# Limbaugh sez "Dems set Foley up!" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 3, 2006, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-sez-dems-set-foley-up/375158 "2006-10-03T20:59:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2006, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-sez-dems-set-foley-up/375158/101 "2006-10-05T03:34:59Z")
[QUOTE=Squink] [Longtime Republican was source of e-mails](http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Frontpage/100506/news2.html) [/QUOTE] From that description, it was Fordham, Foley’s former aide and, until his resignation (or firing…it’s still kind of up in the air which) yesterday, Tom Reynolds’ current aide. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2006, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-sez-dems-set-foley-up/375158/102 "2006-10-05T13:52:09Z")
[QUOTE=Terrifel] Now, there’s no need to malign weasels in such a fashion. Mustelids are actually quite useful creatures, which among other things help to control rodent populations. Whereas the modern Republican party would immediately embrace the financial support of rodent lobbyists, while accusing Democrats of gnawing their way into silos to steal seed corn. Therefore, a better descriptor would probably be an invasive, uncontrolled species with obviously negative long-term effects. Perhaps the “Chestnut Blight party” or the “Giant Marine Toad party.” The “Kudzu Vine party” might work; partly because, much like the current Republican leadership, at one time cultivating the plant seemed like a really good idea to certain people. Also because it has pretty much taken over Florida. [/QUOTE] 😃 How about a parasitic worm-the GOP is unevolved and all… And I love how it’s always the damned aides that fall on swords. Who’d be an aide? ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2006, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-sez-dems-set-foley-up/375158/103 "2006-10-05T13:59:01Z")
[QUOTE=Terrifel] The “Kudzu Vine party” might work; partly because, much like the current Republican leadership, at one time cultivating the plant seemed like a really good idea to certain people. Also because it has pretty much taken over Florida. [/QUOTE] Sorry, I really don’t see much Kudzu here, especially as compared to places like Georgia. Now we could use water hyacinths as a symbol. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2006, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-sez-dems-set-foley-up/375158/104 "2006-10-05T14:26:41Z")
[QUOTE=Terrifel] Therefore, a better descriptor would probably be an invasive, uncontrolled species with obviously negative long-term effects. Perhaps the “Chestnut Blight party” or the “Giant Marine Toad party.” [/QUOTE] The “Cute and Fluffy Australian Bunny Rabbit Party” approach will probably backfire. Zebra mussels just aren’t sexy enough. The invasion of the Pacific Northwest by Californians is too local. Keep the ideas coming, though. There’s got to be mileage here someplace. ---
**Author:** ![peri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/67e7ee/32.png) [@peri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peri)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2006, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-sez-dems-set-foley-up/375158/105 "2006-10-05T22:00:04Z")
The Africanized Honeybee Party (maybe too WASPish) The Necrotizing Fasciitis Party ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2006, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-sez-dems-set-foley-up/375158/106 "2006-10-05T22:03:06Z")
[QUOTE=peri] The Africanized Honeybee Party (maybe too WASPish) The Necrotizing Fasciitis Party [/QUOTE] No, no–the honeybee one is good. So is the Mexican Killer Bee Party. But my vote goes to the Nec Fasc party. Brilliant! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2006, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-sez-dems-set-foley-up/375158/107 "2006-10-05T22:10:40Z")
The way things are going, “Republican” might be just fine. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2006, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-sez-dems-set-foley-up/375158/108 "2006-10-05T22:27:58Z")
Newest twist: [Limbaugh blames pages for encouraging Foley.](http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/05/limbaugh-blames-pages/) :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![want2know](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/50afbb/32.png) [@want2know](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/want2know)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2006, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-sez-dems-set-foley-up/375158/109 "2006-10-08T01:19:16Z")
[QUOTE=rjung] Newest twist: [Limbaugh blames pages for encouraging Foley.](http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/05/limbaugh-blames-pages/) :rolleyes: [/QUOTE] Certainly puts a new spin on the old “Prince Albert in the can” prank, don’t it? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2006, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-sez-dems-set-foley-up/375158/110 "2006-10-08T02:32:59Z")
In message replies to that link above, posters say that the “page” who sent the IM messages says it was a prank. Where can I read about this? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2006, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-sez-dems-set-foley-up/375158/111 "2006-10-08T02:37:05Z")
[QUOTE=samclem] In message replies to that link above, posters say that the “page” who sent the IM messages says it was a prank. Where can I read about this? [/QUOTE] That claim appears to have originated with Drudge, it seems from this [MPSIMS](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=391052) thread. ---
**Author:** ![Caridwen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@Caridwen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caridwen)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2006, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-sez-dems-set-foley-up/375158/112 "2006-10-08T02:40:09Z")
It was on Drudge. > **[DrudgeReportArchives.com © 2023](http://www.drudgereportarchives.com/data/2006/10/06/20061006_211622_page.htm)** > > Matt Drudge is an Internet journalist and muckraker. Drudge's web site, Drudge Report (begun in 1994), consists primarily of links to stories about politics, entertainment, and various current events, and to many popular columnists, although Drudge... ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2006, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-sez-dems-set-foley-up/375158/113 "2006-10-08T02:43:51Z")
I haven’t found the link, but FWIW I have seen a quote from the page’s lawyer saying it was not a prank. ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2006, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-sez-dems-set-foley-up/375158/114 "2006-10-08T11:37:26Z")
Even if you were to believe the claim that the pages were playing a prank on Foley (and there’s no good reason to believe it, I think), notice what Limbaugh is admitting to. He’s admitting that, as a teenager, he committed a crime which, had he been caught, would at best have caused the police chief to haul him and his parents to the police station, where he would have been lectured and the parents would have been told they had to pay for the cost of transporting the refrigerator. And that’s at best. At worst, it would have gotten a teenager a juvenile record if his parents weren’t friends with the police chief. But Limbaugh considers this crime to be at the same level as one young child calling another names. So it’s O.K. that he committed a crime as a teenager that would have gotten other teenagers a juvenile record. It’s O.K. that he illegally obtained prescription drugs as an adult. It’s O.K. that he’s been divorced three times now, which would have caused other people to be labeled as “anti-family-values.” Do any rules apply to Limbaugh? ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2006, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-sez-dems-set-foley-up/375158/115 "2006-10-08T16:38:56Z")
[QUOTE=Wendell Wagner] Do any rules apply to Limbaugh? [/QUOTE] “Do as I say, not as I do.” ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2006, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-sez-dems-set-foley-up/375158/116 "2006-10-08T20:17:19Z")
Are there any fans of Rush Limbaugh on this board who can tell me how you can still consider him a defender of conservative values, now that it’s obvious that he thinks the rules don’t apply to him? Please, no snide, joking replies from people who dislike Limbaugh. If I wanted to hear a snide joke about Limbaugh, I can make one up myself. I just want to hear from anybody whatsoever who still thinks that Limbaugh is an honest defender of conservative values. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2006, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-sez-dems-set-foley-up/375158/117 "2006-10-08T21:37:52Z")
[QUOTE=Wendell Wagner] Please, no snide, joking replies… [/QUOTE] Limbaugh made the cover of [**Time** this week.](http://www.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,20061016,00.html) ---
**Author:** ![want2know](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/50afbb/32.png) [@want2know](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/want2know)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2006, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-sez-dems-set-foley-up/375158/118 "2006-10-09T18:34:08Z")
[QUOTE=Squink] Limbaugh made the cover of [**Time** this week.](http://www.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,20061016,00.html) [/QUOTE] That enough of an answer for you, **Wendell**? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2006, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-sez-dems-set-foley-up/375158/119 "2006-10-09T20:08:16Z")
[QUOTE=Wendell Wagner] I just want to hear from anybody whatsoever who still thinks that Limbaugh is an honest defender of conservative values. [/QUOTE] I don’t think you’ll find many of them in the BBQ Pit. Like Rush himself, his fans are good at dishing it out, but lousy at taking it. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2006, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-sez-dems-set-foley-up/375158/120 "2006-10-09T20:34:10Z")
[QUOTE=Wendell Wagner] Are there any fans of Rush Limbaugh on this board who can tell me how you can still consider him a defender of conservative values, now that it’s obvious that he thinks the rules don’t apply to him? [/QUOTE] I’ll try, even though I’m not that much of a fan of Limbaugh. I do think he has one of the better political talk-radio shows out there, and he’s more entertaining than most of them.. I don’t really understand your question, though. He is a defender of conservative values. The fact that he might not always practice them isn’t relevant. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-sez-dems-set-foley-up/375158.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/limbaugh-sez-dems-set-foley-up/375158.md?page=7)