# Li'l Donnie forgot his lifts **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 25, 2019, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lil-donnie-forgot-his-lifts/834512 "2019-05-25T20:02:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Poysyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Poysyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poysyn)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lil-donnie-forgot-his-lifts/834512/81 "2019-05-28T16:13:31Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > We know he has scotch tape…for his tie. > > I’ll admit I used a scotch tape hem on occasion in my younger, lazier days, but he has no excuse. > > Also, as someone clinging the short side of “average height” by my fingernails, I always have to hem pants. :mad: I ordered the wrong uniform length once when I needed them on the road. they were CRAZY too long, and I had no sewing kit or access to anything. So I stapled them. Worked as a temporary fix. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lil-donnie-forgot-his-lifts/834512/82 "2019-05-28T16:28:39Z")
The explanation for the ill-fitting suits seems to be that he doesn’t have them tailored to fit, but how do you explain the overly long ties? I think men’s neckties come in a standard length and it’s a matter of tying them and adjusting the length of the wide front part versus the narrow back part to get the right length. (And that’s all stuff I learned as a teenager, from my father.) So why are his ties so long? Did his father never teach him that stuff? ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lil-donnie-forgot-his-lifts/834512/83 "2019-05-28T16:30:36Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Nah, I think she’s just as evil and corrupt as all the rest. I pity her not-at-all. She chose this nest of feces to call home and she’s done nothing to improve her position in life. This. People are reluctant to bash her because she’s pretty. They can’t get past the surface. Same with Ivanka. To me it’s a whole 'nother layer of evil–they use their looks to get an underserved edge. I’m so over slagging on Trump, it’s a pig-wrestle anymore: you just get filthy and tired, and the pig likes it. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lil-donnie-forgot-his-lifts/834512/84 "2019-05-28T16:40:21Z")
> [@Fair\_Rarity](#): > > Not to be serious in this delightful thread, but it illustrates a huge problem very well. One of my aunts (who I assume voted for him, based on other horrid things she’s said and the fact that she’s batshit crazy) got miffed at me one day when I mentioned his lack of sartorial sense. 100% serious, she said to me “What’s wrong with how he dresses? I think he always looks nice.” I strongly suspect what she meant by this was: “What’s wrong with how he dresses? I think he always looks white.” ---
**Author:** ![Paintcharge](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paintcharge/32/7946_2.png) [@Paintcharge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paintcharge)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lil-donnie-forgot-his-lifts/834512/85 "2019-05-28T16:40:36Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > The explanation for the ill-fitting suits seems to be that he doesn’t have them tailored to fit, but how do you explain the overly long ties? I think men’s neckties come in a standard length and it’s a matter of tying them and adjusting the length of the wide front part versus the narrow back part to get the right length. (And that’s all stuff I learned as a teenager, from my father.) So why are his ties so long? Did his father never teach him that stuff? He has the rest of the material from John Constantine’s [ties.](https://deadline.com/2018/03/matt-ryan-promoted-dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-series-regular-season-4-renewal-john-constantine-1202345972/) Now if only Constantine would send Trump to hell… ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lil-donnie-forgot-his-lifts/834512/86 "2019-05-28T17:10:20Z")
It’s like the M_A_S\*H episode where Hawkeye and BJ kept changing Winchester’s pants to make him think he had lost of gained weight. Trump now thinks he’s The Incredible Shrinking Man. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lil-donnie-forgot-his-lifts/834512/87 "2019-05-28T17:38:49Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > The explanation for the ill-fitting suits seems to be that he doesn’t have them tailored to fit, but how do you explain the overly long ties? I think men’s neckties come in a standard length and it’s a matter of tying them and adjusting the length of the wide front part versus the narrow back part to get the right length. (And that’s all stuff I learned as a teenager, from my father.) So why are his ties so long? Did his father never teach him that stuff? My father never taught me how to tie my necktie, and I doubt that Poppa Trump ever loved Young Donald enough to teach him, either. But I figured out on my own how to do it properly, because I am not A Moron. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lil-donnie-forgot-his-lifts/834512/88 "2019-05-28T17:40:04Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I strongly suspect what she meant by this was: > > “What’s wrong with how he dresses? I think he always looks white.” “What’s wrong with how he dresses? He’s rich. He must know better than you do.” ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lil-donnie-forgot-his-lifts/834512/89 "2019-05-28T18:03:34Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > Does the president not have any duck tape? No safety pins? No stapler? Aren’t the bottom of his pants going to get all raggedy? It would have to be tape; nobody trusts him with sharp objects. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lil-donnie-forgot-his-lifts/834512/90 "2019-05-28T18:43:01Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > The explanation for the ill-fitting suits seems to be that he doesn’t have them tailored to fit, but how do you explain the overly long ties? I think men’s neckties come in a standard length and it’s a matter of tying them and adjusting the length of the wide front part versus the narrow back part to get the right length. (And that’s all stuff I learned as a teenager, from my father.) So why are his ties so long? Did his father never teach him that stuff? [Are Donald Trump’s Ties So Long Because He Thinks They Make Him Look “Thinner”?](https://www.wmagazine.com/story/donald-trump-long-ties) > [@](#): > > It wasn’t until 2016, though, that he offered Christie the advice that turned out to also hold the secret to his tie length: at one point while campaigning for the presidency, Trump apparently paused to exhort Christie to follow suit in taking up wearing longer ties, as they would make him appear thinner. And actually? That statement seems to hold true—if only because it certainly takes one’s eyes off the rest of the wearer. Warning: There’s a comparison photo of Trump in a suit and in golf clothes. And, Trump claims to be 6’3 and only 230 lbs. Coincidentally, this is just under the BMI threshold for being obese. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lil-donnie-forgot-his-lifts/834512/91 "2019-05-28T20:58:54Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > I’d really like to see the US military send taller, and taller men and women to greet him at these functions. Staff in the White House should start wearing lifts too. See just how far he would go with his heightening. It’s FUBAR, might as well have some fun. Pray no one tells him about [chopines](https://www.thevintagenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Some-of-the-chopines-were-made-up-to-20-inches.-Photo-Credit.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lil-donnie-forgot-his-lifts/834512/92 "2019-05-28T22:17:38Z")
Oh no, pray that they DO. I almost never watch video of Trump, but I’d certainly watch him trying to teeter around on those things, thinking that it makes him look tall and handsome. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lil-donnie-forgot-his-lifts/834512/93 "2019-05-28T22:53:18Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > The explanation for the ill-fitting suits seems to be that he doesn’t have them tailored to fit, but how do you explain the overly long ties? must be clip-ons ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lil-donnie-forgot-his-lifts/834512/94 "2019-05-28T23:12:28Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > [And, Trump claims to be 6’3 and only 230 lbs. Coincidentally, this is just under the BMI threshold for being obese. [Here’s a photo](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/17/a-tall-tale-accuracy-of-trumps-medical-report-and-new-height-questioned) of Trump with Alex Rodriguez, who really is 6’3". Alex is hunched over a little, but he could still conveniently use the top of Trump’s head as a drink stand. From the way that thing on top of Trump’s head has mutated over the years, that pic was probably taken quite some years ago. Trump has probably further shrunk since then, as we all do with age. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lil-donnie-forgot-his-lifts/834512/95 "2019-05-29T01:02:05Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Please stop. > > I can’t get the picture out of my head, where you can see he’s obviously wearing tighty-whities under his white golf pants. I do _not_ want to see him naked! Sorry, it was [tennis shorts](https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--1YBn69re--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/swq1nocy6161qzotqx8i.jpg). I still wish I hadn’t seen it. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lil-donnie-forgot-his-lifts/834512/96 "2019-05-29T12:50:33Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Pray no one tells him about [chopines](https://www.thevintagenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Some-of-the-chopines-were-made-up-to-20-inches.-Photo-Credit.jpg). Well, he could take a cue from [De Niro](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5201001/Robert-Niro-wears-massive-shoe-lifts-films-NYC.html) or [Disco Stu](https://hips.hearstapps.com/esq.h-cdn.co/assets/cm/15/06/54d4312a06143_-_discostu-full.png?resize=480:*). ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lil-donnie-forgot-his-lifts/834512/97 "2019-05-29T13:06:22Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Nice loose pants make the diaper less obvious. This. I don’t have a link offhand but there are shots where he’s obviously wearing one. There’s a characteristic bulkiness. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lil-donnie-forgot-his-lifts/834512/98 "2019-05-29T13:35:19Z")
> [@Fair\_Rarity](#): > > For the sake of family harmony, it was good that I was too flabbergasted to respond. I have rarely been so utterly dumbfounded. How could she not see the terrible hair, the orange skin with white raccoon eye patches, the knee-length taped ties, the suits that look like a kindergartner cut them out of felt and Elmer’s glued them together? How could she look at that complete mess of a physical specimen and say “Sure, that’s good.” I don’t know the lady, but a great many people just don’t know how clothes are supposed to fit. I harp about this once or twice a year so I guess I’m due; we, at least in North America, are the worst-dressed people in the modern history of Western civilization. A great many people exclusively, or almost exclusively, wear essentially disposable clothes, and many people almost never wear clothes that actually fit them correctly and have literally no knowledge as to how to select clothes that fit properly. That has NOT always been the case; when people couldn’t own as many clothes, they were more attentive to acquiring clothes that fit well and looked good. It is common for grown men and women, ones with otherwise functional lives and jobs and everything, to leave their houses and go about in public wearing things that within our lifetimes you would never have worn in public. I’m not talking about new styles, trends or fads; I mean stuff that isn’t a style at all. So I think it quite possible that a great many people don’t see that Trump’s suits don’t fit because they do not know how clothes fit. They just see a guy in a jacket and tie and think “that is a suit and suits are nice.” ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lil-donnie-forgot-his-lifts/834512/99 "2019-05-29T16:54:38Z")
True. And I’ve always loved the old **Punch** cartoon from the WWII home front: _Imperious Woman:_ “I’m from the National Reclamation Board! What do you do with your old clothes?” _Meek Little Man:_ “I fold them carefully, hang them over a chair, and put them on again in the morning.” ---
**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lil-donnie-forgot-his-lifts/834512/100 "2019-05-30T01:39:14Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > I don’t know the lady, but a great many people just don’t know how clothes are supposed to fit…[snip] > > So I think it quite possible that a great many people don’t see that Trump’s suits don’t fit because they do not know how clothes fit. They just see a guy in a jacket and tie and think “that is a suit and suits are nice.” Oh, she dresses fine. Not rich and fancy, but appropriate to her age and size (which is probably at most a medium, so she doesn’t wear like slinky teen clothes). I can’t remember her wearing anything that ever made me snicker, and alllll of her many siblings do. They can’t get together without one of them making me think “Time to see the eye doctor.” She’s blinded by loyalty. I wish I could just chalk it up to a difference of opinion or ignorance. And ok, I’ll grant you that **some** people don’t inherently know that baggy, long suits are bad, but I’m not budging on the taped ties. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lil-donnie-forgot-his-lifts/834512.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lil-donnie-forgot-his-lifts/834512.md?page=6)