# Limbaugh..my hunch was right. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 4, 2005, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-my-hunch-was-right/329512 "2005-11-04T18:10:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-my-hunch-was-right/329512/21 "2005-11-04T19:01:15Z")
> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#): > > Hmm. I believe I read it first in 1991 or 1992, when I worked at a leftist bookstore in Chapel Hill; it was in a zine devoted to mocking Rush Limbaugh. > > Daniel It’s been a few years, but I believe he said that he came up with it and sent it to Garry Trudeau, who ended up using it. I could be misremembering his claim, of course. I can’t, obviously, vouch for the ulitmate veracity of his story, but it would be a bit like suggesting that **elucidator** would lie about something like that. Only **Silas Sparkhammer** was always more unswervingly polite. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-my-hunch-was-right/329512/22 "2005-11-04T19:04:44Z")
My own little theory on Rash Limpballs is that the right-wing stuff is just an act, that he’s actually a closet liberal Democrat and he has a picture of Teddy Kennedy on his nightstand. At least I hope it’s true. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-my-hunch-was-right/329512/23 "2005-11-04T19:19:00Z")
> [@Hentor the Barbarian](#): > > Yeah, let’s nail him! He probably never had the “Look for the union label” song sung to him as an infant, either! Fucker. For Og’s sake, **Hentor** , calm down! I was asking for clarification on what I heard someone say about Clinton’s speech. I wasn’t claiming it was right or wrong, I just wanted someone to provide further info. Jeez…you’re going to hurt yourself with those knee jerks. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-my-hunch-was-right/329512/24 "2005-11-04T19:20:06Z")
> [@lno](#): > > Clinton turned 9 on August 19, 1955. As to whether Arkansas schools were integrated at the time, consider that in October 1957 the Arkansas governor, Orval Faubus, ordered the Arkansas National Guard to keep nine black students out of Central High School. President Eisenhower sent soldiers from the 101st Airborne and federalized the Arkansas National Guard in response. So help me out here…does that mean the young Clinton would have been riding segregated or desegrated buses at that time? ---
**Author:** ![whole\_bean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@whole\_bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whole_bean)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-my-hunch-was-right/329512/25 "2005-11-04T19:27:06Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > So help me out here…does that mean the young Clinton would have been riding segregated or desegrated buses at that time? segregated ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-my-hunch-was-right/329512/26 "2005-11-04T19:27:06Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > For Og’s sake, **Hentor** , calm down! I was asking for clarification on what I heard someone say about Clinton’s speech. I wasn’t claiming it was right or wrong, I just wanted someone to provide further info. > > Jeez…you’re going to hurt yourself with those knee jerks. I’m quite, calm, but I didn’t really mean to raise any hackles. My point was more that it seems like a trivial issue to try to catch someone out on. But to each his or her own. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-my-hunch-was-right/329512/27 "2005-11-04T19:28:53Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > So help me out here…does that mean the young Clinton would have been riding segregated or desegrated buses at that time? If he was talking about a _school_ bus, it likely would have been all-white, and it wouldn’t have mattered where he sat. If it was a _municipal_ bus, he might well have made the gesture he claims to have made. Or not. I guess one’s take on this depends on how one feels about politicians’ tendencies on the matter of truth and self-serving promotion, or on Clinton’s specific proclivities based on past history. My take is: who cares by this point? About Clinton’s noble childhood, or anything Rush might have to say. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-my-hunch-was-right/329512/28 "2005-11-04T19:29:24Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > And on preview, i see that **lno** beat me to the punch. [_cough_](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6761135&postcount=12) > [@ivylass](#): > > So help me out here…does that mean the young Clinton would have been riding segregated or desegrated buses at that time? As I said, Arkansas was most likely not ahead of the curve on matters of desegregation. I can’t find a specific date online as to when buses in Arkansas were desegregated, but SCOTUS didn’t issue its ruling on bus desegregation until 1956. I think it is safe to assume that buses in Arkansas were segregated in 1955 and that if Clinton rode buses in Arkansas in 1955 they were segregated buses. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-my-hunch-was-right/329512/29 "2005-11-04T19:42:06Z")
Gotcha…thanks for clearing that up! ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-my-hunch-was-right/329512/30 "2005-11-04T19:45:05Z")
From [the History of Jim Crow online](http://www.jimcrowhistory.org/): > [@](#): > > 1903: Streetcars [Statute] > Streetcar companies are to separate white and black passengers. Penalties: Passengers who refused to take their assigned seat will be charged with a misdemeanor and fined $25. Companies that fail to enforce the law will also be found guilty of a misdemeanor and fined $25. > > 1947: Public Accommodation [Statute] > A series of statutes were passed that made segregation at polling places, on motor carriers and railroad cars and within prisons mandatory. > > 1957: Public Carrier [Statute] > Required segregation on all public carriers. > > 1959: Public Carriers [Statute] > Required assignment of passengers to segregated seats on all intrastate buses. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-my-hunch-was-right/329512/31 "2005-11-04T19:47:26Z")
Here’s a quote I googled up, apparently from another speech Clinton gave at some point. > [@](#): > > When I was a kid growing up in segregated Arkansas, I rode the city bus to school. It cost a nickel. My friends and I liked to sit at the back of the bus. When the bus was crowded, it was pointed out to us that black folks were supposed to sit in the back of the bus. I didn’t know any better. Discrimination doesn’t come naturally; it has to be taught. [http://clinton3.nara.gov/Initiatives/OneAmerica/19971009-13216.html](http://clinton3.nara.gov/Initiatives/OneAmerica/19971009-13216.html) So apparently, he did ride a municipal bus that had black and white people on it. However, if you’ll notice, he says that he and his friends rode at the back of the bus because they “liked” it. But in the quote in question, he says that they rode in the front of the bus until Rosa Parks did her thing. So which is it, Bill? Huh? Front or back? Because you liked it or because you “strongly approved” of Rosa Parks? I could overlook the whole blow job thing, but this baldfaced deception… ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-my-hunch-was-right/329512/32 "2005-11-04T19:53:39Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > [_cough_](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6761135&postcount=12) > > I think it is safe to assume that buses in Arkansas were segregated in 1955 and that if Clinton rode buses in Arkansas in 1955 they were segregated buses. This is the best cite I can find. I remember Senator Dale Bumpers speaking about desegregating the schools in his tiny Arkansas town prior to 1956. I imagine that [1954](http://www.aetn.org/menandwomen/) would have been one of the earliest. We were kicked out of the “Cotton States League” for having to Black pro baseball players in 1953. Brown V. Board of Education was 1954. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-my-hunch-was-right/329512/33 "2005-11-04T20:01:12Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > he has a picture of Teddy Kennedy on his nightstand. Close enough, it’s a mirror. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-my-hunch-was-right/329512/34 "2005-11-04T20:33:10Z")
Of course Clinton rode in the back of the bus. Everyone _knows_ that’s where you score the good stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-my-hunch-was-right/329512/35 "2005-11-04T20:54:34Z")
> [@Pochacco](#): > > Good Lord, I moved to Chapel Hill in 1993! Were you still there then? I lived in Durham for almost all of 1993, but moved back to Chapel Hill in December 1993, living there until summer 1994. If you stoped by Perversions–er, Provisions, the foofy little bakery at University Mall, you may have seen me there; or at Internationalist Books; or geeking out with the local gamers/pagans/BBS crowds. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-my-hunch-was-right/329512/36 "2005-11-04T21:03:08Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > For Og’s sake, **Hentor** , calm down! I was asking for clarification on what I heard someone say about Clinton’s speech. I wasn’t claiming it was right or wrong, I just wanted someone to provide further info. > > Jeez…you’re going to hurt yourself with those knee jerks. **Ivy** , it’s your constant looking for something hinky in any statement made by Clinton that you sould worry about. You know, that whole don’t point out the mote in your neighbors eye when you have a plank in yours, sort of thing. This is something the former President said at a funeral. Maybe we could go listen to the story and let it go. ---
**Author:** ![Updike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@Updike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Updike)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-my-hunch-was-right/329512/37 "2005-11-04T22:03:58Z")
> [@Zebra](#): > > This is something the former President said at a funeral. Maybe we could go listen to the story and let it go. Even if he’s making shit up? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-my-hunch-was-right/329512/38 "2005-11-04T22:15:10Z")
> [@Updike](#): > > Even if he’s making shit up? Look. If you know from experience that beyond a doubt he’s making shit up, then saying something about it is appropriate. Otherwise, if what he’s saying is only important from a symbolic perspective, just LET IT GO. Trying to find falsehood in every one of his public utterances, digging for proof that maybe, possibly, it’s conceivable that something he said is not true in every jot and tittle–that’s just pathetic. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-my-hunch-was-right/329512/39 "2005-11-04T22:45:04Z")
> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#): > > Look. If you know from experience that beyond a doubt he’s making shit up, then saying something about it is appropriate. Otherwise, if what he’s saying is only important from a symbolic perspective, just LET IT GO. Trying to find falsehood in every one of his public utterances, digging for proof that maybe, possibly, it’s conceivable that something he said is not true in every jot and tittle–that’s just pathetic. > > Daniel Mission Accomplished. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/45deac/32.png) [@Evil\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_One)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2005, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-my-hunch-was-right/329512/40 "2005-11-04T22:51:27Z")
Clinton is full of more shit than a septic tank and was, as usual, in full pander mode. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-my-hunch-was-right/329512.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-my-hunch-was-right/329512.md?page=3)