# Like it or Not: There are some places where little kids just DONT belong! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 25, 2003, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/like-it-or-not-there-are-some-places-where-little-kids-just-dont-belong/150900 "2003-01-25T20:12:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/like-it-or-not-there-are-some-places-where-little-kids-just-dont-belong/150900/21 "2003-01-26T02:46:38Z")
Welcome to Buttcrack Burgers! Two in your party? Will that be smoking or non-smoking? Screaming children or non-screaming children? Rabbit-felching or non-rabbit-felching? Flatulence or non-flatulence? Right this way, please! ---
**Author:** ![Daikona](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8baadc/32.png) [@Daikona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daikona)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/like-it-or-not-there-are-some-places-where-little-kids-just-dont-belong/150900/22 "2003-01-26T03:05:07Z")
How about a college dorm for a place they don’t belong? Our residence director or whatever he is and his wife just had a baby. A newborn baby, living in an apartment in a college dorm. Who alternatly wakes up that end of the building with her middle of the night wailing, and is sleeping at 2 in the afternoon, resulting in _normal speaking voices_ in that end of the hall getting a stern warning. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/like-it-or-not-there-are-some-places-where-little-kids-just-dont-belong/150900/23 "2003-01-26T14:51:17Z")
Hell, sounds like my first year on dorm anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Carnage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/max_carnage/32/12775_2.png) [@Max\_Carnage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Carnage)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/like-it-or-not-there-are-some-places-where-little-kids-just-dont-belong/150900/24 "2003-01-26T15:28:39Z")
They also don’t beling in the row in front of me at the movie Darkness Falls I saw last night. or in any row in that theatre. It’s a damned horror movie about the Tooth Fairy! I hope your kids lose a tooth tonight. Then see if they want that quarter. ---
**Author:** ![ASD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c68b51/32.png) [@ASD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASD)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/like-it-or-not-there-are-some-places-where-little-kids-just-dont-belong/150900/25 "2003-01-26T15:34:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ganglian \* > \*\*Kids do not belong at the gym! NO they dont! > They are at risk in the weight room, you are NOT supervising them, nor are you supervising them in the pool. > \*\* My gym has a daycare. Keeps the kids happy and means the parents don’t have to hire a babysitter. We never have random kids running around. ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/like-it-or-not-there-are-some-places-where-little-kids-just-dont-belong/150900/26 "2003-01-26T15:51:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ASD \* > \*\*My gym has a daycare. Keeps the kids happy and means the parents don’t have to hire a babysitter. We never have random kids running around. \*\* So does ours, however it also has swim lessons and karate lessons for young ones, hence the brats in the locker room. There are moms who are considerate enough to keep their children under control and reasonably quiet. But there are also the ones that just relax in the sauna and hot tub area and let their little monsters run free after swim lessons and whatnot. The gym rule is" “no boys past their third birthday are allowed in the women’s locker room”. But there are several that I KNOW are past that age. (\*and yes, I call management if I see them). If the moms would keep them away from the rest of the ladies in the gym (the locker room is designed with lots of little locker “alcoves”), but nooooo they have to have the little peeping toms right out in the main shower/hot tub/steam room area. It’s very disconcerting to have some curious little boy staring at your naked body while trying to relax iin the hot tub or sauna! And that can’t be that great a thing for a parent to allow a small boy to see either!! (though I’m sure many men will disagree with me). ---
**Author:** ![Scarlett67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scarlett67/32/7387_2.png) [@Scarlett67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scarlett67)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/like-it-or-not-there-are-some-places-where-little-kids-just-dont-belong/150900/27 "2003-01-26T17:16:16Z")
[The copy shop](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=158879) ---
**Author:** ![ganglian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7feea3/32.png) [@ganglian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganglian)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/like-it-or-not-there-are-some-places-where-little-kids-just-dont-belong/150900/28 "2003-01-26T18:17:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by NightRabbit \* > \*\*Oh poor baby, if you can’t deal with a 7-year old selling Girl Scout cookies you really need to lighten up. > \*\* To clarify; it was the lil’ urchin at the door who bugged me, it was the big barrell shaped redneck woman with her arms folded behind the urchin, trying to intimidate the sale at my front door that offended me. The big ol’ sign out front is kinda design to keep her ilk out of the building. Does that make me a snob, oh well… > [@](#): > > - > > Other than that, I agree. There was a big stink made by a dining hall worker recently because one of the student magazines on his table had art that wasn’t appropriate for his young children. > > Guess what, dickwad? A college dining hall is not a place for toddlers! And campus magazines shouldn’t have to pass a G-rated litmus test! Give me a break! \*\* ---
**Author:** ![ganglian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7feea3/32.png) [@ganglian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganglian)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/like-it-or-not-there-are-some-places-where-little-kids-just-dont-belong/150900/29 "2003-01-26T18:25:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CanvasShoes \* > \*\*OH!!! THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!! > And LOL. > > I have been thinking about starting THIS thread myself!!! I have two kids of my own, one full grown and married off, and one who just turned 11. And no I’m not the worlds most perfect parent… > > However, I believe there are many, many places where kids don’t belong. Along _with_ that, I’d like to add (is this a hijack??,if so I apologize) the places it IS okay to take kids, well, SOME of you parents need to learn to PARENT!!!/B] With regard to my general problem with kids in general, you, my dear, just hit the nail on the head. Nine times out of ten, it aint the kids, they will be what they are, it’s often the example of the parents being reflected. > [@](#): > > \*It is NOT okay to drag a kid through KMart for half an hour while he continuously screams at the top of his screechy little lungs “Moooo hoooomm eeeee HHEEEE, I WAaaaa HHHHAAanT It !!!, NOOOO NOOOO get it!!! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah” Over and Over and Over again!!! > > Trust me on THIS one, the first time he does this and you take him Straight HOME to daddy and then, don’t stop there, the next time you take off to Kmart and he wants to go? Guess what, you say “nope sorry, remember how you acted last time”? Once or twice of him getting the “daddy treatment” and/or staying home instead of getting to go… > > Oh GRRRR and the GYM? Ladies? What makes you think we want your snot-nosed little boys (and do NOT tell me that little giant is under three years old) staring at our privates while we get dressed? Or the offkey screaming of stupid day care songs in the shower and steam room area? The vamanoosing at top speed around the locker room, getting in the way and ricocheting off of us as we dress!!! ARrrrrggggghhh!!! > > And decent restaurants? Or plays? Give us a BREAK!!! Oh and movies rated PG13 or higher? > /B] I can tell you of the time that I complained about the rednecks who keep bringing their kids of innappropriate gender into the locker rooms as well, age is a factor, but ten years is too old… and Restaurants, Chuckie Cheese, okay, but get the kids the hell of the Sushi bar, they likely arent gonna eat Japanese food anyway. > [@](#): > > \*Tell me, WHY are you bringing toddlers and impressionable elementary aged children to movies like “The Devil’s Advocate” and “What Lies Beneath”? > > (ps, on the What Lies Beneath example this lady and her sister had two little girls about 8 and 10 with them. The movie had some serious sex scenes, partial nudity, adult content, etc. > > I mean COME ON!!! On the bright side they were only a few seats away from us, and at regular intervals my mom, sis and I whispered LOUDLY things like "OH, that’s criminal, bringing young girls to THIS??!!!, and, during the sex scenes, “Oh MY GOD, can you BELIEVE They are letting those little girls WATCH this, maybe we should get the manager???” long story short, the women left). > > Thank you for this rant, it’s LONG been a pet peeve of mine. \*\* It’s nice to encounter a parent who “gets it.” ---
**Author:** ![ganglian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7feea3/32.png) [@ganglian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganglian)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/like-it-or-not-there-are-some-places-where-little-kids-just-dont-belong/150900/30 "2003-01-26T18:26:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by superbee \* > \*\*Kids don’t belong in bars? Fuck you, you rabbit felching piece of smegma. Who do you think gets me my drinks when I’m too drunk to stand up? Huh? And when it comes time to drive home, who do you think works the pedals and the wheel? > > Jeez, dude…use your head. \*\* I note your location, you were born in the Ozarks and moved to the big city late, didnt you, Gomer? ---
**Author:** ![ganglian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7feea3/32.png) [@ganglian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganglian)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/like-it-or-not-there-are-some-places-where-little-kids-just-dont-belong/150900/31 "2003-01-26T18:30:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Daikona \* > \*\*How about a college dorm for a place they don’t belong? Our residence director or whatever he is and his wife just had a baby. A newborn baby, living in an apartment in a college dorm. Who alternatly wakes up that end of the building with her middle of the night wailing, and is sleeping at 2 in the afternoon, resulting in _normal speaking voices_ in that end of the hall getting a stern warning. \*\* I offer you my college memoirs. The time we got a new roommate who basically lived on campus to avoid child support somehow. One sunday afternoon, he has his 3 year old over (Dumb in and of itself) and then tells us he’s going out from smokes and will we watch the kid. He was gone for three hours, we ended up calling his ex wife to come get junior. She was embarrased and apologized which was cool, but we got some insight to the divorce… ---
**Author:** ![Truth\_Seeker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5fc32e/32.png) [@Truth\_Seeker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truth_Seeker)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/like-it-or-not-there-are-some-places-where-little-kids-just-dont-belong/150900/32 "2003-01-26T21:06:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ganglian \* > \*\*I note your location, you were born in the Ozarks and moved to the big city late, didnt you, Gomer? \*\* Oh my, looks like somebody got wooshed! I think I can top all of you. How about an eight-month-old baby . . . at the symphony. I saw this with my own eyes, not to mention heard it with my own ears. I was flabergasted. The kid only made a couple of brief outbursts during the performance but that was way more than enough. First, it visibly threw off the performers. Second, everyone in the auditorium felt like they were sitting on a ticking time bomb. It was awful. I simply cannot imagine what made the parents think that this could possibly be OK or, even more incomprehenisble, what possessed the management to allow it. I have recuring nightmares that the parents sucessfully argued that they shouldn’t have to purchase an extra ticket. I’m usually quite tolerant of small children in “adult” situations like nice restaurants, especially if the parents are making a good-faith effort to teach them proper behaviour. We were all kids once and had to be properly socialized and we ought to help pass it along. However, parents who don’t even bother to try or bring their kids to completely inappropriate places are another thing entirely. Let’s be quite clear on this, though there are some meritorious exceptions, most parents do this kind of thing because they are inconsiderate, self-centered pigs. It’s a sort of tragedy-of-the-commons applied to child care. Their reasoning runs. “Yes, I know little Mortimer is an uncontrollable terror. He drive’s me nuts. However, it doesn’t drive _me_ any more nuts if he drives _you_ nuts too, so I just bring him along and do whatever I want to do. See, I’m going to have to listen to my baby wail anyway, right? So in between wails, I’d rather be listening to the symphony than not. Yes, of course bringing my baby to the symphony bothers everyone else. What’s your point?” ---
**Author:** ![EVO95](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@EVO95](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EVO95)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/like-it-or-not-there-are-some-places-where-little-kids-just-dont-belong/150900/33 "2003-01-26T21:38:45Z")
**ganglian** , the _jerkstore_ called, and… Flurk it. ---
**Author:** ![MrPeabody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7cd45c/32.png) [@MrPeabody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrPeabody)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/like-it-or-not-there-are-some-places-where-little-kids-just-dont-belong/150900/34 "2003-01-26T21:43:58Z")
Sorry dads, but Hooters is not the place to bring your children when it is your weekend. ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/like-it-or-not-there-are-some-places-where-little-kids-just-dont-belong/150900/35 "2003-01-26T22:21:44Z")
Aaron is not quite six months old, and there are lots of places we’ll take him, and lots of places we won’t. We’ve taken him to the sports club, because he really digs basketball, and they have a nice big projection screen TV that showed basketball. And it’s not a bar bar; it’s a restaurant that serves alcohol. He behaved just fine, with no screaming, crying or anything. He just hung out with us and watched the game. However, we won’t take him to a movie or live performance. That’s what Gramma is for – to babysit so we can go out and do things. It’s not that Aaron isn’t a well-behaved child, it’s that he’s not old enough to be able to control his behavior yet. Next month, soccerbaby and I are going to New York to see a play with her chorus. Aaron gets to spend time with his grandparents. It’s not that Aaron shouldn’t see the play, because he likes watching that on television. It’s that I can’t be sure how he’s going to behave. The orchestra may be too loud, or the lights may scare him, or it may go over too long and become hungry or cranky and be disruptive as a result. As far as I’m concerned, we’ve got a lot of time to teach him how to behave at a movie or play or whatever. And he will learn how to behave appropriately in these places. Robin ---
**Author:** ![istara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e79b87/32.png) [@istara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/istara)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/like-it-or-not-there-are-some-places-where-little-kids-just-dont-belong/150900/36 "2003-01-26T22:29:28Z")
**MsRobyn** - you sound like a really cool parent! ---
**Author:** ![Thylacine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thylacine/32/1143_2.png) [@Thylacine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thylacine)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2003, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/like-it-or-not-there-are-some-places-where-little-kids-just-dont-belong/150900/37 "2003-01-26T23:22:14Z")
How about my house? I do not have children, few of my friends have kids. Babies in containers are fine. Older kids unable to tell when to leave the cat alone are a problem. If your kid disappears for a minute and comes back without an eyeball don’t blame me. Kid proof houses look very different to mine. I have sharp corners, non locked cupboards with poisons in them and heavy books all around. My knives are within reach in the kitchen, my cat plays rough. There are a thousand ways for your kid to die in my house, did it never occur to you that people without sprogs may not live in a way suitable for them? Let’s meet up in a local park or something please. I like kids, I like you but my house is not child proof and you do not come here often enough for me to make it so. ---
**Author:** ![Phouchg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/41988e/32.png) [@Phouchg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phouchg)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2003, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/like-it-or-not-there-are-some-places-where-little-kids-just-dont-belong/150900/38 "2003-01-27T01:55:18Z")
God Bless [The Bellagio](http://www.bellagiolasvegas.com/) from their site: You must be 18 years of age or a registered hotel guest to enter Bellagio. The following exceptions apply to minors who are at least 5 years of age and accompanied by an adult at least 18 years of age: Restaurant reservations for Aqua, Circo, Jasmine, Le Cirque, Picasso, Shintaro or Prime Attending a wedding in our Wedding Chapels Attending a convention function Attending a performance of “O” Gallery of Fine Art Children of hotel guests and non-hotel guests are allowed if accompanied by an adult. Non-hotel guests with children must have their tickets in hand prior to arriving to Bellagio. Visiting a Via Bellagio shop by appointment only Strollers are allowed for hotel guests only. AMEN!! Phouchg Lovable Rogue ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2003, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/like-it-or-not-there-are-some-places-where-little-kids-just-dont-belong/150900/39 "2003-01-27T02:05:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Thylacine \* > \*\*There are a thousand ways for your kid to die in my house, did it never occur to you that people without sprogs may not live in a way suitable for them? > \*\* Laughed out loud so hard it scared my dog! I guess I just have a sick sense of humor. (ps. sprog=rugrat, correct?). ---
**Author:** ![Thylacine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thylacine/32/1143_2.png) [@Thylacine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thylacine)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2003, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/like-it-or-not-there-are-some-places-where-little-kids-just-dont-belong/150900/40 "2003-01-27T02:14:49Z")
correct! from [The Macquarie Concise Dictionary](http://www.macquariedictionary.com.au/) > [@](#): > > **sprog** > > noun _Colloquial_ 1. a baby or young child. 2. a new recruit, as in an air force. [origin obscure] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/like-it-or-not-there-are-some-places-where-little-kids-just-dont-belong/150900.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/like-it-or-not-there-are-some-places-where-little-kids-just-dont-belong/150900.md?page=3)