.

Yeah, does anybody know what made him plead guilty? Did he get some favorable assurances from the prosecutor? Will he avoid solitary or something? What’s in it for him?

I don’t really follow this stuff, but last I heard he had plead not guilty so I’m curious what made him change his mind.

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**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/life-without-parole-plus-1-000-years/664596/24 "2013-07-26T19:54:37Z")

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I wonder if he would have gotten less time if he had simply murdered the three girls.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/life-without-parole-plus-1-000-years/664596/25 "2013-07-26T22:13:28Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Should we also mandate that all prisoners be cremated immediately after death occurs just in case our first aid skills advance to the point that we can revive someone who has been dead for a few hours?

You think that hasn’t been tried? [Jerry Rosenberg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Rosenberg) once had a serious heart attack and was revived after his heart stopped. After he recovered, he sued to be released on the argument that he had completed his life sentence.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/life-without-parole-plus-1-000-years/664596/26 "2013-07-26T23:15:25Z")

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So basically, we have the rest of this guy’s life to find the nesting place of the all-powerful Sarlaac.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/life-without-parole-plus-1-000-years/664596/27 "2013-07-26T23:55:03Z")

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> [@DrCube](#):
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> Yeah, does anybody know what made him plead guilty? Did he get some favorable assurances from the prosecutor? Will he avoid solitary or something? What’s in it for him?
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> I don’t really follow this stuff, but last I heard he had plead not guilty so I’m curious what made him change his mind.

I believe it allowed him to avoid the chance of being sentenced to death.

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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/life-without-parole-plus-1-000-years/664596/28 "2013-07-27T02:07:31Z")

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> [@zoid](#):
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> QFT

Quantum Field Theory? Seriously,what’s it mean?

(Since this is GQ, I assume it’s not another, better known abbreviation that happens to be missing a terminal ‘t’)

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**Author:** ![DataX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@DataX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DataX)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/life-without-parole-plus-1-000-years/664596/29 "2013-07-27T02:45:33Z")

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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> I believe it allowed him to avoid the chance of being sentenced to death.

Yes - this. There may have been other considerations that he took into account - like perhaps HE didn’t want to hear the accounts be retold in front of his community - especially since he is going to lose anyway.

I think the 1,000 thing stems from all the different counts. If you are a judge - you usually don’t get the chance to throw the book at someone like this. You might as well sentence them to the max for each count. It also seems to be someone psychotic ally consoling to victims.

It kind of says -

“we hear your trauma - and he is being punished for each and everything he did to you”

rather than…

“Hey - sorry you spent 10 years getting raped, but if you don’t mind - we are just going to give him life without parole to make this go faster. Either way he isn’t getting out.”

Sometimes judges/prosecutors will actually add on stuff like destruction of property or theft - for taking/breaking a woman’s panties. They want to give him everything they got - even if it doesn’t mean anything extra time wise.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/life-without-parole-plus-1-000-years/664596/30 "2013-07-27T03:57:05Z")

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> [@KarlGauss](#):
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> Quantum Field Theory? Seriously,what’s it mean?
> 
> (Since this is GQ, I assume it’s not another, better known abbreviation that happens to be missing a terminal ‘t’)

Quoted for truth. I.e., “damn straight, skippy”.

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**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/life-without-parole-plus-1-000-years/664596/31 "2013-07-27T05:28:46Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Should we also mandate that all prisoners be cremated immediately after death occurs just in case our first aid skills advance to the point that we can revive someone who has been dead for a few hours?

The law is supposed to be blind so were he convicted of all the charges then it would be likely that the eventual sentence would reach astronomical proportions. As such, you have to go through the motions and sentence him appropriately.

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**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/life-without-parole-plus-1-000-years/664596/32 "2013-07-27T05:33:15Z")

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> [@Darth\_Panda](#):
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> I don’t see any absolute bar on the increasing of human life expectancy over the next few decades through medical advances. It may be very unlikely that people live to be 170 100 years from now, but it isn’t impossible (to the best of my knowledge).

However, as absurd as it might seem, handing out a 1000 years sentence makes it appear unjust to me. Basically, 1000 years is too long a sentence for his crimes. Something that wouldn’t have crossed my mind if it had been a life sentence.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/life-without-parole-plus-1-000-years/664596/33 "2013-07-27T06:03:22Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> I think part of the idea is that a prisoner has to serve a certain portion of his sentence before becoming eligible for parole. The 1000 years is in case they change the sentence from LWOP to just a life sentence. A life sentence does not mean he will die in prison, necessarily, so they tack on the 1,000 years so he will not get parole even if they commute the LWOP sentence.

He could still get parole posthumously after, say, 750 years or so. And you wouldn’t want _that_ to happen!

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**Author:** ![JBDivmstr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b4bc9f/32.png) [@JBDivmstr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JBDivmstr)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/life-without-parole-plus-1-000-years/664596/34 "2013-07-27T07:05:07Z")

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> [@zoid](#):
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> QFT

> [@KarlGauss](#):
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> Quantum Field Theory? Seriously,what’s it mean?
> 
> (Since this is GQ, I assume it’s not another, better known abbreviation that happens to be missing a terminal ‘t’)

My WAG is ‘Quite Fucking True’. 😉

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**Author:** ![williambaskerville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f14d63/32.png) [@williambaskerville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/williambaskerville)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/life-without-parole-plus-1-000-years/664596/35 "2013-07-27T07:34:51Z")

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> [@JBDivmstr](#):
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> My WAG is ‘Quite Fucking True’. 😉

I understand it means “Quoted For Truth”.

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**Author:** ![nylaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/74df32/32.png) [@nylaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nylaw)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/life-without-parole-plus-1-000-years/664596/36 "2013-07-27T08:08:53Z")

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I never thought it to mean anything other than quite fucking true.

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**Author:** ![AaronX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7bcc69/32.png) [@AaronX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AaronX)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/life-without-parole-plus-1-000-years/664596/37 "2013-07-27T08:45:50Z")

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> [@nylaw](#):
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> I never thought it to mean anything other than quite fucking true.

QFT

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**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/life-without-parole-plus-1-000-years/664596/38 "2013-07-27T08:56:17Z")

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> [@chacoguy](#):
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> I suspect that his remaining life will be nasty, brutish and short.

People who’ve never been anywhere near a prison and have watched way too much TV fondly imagine that there’s a kind of honour among prisoners and that people who commit terrible crimes will be targeted by the rest of the prison population.

As explained to me by a relative that did time in a number of prisons: Jail is full of guys who like to hurt other people. It’s full of guys who think violence towards women is A-OK. It’s is full of rapists. And so on.

Unless you raped/beat/murdered someone’s sister/mother/wife/etc, prisoners do not give a fuck how many chicks you raped, beat, or murdered.

Prisoners have open season on child molesters, informers, and ex cops. If you’re not in one of those categories, and you don’t piss off anyone dangerous, you won’t get any special treatment.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/life-without-parole-plus-1-000-years/664596/39 "2013-07-27T09:08:04Z")

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Uh, Shakester, he raped children. (Minors, anyway.) And, arguably, killed them.

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**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/life-without-parole-plus-1-000-years/664596/40 "2013-07-27T09:21:48Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Uh, Shakester, he raped children. (Minors, anyway.) And, arguably, killed them.

The law might define teenage girls as “children”, it’s probably a bit more open to debate to your average jail inmate.

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